John McCain: USA PATRIOT (ACTor)

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Despite McCain's empty rhetoric about his not representing a third term for GWB, his actual policy positions tell an entirely different story.

The fact of the matter is, McCain is very hawkish and very much a student of the GOP school of fearmongering...and as these remarks make clear, he has no qualms about continuing to disregard the Constitutional rights of American citizens as well as separation of governmental powers.

McCain not only parrot's GWB's highly erroneous Article II justification for disregarding due process, he believes that corporations in the telecom industry who facilitated these egregious breaches of the public trust should be granted retroactive immunity from prosecution for their criminal acts.

So, a vote for John McCain is a vote in support of continuing this pervasive culture of fear and of governmental processes operating in the shadows, answerable to no public authority.
 
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politics are the biggest waste of time..
all these threads are the same, one big war, give it a few hours and this one will be 10 pages long, filled with the usual suspects, quoting, copying and pasting passages , arguing about nothing, and when all else fails, few of you will resort to attacking each others english skills, enjoy.
 

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fatcock84 said:
Isn't what you are doing fear mongering?

Not at all.

politics are the biggest waste of time..

If you aren't interested in participating in the political processes, that's your prerogative.

I would contend, however, that the greater waste of time is speaking up only to tell others what a waste of time it is. :rolleyes:
 

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i wasted 10 seconds writting that, you are about to waste hours arguing with people about nothing, only to do it all over again in a similar thread the next day...these political threads get out of control, fast, on here
now, whos wasting time?
 

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Despite McCain's empty rhetoric about his not representing a third term for GWB, his actual policy positions tell an entirely different story.

The fact of the matter is, McCain is very hawkish and very much a student of the GOP school of fearmongering...and as these remarks make clear, he has no qualms about continuing to disregard the Constitutional rights of American citizens as well as separation of governmental powers.

McCain not only parrot's GWB's highly erroneous Article II justification for disregarding due process, he believes that corporations in the telecom industry who facilitated these egregious breaches of the public trust should be granted retroactive immunity from prosecution for their criminal acts.

So, a vote for John McCain is a vote in support of continuing this pervasive culture of fear and of governmental processes operating in the shadows, answerable to no public authority.


The problem here is you are claiming “highly erroneous Article II justification for disregarding due process” but then the jury is still out on that one so that kinda ruins your whole sky-is-falling scenario rather quickly. :rolleyes:

What’s next, you gonna tell us George didn’t have just cause attacking Iraq even though Saddam was shooting at American jets in the no-fly zones set up after his surrender? LOL! :smile:
 

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now, whos wasting time?

Obviously you still are.

The problem here is you are claiming “highly erroneous Article II justification for disregarding due process” but then the jury is still out on that one

Nonsense. There is nothing in that Article that could be reasonably construed to authorize the POTUS to disregard due process. If you believe otherwise, please cite the section and explain.
 

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Politics are the biggest waste of time..
All these threads are the same, one big war, give it a few hours and this one will be 10 pages long, filled with the usual suspects, quoting, copying and pasting passages , arguing about nothing, and when all else fails, few of you will resort to attacking each others English skills, enjoy.< run-on sentence

I think you probably meant to say 'a few'. Few doesn't really fit your implied context does it?
 

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What&#8217;s next, you gonna tell us George didn&#8217;t have just cause attacking Iraq

Since you brought it up...no, he didn't. While that's old-hat to most people with half a brain in their heads, it appears the political 'fraidy-cats are gathering their proof that his justification was carefully fabricated and are finally speaking up.

The hope is but a glimmer in the distance, but we may yet see that motherfucker impeached and convicted for his crimes.
 

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Obviously you still are.

Nonsense. There is nothing in that Article that could be reasonably construed to authorize the POTUS to disregard due process. If you believe otherwise, please cite the section and explain.


OK, Lets make this easy and spin it another way

QUESTION: If you allegedly have as clear-cut of a case as you claim you do then how come you are not demanding you congressmen and senators impeach Bush immediately?

ANSWER: Because you do not have a clear-cut case! :rolleyes:
 

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i wasted 10 seconds writting that, you are about to waste hours arguing with people about nothing, only to do it all over again in a similar thread the next day...these political threads get out of control, fast, on here
now, whos wasting time?

He's not worth arguing with even about hot air, because he will definitely do exactly as you've said. He lives for these threads.
 

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Since you brought it up...no, he didn't. While that's old-hat to most people with half a brain in their heads, it appears the political 'fraidy-cats are gathering their proof that his justification was carefully fabricated and are finally speaking up.

The hope is but a glimmer in the distance, but we may yet see that motherfucker impeached and convicted for his crimes.

LOL! Again, you allegedly have this alleged clear-cut case but no game! QUESTION: Why isn’t Bush convicted & impeached for this? Answer: Because Bush cannot be convicted & impeached for this! Get it Mister **alleged** More-Than-Half-A-Brain? :biggrin1:
 

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LOL! Again, you allegedly have this alleged clear-cut case but no game! QUESTION: Why isn’t Bush convicted & impeached for this? Answer: Because Bush cannot be convicted & impeached for this! Get it Mister **alleged** More-Than-Half-A-Brain? :biggrin1:

I see someone learned a new vocabulary word in class today... :rolleyes:

Come back when they explain to you the distinction between cannot and might not.
 

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see... exactly as i said in my first post, time to argue about each others english... same old shit... does it ever get old?

I couldn't care less about his syntax...my point was to illustrate the ironic juxtaposition of his repeated invocations of allegation against his absolute declaration of cannot.

That you required explanation of this speaks volumes...