Jk Rowling

[cherryboom66]

Snowflake (slang) - Wikipedia

well according to the definition it is possible for members of the transgendered community to be snowflakes, they are not excluded from the term. Anyone of any age, race, religion, nationality, gender, and sexual orientation can be snowflakes.

Unless your comment fulfills the context, shut up.

 

[fireman1294]

Unless your comment fulfills the context, shut up.

That comment just proves that it did, you and your community are not automatically exempt from the term or usage of it. To assume so absolutely fulfills the definition of the term.

 

[cherryboom66]

That comment just proves that it did, you and your community are not automatically exempt from the term or usage of it. To assume so absolutely fulfills the definition of the term.

I don’t understand why you are trolling this thread. I don’t understand why you’re not grasping this and I DO NOT understand why I am even explaining this to anyone, it doesn’t make any sense. It’s like a child saying “I know you are you said you are but what I am”.... Your have made your words useless.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Never read them. But I defend her right to have a view. I mean to deny her that right would be misogynist, right?

Defend her all you want. I'll criticize her all *I* want.

Stop fucking quoting me, please and thanks. I'm not interested in your defense of bigots.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Snowflake (slang) - Wikipedia

well according to the definition it is possible for members of the transgendered community to be snowflakes, they are not excluded from the term. Anyone of any age, race, religion, nationality, gender, and sexual orientation can be snowflakes.

You melt over everything I say in this section, trigglypuff. We're name calling now? Open that door and I'll walk right through.

 

[keenobserver]

You melt over everything I say in this section, trigglypuff. We're name calling now? Open that door and I'll walk right through.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

 

[slivovic]

Defend her all you want. I'll criticize her all *I* want.

Stop fucking quoting me, please and thanks. I'm not interested in your defense of bigots.

There's a mute button. I reply to whomever I want. That is also free speech.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

There's a mute button. I reply to whomever I want. That is also free speech.

No one is threatening to jail you for what your blabbering on about. I'm just asking you to stop quoting me.

I don't like using the ignore function. We can agree to leave each other alone. I've said all I have to say in this thread. Leave me alone and I'll show you the same respect.

 

[slivovic]

No one is threatening to jail you for what your blabbering on about. I'm just asking you to stop quoting me.

I don't like using the ignore function. We can agree to leave each other alone. I've said all I have to say in this thread. Leave me alone and I'll show you the same respect.

Ok no worries. I quote you here just for the record. If that's what you want, I will respect that. I never 'targeted' you as such. But anyway I wish you no ill will at all. I wish you good health in this nasty time.

 

[slivovic]

Did you actually just call trans men and women affected by her words snowflakes?

No. But people who melt at others viewpoints and have a tantrum over them, definitely are.

 

[slivovic]

In free countries people render themselves unemployable. Ironically, if they had strong unions that would not happen, but the same conservative people who spread the transphobic hate also opposed unions and the job protections they negotiate. As to anyone in the public eye, writer, actor, politician, you are judged by what you say and believe - even if it is not what you do. Rowling generated massive good will among readers all over the world with her books that celebrated unique differences and were great metaphors on discrimination, racism and hate. The films multiplied that by a factor or 12. Then she spoke . . . . She may recover, but she tarnished her own box office, no one else, really.

The folks who are angry are angry because of what she said and that what she said has long been perceived as contrary to what she believes. It's like finding out the priest really did do what he was accused of after the church congregation vouched for him.

No, not at all. That isn't the point. Rowling is rich enough to cope with anything. Also, if someone is offended by a public statement from a person, then it is fine if they choose to refrain from purchasing products etc. of that person. That is totally acceptable. What is unacceptable, and totalitarian and evil, is public campaigns of villification against political opponents, engineered via social media etc., and attempts at personal harassment, contacting family members, doxxing, contacting workplaces etc. Especially of members of the general public. I think that that is pure evil. And it has nothing to do whatever with 'consequences of free speech'. Its the Clementine Ford opposite reality version of free speech.

 

[slivovic]

The fiscal harm is self inflicted. I would agree that no should be physically harmed at all.

I have no problem with people choosing of their own free will not to purchase products by Rowling. If there is a media witchhunt however which attacks studios which intend to use her materials (which would otherwise make money for said studios) I think that is also wrong. As I say this, I have never bought a book (or read one) or watched a complete movie based on any of her books. I actually dislike the whole Hairy Pooterverse

 

[keenobserver]

No, not at all. That isn't the point. Rowling is rich enough to cope with anything. Also, if someone is offended by a public statement from a person, then it is fine if they choose to refrain from purchasing products etc. of that person. That is totally acceptable. What is unacceptable, and totalitarian and evil, is public campaigns of villification against political opponents, engineered via social media etc., and attempts at personal harassment, contacting family members, doxxing, contacting workplaces etc. Especially of members of the general public. I think that that is pure evil. And it has nothing to do whatever with 'consequences of free speech'. Its the Clementine Ford opposite reality version of free speech.

That's not what is happening here. People express outrage on social media - it is magnified more than if it was a couple of people on a park bench talking among themselves.

