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John Cleese on Sarah Palin

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TurkeyWithaSunburn, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. TurkeyWithaSunburn

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    Classic! And absolutely spot on :))
     
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    Michael Palin = Sarah Palin ;)
     
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    Ahh......., he's an actor -- And represents that group quite well with his brilliant political commentary. Please - bring in Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, Sue Sarandon, Alec Baldwin, Hanoi Jane and Matt Damon. We are begging for their thoughtful and insightful contributions. Oh, and hopefully Springstein can chip in, too.
     
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    And what makes the viewpoint of an actor/actress anymore irrelevant than one of a... well, I dunno... a bank investor? I'm sure if he supported Palin you wouldn't be talking about him like this.

    Besides. He's one of the minds behind Python & Faulty Towers! :biggrin1:
     
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    The actor community, much like the LPSG community, is predominantly very left-leaning. They do more harm than good when they make political comments.
     
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    It was meant to be a lighthearted post. The same way Betty White's take on the election was.

    Does everybody go ballistic over everything in the politics forum? :frown:
     
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    John nails it again. Right on, a replacement for the empty suit, an empty skirt. But of course we artists in various media just produce the culture, not pretend money like the stock market wolves, so our opinions don't count. Only multi-millionaires should determine how the country is run.

    Oh wait, that is the system we already have. Good then there should never be any economic problems or mistakes or melt-downs. We are so safe and well cared for, lets just go veg out in front of the TV some more and see Sarah look cute for us again.
     
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    pretty much
     
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    To you, it only seems to do more harm when they lean to the left. Meanwhile, if they were speaking positively about your candidate of choice they would take it as an endorsement. Like when Toby Keith made his patriotic song, "Red White & Blue". Many right wingers considered him to be a major asset to America. At the same time, these same people denounced The Dixie Chicks for having an opinion that was less favorable about the president.

    Most people who are in the arts & entertainment fields support concepts like Freedom of Expression, the right to Free Speech and no censorship. It only makes sense that the majority of them would be more liberal because these thoughts are already liberal to begin with. They're not just speaking against conservative, right winged ideas because they're blindly liberal. And it's natural for the majority of this community to be against Palin because she tried to get books yanked off of library shelves, aka a form of censorship. I'm not saying that it's good, bad or otherwise. If anything, it's kinda expected. Same way we'd expect any fundamental Christian to speak up against anyone who is Pro Choice.
     
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    Man, Michael Palin was hot in Monty Python's Flying Circus. I used to watch that show when I was a kid. He really made me laugh.
     
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    So you would rather they didn't make any political comments at all?

    His opinion was factually accurate and in no way a false representation of Palin. She does learn speeches. She has a vacant look when making speeches, and a dead stare...probably focussed on the autocue.

    Palin is a puppet. Her first name should be Judy.

    We've all heard what unintelligent tripe comes out of her mouth when she's left to stumble through constructing her own sentences.

    It's obvious to anyone who wasn't forced from birth to support a particular political party that Palin does not have the intelligence, the tact or indeed the good morals required to run the most powerful country in the world.

    And the fact is if she were elected, she would in the near future become the president.

    Another thing is...this smear campaign against Obama. Palin is deplorable. You see how far McCain's finger is up her ass when she has no problem telling such lies and spreading racist propaganda.

    I don't see how anyone can defend Palin or her associates. The Republicans aren't about policies, if they ever were. Now they're about spreading hate, misinformation and scaremongering. Why would want people like that in positions of power?
     
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    You are very confused here. Toby Keith wrote a song about freedom and defending our country. He didn't slam anyone.

    The Dixie Hoe's slammed Bush. Matt Damon slammed Palin. This nimrod slams McCain/Palin. Very different. One guy sings about freedom and country in a time of crisis and attack. The liberal singers and actors just slam the right. See the difference?
     
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    (sarcasm==> Oh yeah, I bet the Conservatives never say a bad word about liberals.:rolleyes:<==sarcasm ends)

    I think that everyone should be able to speak their minds and hearts on things. Shit, last time I checked the Bible. There weren't any commandments that said THOU SHALT NOT TALK ABOUT THE GOP or the Democratic Party.
     
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    Whenever someone makes comments you disagree with you just lump them into some enemy category and dismiss them. That's not very critical.
     
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    I see. Because he's an actor, and British as well, I presume, he's not entitled to a perception of Palin's presentation, performance or depth? I would venture to propose that precisely because he is trained as an actor he might have a little more insight into those things than the average person? I don't know, just wondering.
     
