John McCain: War Obsessed, Idiot

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  1. B_ScaredLittleBoy

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    War obsessed: YouTube - Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran

    Idiot: YouTube - McCain Accidentally Agrees with Murtha About Voters in PA

    Someone find me a video where he discusses solutions to economic or social problems or anything besides war; something that might justify his candidacy or justify his support.

    Or are his supporters really just religious fanatics who don't care about the country they live in yet strangely care about fighting wars in far off countries.

    You cannot argue against McCain's obvious LACK of economic know-how or his war-centric philosophy. Not with logic and reason anyway. So STFU. McCain is on the same mental level as Bush. That is, one step up from flatlining.
     
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    McCain's national political career is over. Try to dig-up something good on Palin.
     
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    John McCain's not an idiot. I'm not so sure about Rick Davis.
     
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    Maybe he isn't an idiot but he is certainly in no way superior to Obama. The American people have voted and they have shown that in politics, its policies that matter. Crazy, I know.

    Character assassinations and smear campaigns against the other side do no good if your side; the alternative, are offering jack shit in the way of actual beneficial and radical policy.

    I think everyone has seen this:

    YouTube - Sarah Palin Can't Name a Newspaper She Reads

    You can tell she reads every newspaper in the world. The comics sections.

    I am just fed up of the anti-Obama sentiments. They are uncalled for and always unjustified. To anyone who thinks McCain would do a better job than Obama:

    What, in terms of policy, would McCain offer the country that Obama isn't?

    I think you'll find that Obama is focused on domestic policy and McCain has only ever commented vaguely on fantastical forgeign policy which singularly involves waging war.
     
  5. houtx48

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    if mcsame is so smart why could'nt he get elected, maybe because of his Rhodes Scholar running mate. Was Palin W in drag?
     
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    I agree. It seemed he learned absolutely nothing from Terry McAuliffe and company, as his handling of the campaign was oddly similar...and delivered identical results.
     
  7. Phil Ayesho

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    McCain is not an idiot... but he sure as hell is not a brilliant man.

    Obama is certifiably brilliant.


    McCain is also very old.
    The brain gets brittle and progressively loses the ability to form new associations as we age.

    The term "set in his ways" is universally applied to those of advancing years.

    McCain's 'experience' of war is 40 years old.

    This is a new world of entirely different tensions and entirely different armaments.
    New thinking is called for...
    Not the old warhorse solutions with which McCain is comfortably familiar.
     
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    McCain is a functioning retard in the subjects of economics and business. You'll get no argument from me here. Social problems...I'll stay away from that one.

    Some of his supporters are religious fanatics. I doubt that they dismiss or disregard the well-being of the country. 'Fighting wars' isn't what conservatives support, but defending U.S. interests is.

    Most of his supporters on not religious fanatics, but rather those that support fiscal conservatism. Please, don't respond with "borrow and spend" talking points. I'm disgusted by the deficit spending of the Republicans in recent history.

    Maybe. We'll let Obama work on economic solutions. To date, I've not heard any economic solutions from his camp, either.
     
  9. Phil Ayesho

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    If so, then you should have voiced that displeasure by withdrawing your support for the party.

    Blind allegieance to a party over your own principles is WHY the republicans drifted so far into the red, economically.

    Had conservatives voted out those republicans enacting the borrow and spend agenda... the ones DAMAGING U.S. interest thru excessive and ill considered military actions that accomplished no useful goal...

    Then the republican party would have been moved toward center and back to the basics of TRUE fiscal conservatism.


    Your party does what YOU enable it to thru your support.

    True party loyalty HOLDS the people elected to the standards to which you demand they adhere.
    Or kicks them out of office.

    The republican party is precisely what those who vote for them allow them to be.

    YOU control your party... but you do so by being willing, in a hot new york second, to vote against them to make your will known.

    While I tend to be liberal in most social issues... I have voted against the democrats whenever I feel they are not living up to MY expectations of them.

    That is true patriotism... keeping faith with principle... not party.

    If you want to get someplace... you don't let the car steer itself.
     
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    And war has changed. And the methods have changed. In Vietnam, the 'enemy" would not play "fair", using woman and children as bait or killers.

    And McCain was largely absent from that war.

    He should just relax as best he can.
     
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    If casting a vote boiled down to single policy issue and we lived in a vacuum, you may have a point.

    To that end, have you considered this question:

    Disclaimer: I am not taking a position, just posing a question.

    How many acts of worldwide military aggression, wars, deployments, conflicts, etc. have been avoided or prevented by our action and occupation with respect to Afghan and Iraq? How many future acts of wwide aggression toward U.S. interests have been avoided?

    Sure, its impossible to answer, but it's food for thought.
     