 

[keenobserver]

I have no problem with people choosing of their own free will not to purchase products by Rowling. If there is a media witchhunt however which attacks studios which intend to use her materials (which would otherwise make money for said studios) I think that is also wrong. As I say this, I have never bought a book (or read one) or watched a complete movie based on any of her books. I actually dislike the whole Hairy Pooterverse

Choosing not to use the material of someone who is socially outcast by their own actions and words is just good old fashioned capitalism. Trump still keeps Hitler's "Mein Kamp" on a book shelf. Says its got some great stories in it. I don't see a Disney movie in that. The issues are tied by the actions of the individual. Some of their work will suffer. Will Rowling over the long haul, doubtful. Most of her fans will agree to disagree and watch a film for the 100th time. Time will tell, but regardless, she did it all to herself.

No one had to hunt the witch. Witchhunts by definition are shams, her case is real and she made it herself.

 

[slivovic]

Choosing not to use the material of someone who is socially outcast by their own actions and words is just good old fashioned capitalism. Trump still keeps Hitler's "Mein Kamp" on a book shelf. Says its got some great stories in it. I don't see a Disney movie in that. The issues are tied by the actions of the individual. Some of their work will suffer. Will Rowling over the long haul, doubtful. Most of her fans will agree to disagree and watch a film for the 100th time. Time will tell, but regardless, she did it all to herself.

No one had to hunt the witch. Witchhunts by definition are shams, her case is real and she made it herself.

I've said that essentially this has nothing to do with Rowling herself. I note your use of what some would consider misogynistic language. And I see you justify corporatism when it suits you. How would you respond if Greta Thunberg was blacklisted and no one would employ her? Is that 'good old fashioned capitalism', and thus justifiable to you?
The reference to Mein Kampf is a red herring. Unless you feel that JK Rowling is 'literally Hitler' (and anyone who espouses a view not vetted by Komsomol is also 'literally Hitler'), On the other hand, Das Kapital and the Red Book of Mao still have extensive, and relatively unstigmatized, distribution, and they arguably led to the deaths of even more millions than Mein Kampf.

 

[keenobserver]

I've said that essentially this has nothing to do with Rowling herself. I note your use of what some would consider misogynistic language. And I see you justify corporatism when it suits you. How would you respond if Greta Thunberg was blacklisted and no one would employ her? Is that 'good old fashioned capitalism', and thus justifiable to you?
The reference to Mein Kampf is a red herring. Unless you feel that JK Rowling is 'literally Hitler' (and anyone who espouses a view not vetted by Komsomol is also 'literally Hitler'), On the other hand, Das Kapital and the Red Book of Mao still have extensive, and relatively unstigmatized, distribution, and they arguably led to the deaths of even more millions than Mein Kampf.

I don't see Greta selling Goya beans do you? Trump very much has tried to diminish her and ignore her, but it failed, I did see Trump cost an NFL player his job because Trump did not like him kneeling for the national anthem. He lost his pro career because if that. Conscience over money. That fit your concerns more than Rowling's situation. The Hitler book comparison was totally valid. Trump has quoted from Mussolini many times while running for office and did not deny it - his response was "Yeah, but what a great quote." Despite Trump's endorsement and a Treasury Secretary who makes blockbuster movies, nothing on Benito either. Hardly seems fair by your standard.

 

[slivovic]

I don't see Greta selling Goya beans do you? Trump very much has tried to diminish her and ignore her, but it failed, I did see Trump cost an NFL player his job because Trump did not like him kneeling for the national anthem. He lost his pro career because if that. Conscience over money. That fit your concerns more than Rowling's situation. The Hitler book comparison was totally valid. Trump has quoted from Mussolini many times while running for office and did not deny it - his response was "Yeah, but what a great quote." Despite Trump's endorsement and a Treasury Secretary who makes blockbuster movies, nothing on Benito either. Hardly seems fair by your standard.

I don't approve of cancel culture whoever does it, frankly. I think it stinks. I've told you, I'm not specifically a Trump supporter. To reference Mein Kampf in relation to JK Rowling is inappropriate. Trump has some far right dog whistles and tendencies, no doubt. But Rowling is undubitably left wing. But because she doesn't tow the line on one issue, she is attacked viciously and voceiferously by pitchfork wielding mindless twitter mobs.

 

[cherryboom66]

I don't approve of cancel culture whoever does it, frankly. I think it stinks. I've told you, I'm not specifically a Trump supporter. To reference Mein Kampf in relation to JK Rowling is inappropriate. Trump has some far right dog whistles and tendencies, no doubt. But Rowling is undubitably left wing. But because she doesn't tow the line on one issue, she is attacked viciously and voceiferously by pitchfork wielding mindless twitter mobs.

You are so damn rude. “Pitchfork wielding mindless twitter mobs”. It’s not mindless to stick up for your trans brothers and sisters. Why don’t you start.

 

[slivovic]

You are so damn rude. “Pitchfork wielding mindless twitter mobs”. It’s not mindless to stick up for your trans brothers and sisters. Why don’t you start.

Criticism is fair. Persecution is not. I do stick up for trans people when they are persecuted.