John Holmes

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    Yeah.... John has a real nice dick....I have his first completely "Gay" movie. Titled...
    " The Private Pleasures of John Holmes. It is a very cheesy movie. He plays a Sultan with all his little slave boys. It very funny to watch.
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    Some vid caps from a very early movie.
     
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    Johnny Giant was an 8mm loop he made around 1969/70, and goes back to his pre-moustache period, when John "I never did no gay films" Holmes also appeared in the something-for-everyone porn/horror feature Widow Blue, which included gay, straight and bi action.

    Johnny Giant is currently included as one of the extras on Something Weird's DVD release of Richard Stockton's gay hustler feature The Meatrack (1968-70) in the US.
     
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    When John Holmes died of AIDS on March 13, 1988 there were a lot of us teenage kids who refused to believe that he ever made gay films (or had gay tendencies.) It was akin to saying John Wayne was a sissy. He may have really been closer to 10" than 131/2" but there was no denying he performed with hundreds if not thousands of porn actresses in his career. Thomas' Boogie Nights gave a highly romanticized version of the early life of John Holmes, but I have yet to really see an accurate documentary on him.

    For one reason, like his penile measurement, much was publicity created illusion to further his porn legend, as well as further the budding porno industry in the San Fernando Valley. Screw's Al Goldstein himself said that 20% of John Holmes' 12.58" measurement was for publicity. Producer Bob Chin who (I believe) made Holmes' Johnny Wadd character wasn't above exaggerating the number of climaxes John could perform in one take. The porn industry of the 1970's needed John Holmes. A quote from an AVN source: "He put porn on the map. The explosion in mainstream popularity was thanks largely to one John Curtiss Holmes."

    Many porn actors would be satified with that. But then why all the additional extraneous baloney about being a UCLA grad, or hiding his difficult early childhood in Ohio? America loves Horatio Alger stories, even if success is earned by ones penis. Perhaps it has to do with the fact, if reports are true, that Holmes' intellect did not match his penis size. He was, by all accounts, a gullible fellow not particulary astute with money or contracts, and taken to snorting most of his earnings up his nose in latter years. Those money woes were what led to his involvement in the Eddie Nash/ Laural Canyon murders and his bout in prision.

    In the end, what I oddly remember most after his death was a short pseudo-documentary compilation of Johnny Wadd films with Holmes' screwing a dozen unattractive "monster muffed" actresses from the seventies. A guy from the Golden Throat Broadcaster School supplied the voice-over.

    "But whatever role he assumed, he was always on the side of law and 'gewd.'"

    Not a bad way to be remembered.
     
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    He was a pretty good actor in those movies.
    It kind of surprised me.
    Holmes was in the first porn i ever saw and it probably
    wasnt the best dick for a teenager to compare to. lol.
    well...this teenager.
     
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    You're funny! If Johnny had had your sexy face, everything would have been higher up on the pedestal!:wink:
     
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    John Holmes never did gay porn just like Peter North (aka Matt Ramsey) never bottomed. Those were all stand-ins dammit. STAND-INS!!! *LOL*
     
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    There was also "Wonderland" with Val Kilmer and Lisa Kudrow, but http://www.rottentomatoes.com gives it only a rating of 34%. ("Boogie Nights" is rated at 95%.)
     
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    You might want to check out David Wald's interview-based documentary John Holmes: the Man, the Myth, the Legend (2004) --- some of the interviews in it seem more than a little staged/rehearsed, but generally, it offers a far less glossy, romanticized or factually inaccurate version of events than presented elsewhere:
    http://imdb.com/title/tt0436452/

    Be aware that there are both R-rated and unrated versions of the DVD - obviously, the latter contains the real substance!!