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    McCain is one thing, but Palin is much worse, and the bad thing she's still young and wants more power.
     
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    You don't avoid an act of military aggression by committing acts of military aggression. Nor do you prevent an act of military aggression when you commit such an act. You fan the flames of hatred towards your nation when you do so. You justify retaliation against you and condemnation of your actions. In disregarding the Powell doctrine George W. Bush showed what a foolhardy, genocidal, warmongering idiot he was.

    http://www.lpsg.org/1553261-post7.html

    Powell Doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Under your explanation there is never any justification for war.:rolleyes:
     
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    "George W. Bush showed what a foolhardy, genocidal, warmongering idiot he was.".................bush is even sure what most of those words mean much less being any of them.
     
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    News flash...Obama won. You can get off your soapbox as I'm sure we are all beyond sick and tired of this by now.
     
  17. Phil Ayesho

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    Impossible questions are not food for thought... they are mental dodges and diversionary tactics meant to evade real argument.

    In your question you are essentially saying that we have PREVENTED war thru WAGING WAR...
    That, in itself, is self contradictory on its face.

    YOu can not claim that you have save ANYTHING nor ANYONE... at most, you can claim you have changed the names of WHO is being killed and WHERE war is being waged.

    I can take ANY 6 year period prior to this and find that the amount of total war and terrorism related deaths has been remarkably consistent... 500,000 deaths LESS, on average, than the most recent 6 year period.

    That shows clearly that American Agression has INCREASED the horror and killing and maiming in the world, not reduced it.

    It has INFLAMED anti American feeling... increasing the number and resolve of those intent on harming us in the future.


    Stop IMAGINING boogiemen.


    I KNOW Clinton helped put an end to killing in Bosnia. I know he did nothing to help in Rwanda.


    But only a fool counts IMAGINARY successes by hypothesizing threats that NEVER happened and claiming they never happened because we spent a trillion dollars killing innocents.
     
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    And this summarily describes [perfectly] Clinton's ambivalence toward Bin Ladin and the ensuing 9/11. Carry on, Phil.
     
  19. Phil Ayesho

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    God you are uninformed.


    Clinton IDENTIFIED Bin Laden as a major threat. WAY Back when republicans still thought he was their MUJAHIDEEN BUDDY.

    Clinton tracked him and Clinton launched MISSLES at the guy back when W. was cashing checks from the Bin Laden family.

    REPUBLICANS denounced Clinton's attacks on AlQueda as an attempt to divert attention from their BLOWJOB inquest.
    Now THAT was focusing on national security for ya...
    While Osama is building a terror network... Clinton had the guy under surveillance and under attack... and republicans were too busy spending tax dollars investigating an illicit cocksucking to be bothered with an emerging threat to the nation.

    And they have proven themselves to be no more on top of things in the ensuring 8 years, haven't they?


    AND - when Clinton HANDED OVER critical intelligence to Bush DETAILING Al Queda's fundraising, recruitment, and intent to attack within the US...
    'What did BUSH and Condi do?

    Did they have ONE SINGLE MEETING?... ONE SINGLE CONFERENCE CALL concerning the intelligence that TOLD them Bin Laden was the single largest threat they were facing?

    No... for 8 months, the Bush adminsitration totally IGNORED the threat spelled out in Clinton adminsitration documents SPECIFICALLY put together to bring Bush up to speed on how dangerous al queda was.


    So- seriously... stop with the Limbaug/Orielly lie factory.


    You are just pulling ignorant shit right outta your ass.


    The same stupid fucks that thought a good use of cognressional attention was persecuting a sitting president for 8 years are the same stupid fucks that, once in total power... did not one fuicking thing to keep Ameirca safe... and have, since the attack,doen EVERYTHING Bin Laden HOPED they would do to further Bin Laden's agenda.

    All he could do was knock down some buildings...

    It took REPUBLICAN REACTIONARY IDIOCY and GREED to bring down the whole country.

    Nice going.
    Thanks...

    Learn from your errors- or suffer them all over again.
     
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    Bin Ladin was an outcast from his Saudi family. Your liberal conspiracy-theory edict has been disproven countless times.

    Clinton did nothing of the sort. He deserved a good blowjob, I could care less. How was Clinton 'attacking' Bin Ladin again? You've spent too many hours gazing into a computer screen, Phil.

    How many more terrorist attacks on U.S. soil? Um.....none.


    Is this kinda like Clinton acknowledging the WMD's in Iraq? Na, not really because he dismissed Al Queda as a threat.

    Clinton wanted a 'conference call' to circumvent the dangers exacted by Al Queda? During his blowjobs from fat chicks, he couldn't reach the button?

    Was the Clinton admin on vacation from foreign policy for its last 18 months? [puking]

    Touche'
     
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