Jobless father Kills Family, Let Make A Change in Nov.

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  1. Omegaman

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    This is very sad story that the $700 hundred billion can't fix. People need help: VOTE FOR CHANGE

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    LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A man distraught because he could not find work shot and killed his mother-in-law, his wife and three sons and then killed himself inside a home in an upscale San Fernando Valley neighborhood, police said.
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    Authorities said the man had an MBA in finance but appeared to have been unemployed for several months and had worked for major accounting firms, such as Price Waterhouse.
    The two-story rented home is in a gated community in Porter Ranch, about 20 miles northwest of Los Angeles.
    The shootings were discovered after 8:20 a.m. Monday, after a neighbor called police to report that the wife had failed to pick her up to take her to her job at a pharmacy, Deputy Chief of Police Michel Moore said.
    Ed Winter, assistant chief from the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office, identified the suspect as Karthik Rajaram, 45.
    Winter said the victims included Rajaram's mother-in-law, Indra Ramasesham, 69, and his 19-year-old son Krishna Rajaram, a Fulbright Scholar and honor student at UCLA. [​IMG] Watch police say the gunman was "embroiled in a financial crisis" »
    Also dead were Rajaram's wife, 39, Subasari Rajaram, and their two other sons, 12 and 7. Some of the victims had been shot more than once, and their identities were not immediately confirmed, he said.
    "Due to the nature of their injuries, it's been a little difficult," Winter said, adding that there were no signs of a struggle.
    Police first found the mother-in-law shot in her bed in a downstairs bedroom, Moore said.
    Upstairs, the couple's eldest old son was shot in the master bedroom; the wife in another bedroom with a gunshot wound to the head; the two younger sons in the bedroom they shared, both shot in the head. The 12-year-old was on the floor and the 7-year-old in bed, Moore said.[​IMG] Watch more on what police had to say about tragedy »
    The suspect was also in that bedroom, a gun still in his hand.
    The killings are thought to have occurred after 6 p.m. Saturday, when the man was last reported seen, Moore said.
    Inside the house, police also found three letters, one to law enforcement acknowledging responsibility for the killings, a second to friends and relatives and a third that appears to be the suspect's will, Moore said.
    "He attests to some financial difficulties, and he takes responsibility for the taking of the lives of his family members and himself as a result of those financial difficulties," Moore said.
    Neighbors, family and friends told police that the suspect, who had not worked for several months, had said in recent days he was having had extreme financial difficulties, Moore said.
    One of the letters, intended for friends and marked "personal and confidential," detailed his financial transactions that resulted in "an unfortunate, downward spiral," Moore said.
    "His narrative is one of talking about this tragedy befalling him and his contemplation of an available exit or solution," Moore said. "One is taking his own life and the other is taking the lives of his family and himself. ... He talked himself into the second strategy, believing that was in effect the honorable thing to do."
    Moore said the several-page narrative appeared to have been written over a period of time. "This was something that was not a spur-of-the-moment type of event," he said.
    Moore said it was clear to police that the family members were close and "had an affection for each other." He said the parents had given up their master bedroom to their eldest -- who was spending the weekend home from college -- "out of respect."
    "This is a perfect American family behind me that has absolutely been destroyed, apparently because of a man who just got stuck in a rabbit hole, if you will, of absolute despair, somehow working his way into believing this to be an acceptable exit."
    No neighbors reported having heard gunshots, and there was no sign of forced entry at the house, Moore said.
    Rajaram was involved in a financial holding company as part owner "at least," Moore said.
    There is no evidence he had had any history of mental difficulties, nor was there an indication he had sought counseling, Moore said.
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    Neighbor Trish Harrison, who lives three houses from the crime scene, said the family had lived in the community for about a year, but kept to themselves and had little interaction with neighbors. The parents were from India, she said.
    The Los Angeles Unified School District was making arrangements for crisis counselors to visit the schools attended by the two younger
     
  2. marleyisalegend

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    Unfortunately this is probably just the beginning. An old 80 year old woman who had the sheriff knocking on her door to put her out shot herself twice in the chest. Fortunately (or unfortunately) she survived but atleast the oh-so-kind bank decided to forgive her debt. And all she had to do was shoot herself.:rolleyes:

    It's a bit questionable though to use these people's deaths to make a political statement.
     
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    I get the strange feeling that these are friends of friends...
     
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    Uh, I think that guy had bigger problems than being between jobs.
     
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    It is a tragedy, and I hope we do not see an increase in murder-suicides.

    Perhaps. However, for many people, all they need is "right stressor at the wrong time".
     
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    amazing...that no one wants to be responsible for self and family...

    no one knows how to save...its spend spend spend...the..the roof falls in...all of the sudden....a financial nightmare...they are ill equipped to handle..

    u people who think obama is going to change it all...how stupid are u guys?
    my God...
    we are the company we keep...look at his non disclosure of his life...its says MORE then what he might admit too..
    good night..he lives next to Lewie Fraahhkan...they are friends...do we need to go on?

