Jimmy Carter : Playing the race card

[faceking]

Wow... Jimmy. Just shut the fuck up you old hack.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Carter Claims There Is "Racist" Tone Against Obama

Most ppl whom disagree with Obama's disastrous policies couldn't care less if he was green... it's about policies... pathetic to pull the race card, so early and so conveniently. What was your excuse dickhead??? Prejudice against peanuts? 444 days dickwad....

 

[Principessa]

Wow... Jimmy. Just shut the fuck up you old hack.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Carter Claims There Is "Racist" Tone Against Obama

Most ppl whom disagree with Obama's disastrous policies couldn't care less if he was green... it's about policies... pathetic to pull the race card, so early and so conveniently. What was your excuse dickhead??? Prejudice against peanuts? 444 days dickwad....

:bsflag: It's about race just as much, if not more than his policies.

I'm going to quote the esteemed LPSG member Dee Blackthorne:

I'm a fan of expendiency:
Can we stop with all the nonsense about
Obama being a socialist, a Marxist, and a
Stalinist, and just call the man the n-word
already! Dang!
​

 

[B_VinylBoy]

The OP hasn't learned that the more he tries to point out racial hypocrisy in Politics by downplaying the apparent problems on one side of the political spectrum all the while starting countless numbers of threads and screaming bloody murder when the other does it, actually proves just how much of a racist he really is.

 

[Ericsson1228d]

I think Brit Hume gives an insightful commentary on the "Race Card" Matter.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Brit Hume On The Race Card And Joe Wilson


Essentially, he argues that if the term "racist" keeps being thrown around, it becomes like the "Boy who cried wolf." I think we are seeing this already, and if the dems keep it up, calling someone a racist will be dismissed as "business as usual for the dems."

The dems are quickly converting the "Race Card" from "Trump" into "Joker"

 

[Qua]

The OP hasn't learned that the more he tries to point out racial hypocrisy in Politics by downplaying the apparent problems on one side of the political spectrum all the while starting countless numbers of threads and screaming bloody murder when the other does it, actually proves just how much of a racist he really is.

No it doesn't. He just has to do it louder and more often because EVERYONE on the left does it, to the point where it just seems normal.

I tire of justified opposition to Obama's policies that have nothing to do with race being chalked up to racism. Granted, there is racism towards this president. It's exploited against all his opponents. It's like not being patriotic after 9/11

Remember when W suggested social security reform during the state of the union address and SEVERAL Democrats booed loudly? I recall someone recently (I don't care to figure out who) stating that Joe Wilson's sign of disrespect wouldn't have happened to a white president. Look. It did. And no one was formally reprimanded.

 

[D_Fiona_Farvel]

FK:
America is not a post-racial society.
Call Jimmy Carter a hack because he points out the obvious, if you must.
But stating policy is the only issue in regard to Obama shows you lack the reasoning necessary to even approach the topic of race in America.

Note, I am not discounting the fact there are other issues, such as the misconception in NJs signature that the president could repeal the 2nd Amendment - which she should reword, Imo. But, for many, Obama's race and assumed foreignness colour their perspectives to an extent that his policy becomes faulty by association.

 

[marleyisalegend]

Inconvenient truth #1: Wilson was a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. An overtly racist organization that has even advocated slavery.

Inconvenient truth #2. When Strom Thurmond's black daughter revealed her identity, Wilson said she was "smearing" her memory.

Inconvenient truth #3. There are racists in America. Some of them are involved in politics.

When the "r" word is used, it's guaranteed that someone will say ""You're just playing the race card." That is a standard and overplayed comment that no longer flies. If you call someone out on rascist behavior they get a free pass by saying you played the race card.

 

[Ericsson1228d]

Inconvenient truth #1: Wilson was a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. An overtly racist organization that has even advocated slavery.

Barack Obama belonged to Rev. Wright's church and had his kids baptized by him. That church, from what I have seen and read, is an overtly racist organization if I have ever seen one.

Inconvenient truth #2. When Strom Thurmond's black daughter revealed her identity, Wilson said she was "smearing" her memory.

This statement doesn't even make sense.


Inconvenient truth #3. There are racists in America. Some of them are involved in politics.
Yep, and they come in all skin colors.


When the "r" word is used, it's guaranteed that someone will say ""You're just playing the race card." That is a standard and overplayed comment that no longer flies. If you call someone out on rascist behavior they get a free pass by saying you played the race card.

No different than using the race card to begin with in an argument that has nothing to do with race. So, blame those who bandy the term "racist" - Jimmy Carter, Members of the Congressional Black Caucus, Rev. Wright, Jessee Jackson, Al Sharpton... etc etc etc. You have a long list to reprimand.

 

[Qua]

That is a standard and overplayed comment that no longer flies. If you call someone out on rascist behavior they get a free pass by saying you played the race card.

