John lewis calls trump "not our legitimate president."

[Chrysippus]

I went out of my way to illustrate what I mean by the word "intuition"... a collective of logic and reason based on evidence.
1). Knowing the origination and processes that shaped the individual or organization
2). Knowing the history (of said individual or organization) or gaining knowledge of past methods and experiences
3). Extrapolating that data against Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
to then discover the various outcomes... that are subsequently weighed for probability

Again, this faculty operates within an individual, but it is not evidentiary for the logical persuasion of others.
Your 'intuitive ideations' may be beneficial (or not) to you, but they do not --and should not--persuade others: if you claim that they do, then you would be offering your services as an oracle, and the LPSG politics forum isn't Delphi or Dodona. Again, you keep adducing irrelevancy, like Maslow and his HoN.

Back to the thread topic: your post's assertions about 'Lewis the hit man' and his involvement in neoCon/neoLib conspiracy are unproven, undocumented and fantastical ideations, which you rationally and logically have failed to establish as credible.

Chrysippus out.

 

[185248]

The topic of this thread is John Lewis.

Umm, yes, but it's also his reason for not attending the inauguration. The CIA intelligence. I admit, I had not heard of the fellow, yet when I looked up why he did not wish to attend, the main reason was because of Russian Interference. That is what I thought the thread was all about, his main reasons for not attending anyway.

Anyway, now it's a foregone conclusion.

Again I will state, I really do not believe any politician. I have talked with the elderly all my life. My job as a builder leads me not into peoples homes, but into their personal family life and finaces. I have come across some very bigoted individuals, believe me

One thing oldies...and now I am nearly one... Is never believe or trust any government. A little paranoid in advice I suppose and perhaps which directs me to ask questions from all sides of politics.

I will never expect miracles from politicians. I look at the reasons why they ventured into it in the first place, their input, their willingness not to let go of their ideals for the sake of keeping power.

Then there are those who are all smoke and mirrors. I still do not think Donald Trump realises the diplomatic or importance of his place he volunteered for.

 

[tripod]

Your post's assertions about 'Lewis the hit man' and his involvement in NeoCon/NeoLib conspiracy are unproven, undocumented and fantastical ideations, which you rationally and logically have failed to establish as credible.

The problem with this the fact that there are some knowns here. We are looking for z which is unknown...but is it really unknown if we already have x and y?

The Democratic Party's leadership is decidedly Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative... those veins run deep. You might not like the cold hard truth of this reality, but it is not up for debate... it is just not something that Democrats talk about in "polite conversation".

So to speak of a Neo-Conservative and Neo-Liberals cabal or conspiracy... I am simply speaking of the DNC leadership and their donors/controllers. The DNC itself is one big fucking conspiratorial group of sneaky-agent provocateurs . Obviously the GOP is also... an altogether separate collective of like minded Neo-Liberals and Neo-Conservtaives (that work for a similar group of donors/controllers)... but I am not pontificating on the Republicans right now.

Every single decision that the DNC makes is a conspiratorial action... members of the committee conspire together in secret. The Wikileaks document trove proves that the DNC operates in a duplicitous manner... they have one "face" for their base and the public yet they have another "face" that is only seen in private or secret. Thus the outrageous indignation when they were caught red handed and the need for an obfuscating narrative (the Russians "did it") in order to re-direct the public's attention away from their secrecy and conspiratorial way of operating.

So... there IS a Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative conspiracy and it's rather plainly known as the "The DNC leadership".

So, that's not in contention. if you need to go refresh your mind on what a Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative is, then I would do so at this point rather than rush in and foolishly deny that the DNC's leadership has deep Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative roots and current ties. Their legislature, policies and platforms reflect Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative ideologies to the very letter... again, this is not in contention even though no Democrat is allowed to speak of this openly in the party.

And to think that John Lewis' hit jobs on Bernie and Trump weren't carefully orchestrated operations by the DNC is just fucking naive and childish... your assertion that a "press conference" is a spontaneous event where DNC leaders speak off-the-cuff and unrehearsed is ridiculous... the notion that any DNC leader would go on a National News show without a carefully constructed narrative and talking points strains the rational mind... I don't but it and it's ridiculous.