    There's a two-and-a-half-minute long promo/trailer available as a .wmv file at:
    http://www.redluci.com/images/trailer.wmv
     
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    Thank you alex8! I will obtain that film. As a guy who grew up in Southern California and who has always been somewhat fascinated with the porn industry, the life and times of John C. Holmes are irretrievably intertwined with the San Fernando Valley based adult film business. Looking at that trailer I couldn't help but smile at the 60 minutes-like format with Charlie Sheen's ex-girlfriend Ginger Lynn Allan looking like she just took a shopping trip to Nordstrom's and Bill Margold, and old performer who has shifted his role to "adult archivest and historian" in his chubby, Hawaiian shirt wearing middle age.

    I feel guilty that you, a German, were able to find out this information more easily than I. On the other hand, Europeans are so much less Puritanical about porn, nudity and sexual morality. On my last trip through (FRA) Frankfurt I went over to the porn shop located right in the terminal. And almost bought some, but ended up going on LH450 without a purchase. Try to imagine a porno shop at LAX or ORD!!!
     
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    I had the same kind of late teen experience at txquis, and John Holmes made a considerable impression on me at that time too...I'd never seen a cock that massive, it seemed unbelievable huge.

    When I look at pics of him now I'm struck at how 'ordinary' his cock looks compared with my early memories of him, sure it's big, but compared to more recent porn guys like Mandingo I think JH now looks pretty mundane.

    cheers

    Dillon
     
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    Have always liked watching a horse-hung guy enjoy his cock...it's corny, but there's a lot of cock.
    Not unlike Rocco Siffredi, where you can see all of the studs huge hard cock in action, heavy erect when he walks around.....!!!
     

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    You know, for the life of me I don't understand the idolization of John Holmes still after all these yrs he's been dead. From what I've inferred from an A&E special, he really wasn't you'd have called a model citizen. Drug dealing, forcing his GF to prostitute herself to feed his/their habit. Trying to rip off a coke lord back in seventies and almost got killed in the process.

    And then in the closing yrs of his career, starred bareback in gay films, one with a co-star who was known to be HIV positive/have full blown AIDS, which killed him, And then the cherry on top was that Holmes kept working even tho he knew he was infected.

    And what about his cock size? OK, if you're 15, and naiv'e about porn, then at that time, 10" was gargantuan. If you view it nowadays, pfft. Holmes'd be SOL, if he had lived, and be a fucking 60 yr old geriatric.
     
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    Some John Holmes enthusiasts in here I see. I've enjoyed watching most of his films. Must have gotten thousands of nutts watching him tag that damn pussy (which was better performed than his gay film). In this video clip introduced on this thread, I have to say it's one of the best I've EVER seen him do. His dick was hard (he must have really liked this girl) and rather than sliding in and out, he threw in some rare gyrations that must have surely turned this girl on. He also managed to stuff ALL his meat in her which wasn't too common for him. From all I've learned of him, the adult films are the best part we'll ever know of John Holmes.
     
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    While the movie "Wonderland" is very, very dark, it is a great movie with everyone in it playing against type. It is probably a pretty accurate portrayl of his involvement in the Wonderland murders. Never any question that he was there, but as I recall he was no billed by the Grand Jury, but I may have just dreamed the last part. Check out "Wonderland".
     
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    I enjoy the vintage porn...but that may be because I enjoy vintage everything. John Holmes was in fact, my first introduction to what a huge dick really was, and it's forever embedded in my memory, almost like a first concert, or first guitar. It holds a special place in my heart. (By that I mean pants)

    Sure, I've seen guys bigger than him in porn since. Some massively bigger than him. I don't agree with the 10" measurement, but that's what everyone seems to concur. Not to mention "Boogie Nights" furthering the myth/exaggeration of double digit penises.

    Still, since he was the first famous dude with a giant member, that's what people will remember him for. It's almost like the first girl you fucked. It may not have been great, it may not have been suave, but I'll bet my nutsack that it left an everlasting impression about sex on you, and you won't ever forget it.
     
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    John Holmes was in fact, my first introduction to what a huge dick really was, and it's forever embedded in my memory

    Now that sounds a painful place a have a cock embedded!
     
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