Marley, calling things racist has been similarly devalued. It's a negative feedback loop that has just about reached its nadir, to the detriment of both legitimate complaints. The boy who cried racist and the boy who cried race card. Chicken or egg?

 

[marleyisalegend]

Marley, calling things racist has been similarly devalued. It's a negative feedback loop that has just about reached its nadir, to the detriment of both legitimate complaints. The boy who cried racist and the boy who cried race card. Chicken or egg?

Of course this wouldn't be a problem if we addressed each issue by it's own merits instead of just using them as tools for this prove/disprove racism war but it's always tricky because neither side ever admits their bias. It's like talking to a pile of donkey shit, except the donkey shit has a higher mental capacity.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

No it doesn't. He just has to do it louder and more often because EVERYONE on the left does it, to the point where it just seems normal.

I disagree here...
Racism isn't a partisan political party issue, nor is it one that any side plays more than the other. From my standpoint, both sides like using the word very generously. If the OP was truly all about exposing the issues surrounding race, then his posts wouldn't be slanted particularly on one side.

I tire of justified opposition to Obama's policies that have nothing to do with race being chalked up to racism.

Well, most sensible people know the difference. It's not as if there are some people on this board who can voice a critique about the current administration or Obama and not make it a racial one. However, race becomes a factor AS SOON AS IT IS THROWN INTO THE EQUATION. It doesn't matter if you're on the offensive or defensive end of the debate.

Granted, there is racism towards this president.[?QUOTE]

And this should never be downplayed as some kind of political rhetoric. We all know it exists, the same way as many minorities hated Bush.

It's exploited against all his opponents. It's like not being patriotic after 9/11

Incorrect... Even liberal, political pundits like Rachel Maddow & Keith Olbermann have been critical about Obama and some of his policies. Many people who can't look beyond party lines would never see that, but there is concern about whether or not Obama can stick to his campaign promises. There is honestly a way to question people without throwing race into the equation. Perhaps more people should learn this?

Remember when W suggested social security reform during the state of the union address and SEVERAL Democrats booed loudly? I recall someone recently (I don't care to figure out who) stating that Joe Wilson's sign of disrespect wouldn't have happened to a white president. Look. It did. And no one was formally reprimanded.

Well, if we need to look at this through such a partisan view such as "Democrat vs. Republican", it's not as if Obama's speech on Health Care wasn't greeted with similar "boos" or "jeers" from the opposition. Because it was, regardless if it was loud or not. I expect a little tiff from opponents during speeches like this. The real issue is about Joe Wilson. Can you find a person who as that brazen during the Bush Administration to call him a liar or make such an outburst DURING his address to Congress?

 

[Qua]

Well, if we need to look at this through such a partisan view such as "Democrat vs. Republican", it's not as if Obama's speech on Health Care wasn't greeted with similar "boos" or "jeers" from the opposition. Because it was, regardless if it was loud or not. I expect a little tiff from opponents during speeches like this. The real issue is about Joe Wilson. Can you find a person who as that brazen during the Bush Administration to call him a liar or make such an outburst DURING his address to Congress?

No one person made an intelligible outburst during the Social Security section, however, there was a louder chorus of boos than anywhere in Obama's healthcare speech, enough to make Bush pause about the same amount of time as Obama after Joe Wilson's outburst. I'm NOT condoning either one. I think that the fact that one man made a political ploy and actually said a word, rather than merely heckling the speaker to break his stride like the Dems did is the only reason this is being treated differently. I mean, Bush was shouted down as soon as he suggested privatizing SS. Before any details were even described. I remember yelling at my TV screen, but no one in the media seemed to show any outrage.


Otherwise I largely agree with your post. I shouldn't have said ALL Obama's political opponents. But I see some analogy in the silencing of opposition using the race card to the use of "unpatriotic" in 02-03

 

[midlifebear]

Wow... Jimmy. Just shut the fuck up you old hack.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Carter Claims There Is "Racist" Tone Against Obama

Most ppl whom disagree with Obama's disastrous policies couldn't care less if he was green... it's about policies... pathetic to pull the race card, so early and so conveniently. What was your excuse dickhead??? Prejudice against peanuts? 444 days dickwad....

It's "Most people who disagree with" not whom. At least you no longer use the non word irregardless.

Was it your undiagnosed attention deficit disorder that kept you back in public school?

 

[midlifebear]

It's "Most people who disagree with" not whom. At least you no longer use the non word irregardless.

Was it your undiagnosed attention deficit disorder that kept you back in public school?

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As for President Carter, I can't think of a better white spokesperson to comment on Jim Crow and racism as it was and continues to be in the South; especially in Georgia. It's the weirdness of South Carolina that has been a constant problem both before and after the Civil Rights Movement. There's something about that State that makes Ewetaw appear normal.

 

[Principessa]

------------------ As for President Carter, I can't think of a better white spokesperson to comment on Jim Crow and racism as it was and continues to be in the South; especially in Georgia. It's the weirdness of South Carolina that has been a constant problem both before and after the Civil Rights Movement. There's something about that State that makes Ewetaw appear normal.

