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JustAsking said:
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Please, have as much fun as you want with this. I will personally chase off any lunatic fundamentalists who think they are Jesus' personally appointed honor guard.
Yes, I enjoy offending lunatic fundamentalists, but I don't enjoy offending people like Greek18.
 

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JustAsking said:
Yes, I enjoy offending lunatic fundamentalists, but I don't enjoy offending people like Greek18.

If Christ was unremarkable, how special is Greek18? He's not. He can leave whenever he's ready.

Greek18: Bounce, Homie. Or stay. You were free to change the address in your browser the moment you realized the question was offensive to you. If ther rest of us are enjoying it, go find a pot to piss in and leave our offensive parade alone.

Funny. Christ was unafraid of being offensive. And he was not easily offended. He and I would be best friends if I could muster some penitence for my active sex life. I try, but I'm just not sorry. I know y'all can relate.

He who is without sin...
 

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Bronxie said:
If Christ was unremarkable, how special is Greek18? He's not. He can leave whenever he's ready.

I meant Christ was unremarkable only in a worldly sense. But that is an important point, as you alluded to before. His becoming fully human and submitting to the natural processes of the world blesses those processes in a way no other act could have. Seen through this concept, morality about bodily functions takes on a whole different light.

But I dont see that Greek18 is upset out of excessive moralizing. I think he is sincerely offended. I have to yield to that, because although I can be a real wiseguy sometimes, I am not one to think my thoughts are the center of the universe. (I don't think you do either, Bronxie, I am just speaking for myself.)
 

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JustAsking said:
But I dont see that Greek18 is upset out of excessive moralizing. I think he is sincerely offended. I have to yield to that, because although I can be a real wiseguy sometimes, I am not one to think my thoughts are the center of the universe. (I don't think you do either, Bronxie, I am just speaking for myself.)
And yet: if beliefs are never challenged, questioned and explored, they stagnate and never develop. Exposure to the material on this thread may have been a first for Greek18 ... he is young, and from the fact he started 2 other threads argumentatively berating this one in his anger, clearly still has much maturing ahead of him (as do we all). Perhaps he will find a lesson or moral in this that extends beyond mere offence and gives him some greater insight.

...just as I once thought this thread might if it were allowed to develop along the lines of a rational debate on free speech or classical representations of Jesus with boyish, cherub-like genitalia, thus desexualizing him totally.

If we place limits on our ability to ask questions, then unfortunately, we also place limits on our ability to gain answers.
 

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I say Jesus was probably hung like a bull because

1) True humility is when you're humble even though you have something to brag about.

2) Resisting the temptation of sex is even more impressive when you could be getting laid left and right.

3) He had enough blood to wash away all our sins but he wasn't exceptionally tall or fat, so there had to be somewhere to store all that extra blood. :tongue:
 

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alex8 said:
...just as I once thought this thread might if it were allowed to develop along the lines of a rational debate on free speech or classical representations of Jesus with boyish, cherub-like genitalia, thus desexualizing him totally.
Ok, yes, a rational controversial discussion doesn't have to be irreverent. Tell me about this "classical representation" thought of yours. Do you think this is deliberate or just a reflection of classical representation in general? Are classical depictions of Jesus any more boyish than the statue of David? Do you think there is an extra agenda behind classically representing Jesus?
 

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JustAsking said:
Tell me about this "classical representation" thought of yours. Do you think this is deliberate or just a reflection of classical representation in general? Are classical depictions of Jesus any more boyish than the statue of David? Do you think there is an extra agenda behind classically representing Jesus?

I don't think these kinds of image are any more boyish than David, which is part of the interest they hold... since although they are used now (albeit most frequently with their genitalia veiled) to help promote a Western-friendly notion of a white, long-haired, non-turbanned Jesus ... I wonder precisely what the original intention of medieval Southern European artists may have been. Of course, to present a vision of Christ that they could relate to ethnically, but it seems more than that ... as though the very elements of those classical representations which have subsequently been taken to imply a "desexed" Jesus - such as his lean, bony frame and small genitalia ... may originally have been conceived in terms of rendering him an object almost of lust: the long-haired, lean lover with a penis that conformed to contemporary ideals of beauty (uncircumcised and small; connoting a certain sense of perceived 'purity' in form also). In this sense, many of the same questions abound as concern the Statue of David, including whether its supposed biblical connection was merely a means of getting more explicit images of male beauty past the (religion-led) censorship of the period. Since the Victorian era, of course, the veiling of Jesus's genitalia in most representations renders explicit the desire to make him appear unsexual and chaste: the virgin-based notion of 'purity'.
 

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I don't think Jesus was insanely huge or hung, but I do think he had some good meat. Probably a little above average. My friends and I were talking about classical art and, even though it is beautiful, most of us wished that the men had bigger cocks. I mean, it's depicitons of some of the most influential men in history and they have tiny peckers.

I remember at a church camp when I was younger, we had a real in-depth conversation about Jesus and masturbation. He probably had the temptation, but never gave into it. We wondered if Jesus ever got boners. Maybe not ones related to being stimulated sexually (cause that would be lust) but ones that just happen for no reason.
 

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JustAsking said:
Yes, I enjoy offending lunatic fundamentalists, but I don't enjoy offending people like Greek18.[/quote

After having read through all the comments on my statement I feel that I must respond to my fellow members.
First of all, we ARE all fellow members here on this board. I take that as meaning (even though English is not my mother tongue) that we are all members of the same organization. I then feel that whenever I logg on to this site that it is the same as attending a meeting of our organization. I belong to many organizations in my social life and never do we speak to each other in the demeanour and tone which I have received. ie...don't let the door hit you on your way out, and I want to fuck you sideways, and fuck you, and so many other negative comments. Is that how we should speak to each other at our meetings? Our logg ins? This site was not like this in the past. This is a new phenomena and I am not talking about the topic of Jesus' penis. I mean how we bash out at each other and NOT in jest, these were comments that people meant!
Now, Alex8, who after reading many of his comments in other threads as well, seems to play the role of wise philosopher, but he did have a point in saying that my new thread about our mothers and the thanksgiving turkey was in poor taste. There I stand corrected. However the comments by Spladle and Bronx and other were bashing! Is that how fellow members should respond to each other? Sure, mind you, let's get excited and irritated, ok greek18 angered many of you, but wasn't greek18 angered as well? Is it necessary to bash fellow members? Bronx told me to hit the road....ironic because she/he found me here when she/he came in Jan. 2006. Is it the goal of the new members to run off all the older ones with their demeanour?
Yes, I am offended by the Jesus thread and many of you were offended by my response, but don't I, as a member, have the right to express my opinion? Weren't many of you in your defense of freedom of speech defeating your purpose and premise by bashing out at me for freely expressing my right to speak? So, you disagree with me; members of the same organizations disagree constantly but they must do so with respect and dignity, honoring their fellow members companionship.
Alex8 mentioned that perhaps this incident will make me think things over being that I am young. Yes it has. It has made me wonder as to the current quality of this board, of this organization and many of its members. Why so much hostility for a fellow member?
Any comments? (and please do not pm me with threats and indecent comments like before)
Just voicing my opinion or should I say, just excercising my right to freedom of speech.
greek18
PS: Greece is a democracy, freedom of speech is in the constitution, someone questioned that I can't recall their name now, FYI...
 

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Jesus was average, and nowhere near superhung.

I also heard that he was only a faith/spiritual healer, and people have embelished what he did...and created the whole religion out of it. Makes more sense to me.