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    He didn't slam anyone American who was currently in office. That's the realness of the statement

    As did so many other people inside and outside of her field. Yet the entire Country Music Community was all up in arms about it. Then again, I should expect that from a group of people who thought Shania Twain was too risque when she showed her belly button at concerts.

    As did so many people inside and outside his field. What makes you think ANY politician is sacred and cannot be criticized? If he did this to Obama/Biden, you'd be here talking about how intelligent he is. Stop with the double standards!

    Correction... one seized an opportunity to resurge his career by making a hyper patriotic song at a time where everyone in America was feeling down, aimed at a group of people who are usually even more hyper patriotic than the average one.

    They voiced their opinions, or practiced their rights to free speech. You know, that thing so many hyper-conservatives want to use but ONLY if it benefits them? That concept they say Democrats want to ban, yet stand behind a potential VP candidate that is into censorship? Yeah... I see the difference! :rolleyes:
     
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    If they hadn't nailed her to the podium she'd be pushing up daisies...

    ...Still... beautiful plummage...
     
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    Doesn't he live in California somehwere now?
     
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    You're all individuals.
     
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    Agreed. Even though this is a very serious election, you have to laugh at the foibles of those who ask us to let them govern us.

    The all time funniest satire (sooo far...) was Tina's Fey's exact repetition of Palin's mental seizure during her interview with K. Couric. It cannot get more surreal. I mean fire all the SNL copy writers, and bring in Sarah.

    YouTube - SNL- Tina Fey Parrots Sarah Palin

    Tina is better at repeating Sarah's lines than Sarah. I mean you would not want this woman running your local PTA much less being veep.
     
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    Yes, he lives in the LA area.
     
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    Contrary to your ubscured, hate-filled belief system, every conservative in America isn't an evil money-worshipper. TK had family members who served in wars, and he loves the USA. This was an inspiration song that did a small part to reinforce American pride in a nation that was hurt, confused, angry and depressed.

    If this was such an easy time for an artist to revive his/her career, why weren't others out there doing it? Using your theory, the Trixie Dimwits, or whatever the hell they are called must be ultra foolish to denegrate the President at a Patriotic time like that.
     
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    I don't act as if every conservative is evil. I'd vote for a Republican if they shared views that aligned with mine. And I have voted for a Republican Governor when I lived in Massachusetts. I figured I'd mention this again because it seems that conservatives that argue with me about my biased opinion keep on forgetting that.

    But you, along with a couple of other cronies on this board clearly are. I'm not mentioning names either because they all know who they are.

    That's a nice sob story that would bring tears to the eyes of the average American. That is, if they never lived in NYC like I did. With the exception of family members who lost people in the attacks, nobody felt the impact of 9/11 more than anyone who lived in New York when it happened. I had to walk the streets of New York the day after 9/11. That was when most of the lower Manhattan was blocked off from the general public below W. 14th Street. You could still see ashes flying around in the city skies. People walked around in a daze in the deafening silence. Most people I ran into were in tears. Many people couldn't contact one another since communications were down. It took people in this city a very long time to get over it.

    So yeah... while most Americans watched the attack on TV and got all patriotic, myself as well as millions of other New Yorkers lived it. And we still live with it as we watch people such as yourself, who probably will never have to walk around the streets of your city or town after a terrorist attack, try to tell everyone else in America how un-patriotic we are because we don't follow your ideals or support your thoughts on how this nation should be run.

    Every person deals with tragedy in their own way. Most people didn't even want to touch on the subject out of respect for those who lost family members or was still suffering trauma from the attack. TK had every right to do what he did, and yeah the song was kinda cute fr a brief moment. But don't put too much value into what he did.

    Ironically, they were only excommunicated by the right and from the country music community. At the same time, they were embraced by everyone else and eventually went on to win a Grammy for Album of the Year. If anything, I found their actions to be more noble than what TK did. The Dixie Chicks were up front and honest with the world and practiced their right to free speech, even though it wasn't popular with the powers that be and it almost cost them their careers. TK strategically released a patriotic song, working on the emotional strings of the suddenly patriotic who decided after many years of wearing designer clothing that an American Flag was the hottest fashion statement.

    But yeah, that song did kick butt, didn't it?
     
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    It's so VERY Bush. And it's how bad decisions are never questioned and vetted. And consequently get repeated over and over and over again a la the serial failures of the Bush presidency. Only relying on a small (cabal) circle of people to make decisions.
     
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    Spoken by a true moron.

    Actually, I don't have a problem with John, but that really rubbed me the wrong way.
     
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    You have offered zero evidence that this is in any way true.


    And your rhetoric is the one most heavily loaded with republican style hate--
     
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