Every southern state has its own bit of freaky. It goes well beyond state pride, some of it is just plain confederate crazy passed down through the generations.

 

[BOOPO2]

Jimmy carter was the worst president we have ever had & he still won't go away.
If you are white & you do something to help a white person you are a racist--
if you are black & you help another black person ,you did it to help your fellow black man.
Wake up

 

[B_VinylBoy]

No one person made an intelligible outburst during the Social Security section, however, there was a louder chorus of boos than anywhere in Obama's healthcare speech, enough to make Bush pause about the same amount of time as Obama after Joe Wilson's outburst. I'm NOT condoning either one. I think that the fact that one man made a political ploy and actually said a word, rather than merely heckling the speaker to break his stride like the Dems did is the only reason this is being treated differently. I mean, Bush was shouted down as soon as he suggested privatizing SS. Before any details were even described. I remember yelling at my TV screen, but no one in the media seemed to show any outrage.

Otherwise I largely agree with your post. I shouldn't have said ALL Obama's political opponents. But I see some analogy in the silencing of opposition using the race card to the use of "unpatriotic" in 02-03

Here's the problem with that...
When you have people like Limbaugh repeatedly playing "Barack The Magic Negro" on his show and calling him a "Halfrican American", the chair of a Californian Republican Women's Group passing out "Obama Food Stamps" with a picture of him holding a watermelon on them, congressmen like Jeff Davis from Kentucky saying things like, "[We don't need] that boy's finger near the button", Glenn Beck calling the President a racist, never mind several demonstrators from so-called Tea Bag Protests, Town Hall Debates and most recently the 9-12 Rally holding up protest signs that either refer to the man's skin color, nationality or both (just to name a few isolated incidents off the top of my head), then what are we supposed to call that?

Even if free speech is protected by the First Amendment, it doesn't change the nature of these statements. Even if these arguments are not yours, they exist in a very loud & public fashion and nobody should be trying to downplay them for political points. Worse still, maybe some people do believe these various acts to be a joke. But at what point do we use everyday common sense and agree that engaging in this kind of tone in a public forum shouldn't be protocol for a person in the political or journalistic field? By all means, say and do what you want in private among your friends, family or whatever. But when you're on stage, in the spotlight, and doing your job which is supposed to be informing the American people about what is happening in our country, do we need to see or hear this or one of the many derivatives of these comments emitting from the mouths of those who should know better?

If you say something racist in nature, then it's going to be labeled as such. Plain & simple. We all know the difference, and if someone out there doesn't then they should learn it very quickly.

 

[vince]

Racism knows no state (or national) lines guys. I lived in the south for six years and by far, the worst American racist I ever met lives in Wisconsin. He's my brother-in-law and his whole family are bat shit crazy racists. On the other hand, I know people from the south, some of them members here, who don't have a racist bone in their bodies. I've also met some pretty bad European racists. Over here, they are generally a little more subtle about it. But it is still there.

I think that generalizing and stereotyping like some in this thread are doing is the flip side of the teabaggers. Calling out people who disagree with Obama as racist is stupid. No doubt about it, some of them are, but not all of them. Or even a majority of them. Hell, I don't agree with everything he says or has done. What label did we pin on people who disagreed with Clinton's policies?

American political discourse seems to be going backwards to the level it was at in the 1800's. Slander, innuendo, half-truths, and out right lies seem to be the order of the day. At least that's the stuff that gets the most press. Everybody is screaming and nobody is listening, or seems to be able to think straight and see past their own self-interest. It seems to be rough times in the good 'ole USA. At least that's the view from this outsider who use to be an insider.

 

[Phil Ayesho]

Wow... Jimmy. Just shut the fuck up you old hack.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Carter Claims There Is "Racist" Tone Against Obama

Most ppl whom disagree with Obama's disastrous policies couldn't care less if he was green... it's about policies... pathetic to pull the race card, so early and so conveniently. What was your excuse dickhead??? Prejudice against peanuts? 444 days dickwad....

Bullshit.

A white racist supporter of white racism in South Carolina is the ONLY man to ever heckle a president in joint session...

The comparisons of Obama to hitler and calling him an illegal immigrant?

The revelation of their racism is patent in the total lack of any substance in their opposition.

These were the same fucks who lambasted Democrats who opposed the war in Iraq ads not being supportive of the elected president in a time of crisis..

Where the fuck is YOUR patriotic support of the elected president in time of crisis?


Tell you what... we will stop accusing you sad tired white fucks of racism when you guys shut the fuck up and accept a democratically elected president as president and show him the fucking respect due the fucking office.

Substantive rebuttal is one thing... but the pathetic hysterics if the right are clearly the result of latent racism and hatred.
Period.

 

[Phil Ayesho]

PS-
Carter was right on the money.
and I congratulate him in speaking up.
Time to call these backwards social retards on the carpet.