    He picks a life long Democrat for a running mate...who knows nothing about change...
    and then Barry says Change...PEOPLE..GUYS...REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH IS SOCIALISM...IF U CANT HACK THE CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM HERE IN THE USA...MOVE TO SOME PLACE THAT PRACTICES SOCIALISM...IF ALL THE WEALTHY IN THE US..MOVE...WE HAVE A NEW CUBA HERE...1959. WHEN CASTRO SEIZED CONTROL ON 12-31-59...ALL THE WEALTHY PEOPLE LEFT AND FLED TO FLORIDA...THEY LEFT ALL THEIR MONEY AND POSSESSIONS BEHIND...AND GUESS WHAT...THEY STARTED ALL OVER....AND BECOME MORE PROSPEROUS THEN EVER BEFORE...ASK A CUBAN ABOUT SOCIALISM...THEY KNOW FIRST HAND HOW SCARY IT IS..
    U WANT FREE MEDICAL CARE...GO TO CUBA..FIND OUT HOW GREAT IT IS...IF IT WAS THAT GREAT..WHY DIDN'T FIDEL HAVE HIS OPERATIONS THERE? AHHHHHHHHHHH
    U GUYS HAVE BEEN SHORT CHANGED IN UR EDUCATION...HISTORY...THIS OBAMA..IS A RADICAL LEFT SOCIALISTIC GUY...AND IF U THINK THERE IS UNEMPLOYMENT NOW...IF HE GETS IN OFFICE...IT WILL BE 1929 ALL OVER AGAIN...
     
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    ^Are you done?
     
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    I hope not!
     
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    *snicker* Three months ago, you Republicans were all Barack Obama has no experience! Now your smear is Barack Obama has so much experience, he's kept some of it secret!

    So, I'll be blunt: Fuck you. No white candidate for president has ever been asked to produce a birth certificate just to prove that he's a "real" American. No white candidate has ever had the character of his freakin' elementary school questioned. No white candidate has ever been accused of showing marital affection via "terrorist fist jab".

    Obama's life has been more scrutinized and dissected than that of any other candidate ever. And for you to pretend otherwise isn't just ignorant of the facts, it's bigoted.
     
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    I wish that i'd known that saying "FUCK YOU" to some of the complete and UTTER Douche-bags around these parts was NOT considered off-limits. It does simplify the response time to the Bullshit.:smile: P.S.: regarding the original intent of this thread, It is a tradgedy what tough times like these will drive people to do......
     
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    I think they should bring Bush to trial. It's all his fault.

    Is Keith Olbermann hung... did he sign up on LPSG?
     
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    And an F you too... because until Obama no black candidate for president has ever been asked to produce a birth certificate. So nice try pulling the race card....

    Besides, can you provide any factual data and research on any of these claims. There have been hundreds of candidates in the last half century alone.
     
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    is an administrator upheld to taste and decency of a moderator... just curious.

    that was EXTREMELY juvenile Mindseye. too bad.
     
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    I concede that's vacuously true. It's naive of you to dismiss my objections to questioning madrassa-educated Barack "Hussein" Obama's citizenship as "pulling the race card".

    I made three claims, which I'll expand upon below:

    • On August 15, 2008, Jerome Corsi made the accusation on FOX and Friends that the birth certificate that the Obama campaign produced is a fake. I claim that no major news outlet -- print, radio, or television -- has ever issued such an accusation about any white presidential candidate.
    • On January 23, 2007, KSFO host Lee Rodgers accused Obama of having attended "basically a school for terrorists" -- a stronger version of a story previously published by the Washington Times and repeated on-air by John Gibson. I claim that no major news outlet -- print, radio, or television -- has ever accused a white presidential candidate of having trained to be a terrorist.
    • On July 6, 2008, E.D. Hill of America's Pulse referred to a greeting between Barack and Michelle Obama as a "terrorist fist jab". I claim that no major news outlet -- print, radio, or television -- has ever accused a white presidential candidate of having greeted his wife in the manner of a terrorist.
    How exactly would one go about proving something that didn't happen? I can't prove an absence of something. At best, I can attest this: as a political junkie, I've read about every presidential election. As a mathematician, I'm attuned to the unusual statistical oddity in electoral politics. If any of the things I alleged didn't happen did in fact happen, I can't imagine not having discovered it before.

    That's not a proof, of course. But I'm willing to be held to my word. And if you, or anyone else, can find an instance where one of these things did happen, I'll fully and sincerely own up to my error.
     
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    Pure bullshit, there isn’t a candidate in history that didn’t go through the same thing Obama is going through and certainly not since the advent of the Information Age. Since the inception of campaigns there have been staff members who’s only job is digging up dirt.

     
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    John McCain was born at Coco Solo (Panama Canal Zone) and there was a bipartisan legal review brought forth that in the end agreed he is a natural-born citizen allowing him to hold the presidency.
     
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    Every candidate goes through this? Fine: Where did McCain attend second grade? Reply with a link to a source, please, since this is the Information Age.

    No, false. (Is this the first election you've paid attention to?) No such legal review has taken place. John McCain is indisputably a citizen, but it has not yet been determined in a court of law whether he qualifies as a "natural born" citizen. (source)
     
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    Let’s not get all hooky here and worry about one question, let’s focus on the fact that all candidates go through the same thing and if it makes you feel better I’m sure John McCain has been asked many questions that the same were not asked of Obama.

    And I think if you actually read your own link you will see where a legal review by the United States Senate was held in April of this year.
     
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    You called my claims "pure bullshit", and now that I've rebutted you're waffling.

    Not every candidate goes through the same thing: There's a difference between attack ads that suggest that a candidate's opponent shouldn't be president ("Barack Obama will raise your taxes! We can't afford Barack Obama!") and attacking one's fundamental Americanness.

    I mean, the worst we heard in 2004 along those lines was that John Kerry "look[ed] French", and if you think that's "the same thing", you're in deep denial.

    I see that it's non-binding and has "no legal effect".
     
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