I don't fucking need to prove that John Lewis rehearses a carefully created set of talking points before he speaks on a politics show or during a press conference. To think otherwise is ludicrous.

I also don't need to prove that the DNC leadership and their wealthy donors don't decide on the actual content of those carefully created set of talking points... to think otherwise would be defying logic.

And for you to be blind at this point to the Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative control over the DNC leadership... just means that there is something woefully wrong with your assessment and knowledge of the depth of Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative principles within the DLC/Third Way.

My assertions reflect common sense and logic... I stand by them 100%. Your ability to prove otherwise is non-existent other than your feigned incredulity. You know I am right... you just can't admit it because then YOU'D be wrong.

 

[Klingsor]

Clearly I'm being facetious with all this. I thought for sure the firing squad on the White House lawn would indicate as much. Even tossed in a good old fashioned ring kissing. No luck. You liberals are permanently butt hurt and looking for anything, regardless of how ridiculous it is, to bellyache and whine about.

Your call for a White House lawn firing squad was clearly facetious; your explanation of why Lewis challenging Trump's legitimacy was worse than Trump challenging Obama's, not so much.

But as you wish, I will endeavor to discern, as with Trump himself, whether at any given moment you are to be taken literally, seriously, or neither.

 

[Chrysippus]

The problem with this the fact that there are some knowns here. We are looking for z which is unknown...but is it really unknown if we already have x and y?

The Democratic Party's leadership is decidedly Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative... those veins run deep. You might not like the cold hard truth of this reality, but it is not up for debate... it is just not something that Democrats talk about in "polite conversation".

So to speak of a Neo-Conservative and Neo-Liberals cabal or conspiracy... I am simply speaking of the DNC leadership and their donors/controllers. The DNC itself is one big fucking conspiratorial group of sneaky-agent provocateurs . Obviously the GOP is also... an altogether separate collective of like minded Neo-Liberals and Neo-Conservtaives (that work for a similar group of donors/controllers)... but I am not pontificating on the Republicans right now.

Every single decision that the DNC makes is a conspiratorial action... members of the committee conspire together in secret. The Wikileaks document trove proves that the DNC operates in a duplicitous manner... they have one "face" for their base and the public yet they have another "face" that is only seen in private or secret. Thus the outrageous indignation when they were caught red handed and the need for an obfuscating narrative (the Russians "did it") in order to re-direct the public's attention away from their secrecy and conspiratorial way of operating.

So... there IS a Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative conspiracy and it's rather plainly known as the "The DNC leadership".

So, that's not in contention. if you need to go refresh your mind on what a Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative is, then I would do so at this point rather than rush in and foolishly deny that the DNC's leadership has deep Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative roots and current ties. Their legislature, policies and platforms reflect Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative ideologies to the very letter... again, this is not in contention even though no Democrat is allowed to speak of this openly in the party.

And to think that John Lewis' hit jobs on Bernie and Trump weren't carefully orchestrated operations by the DNC is just fucking naive and childish... your assertion that a "press conference" is a spontaneous event where DNC leaders speak off-the-cuff and unrehearsed is ridiculous... the notion that any DNC leader would go on a National News show without a carefully constructed narrative and talking points strains the rational mind... I don't but it and it's ridiculous.

I don't fucking need to prove that John Lewis rehearses a carefully created set of talking points before he speaks on a politics show or during a press conference. To think otherwise is ludicrous.

I also don't need to prove that the DNC leadership and their wealthy donors don't decide on the actual content of those carefully created set of talking points... to think otherwise would be defying logic.

And for you to be blind at this point to the Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative control over the DNC leadership... just means that there is something woefully wrong with your assessment and knowledge of the depth of Neo-Liberal and Neo-Conservative principles within the DLC/Third Way.

My assertions reflect common sense and logic... I stand by them 100%. Your ability to prove otherwise is non-existent other than your feigned incredulity. You know I am right... you just can't admit it because then YOU'D be wrong.

Yawn...