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Am I supposed to have stats or a research paper or something? I’m certainly not about the write down the very long list of names. About two-thirds of guys who do gay porn for at least a couple of years and initially presented themselves as strictly “straight” and “gay4pay” have later (in interviews or their social media’s) talked about having some non hetero dimensions, or later confessed to being willing to indulging non hetero behaviors without money being involved, or later embraced gay, bi, pan, fluid, queer identities, or later claimed that they “don’t believe in labels”. At this point, it’s a very predictable pattern. The list of guys who enter the industry and do mostly non hetero porn for years yet maintain a strict “straight” and “gay4pay” presentation is a much shorter list.

Identity in and out of porn (but especially in sex work) is often used more for the sake of sociology, ego and image. Most people who enter sex work and stick with it for years don’t mind sexually engaging with whoever. And many, if not most, contend with degrees of fluidity, contradictions, paraphiliacs, hyper sensitive sexuality, uncertainty about their place in the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum. Once again, it’s become a cliche.
Where does the two-thirds figure come from though? Am I asking a difficult question here? I just want to know if you're guessing, if this is just your opinion or if you have some facts you're basing your paragraphs of analysis on.
 
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Where does the two-thirds figure come from though? Am I asking a difficult question here? I just want to know if you're guessing, if this is just your opinion or if you have some facts you're basing your paragraphs of analysis on.
Forget it, it's clear you're guessing.
 

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Where does the two-thirds figure come from though? Am I asking a difficult question here? I just want to know if you're guessing, if this is just your opinion or if you have some facts you're basing your paragraphs of analysis on.

It’s definitely not an opinion or guesswork. If you’ve kinda kept up with porn performers over the years you’d know that the majority of guys who initially hype up “straightness” and being “gay4pay” while doing homo/non-hetero porn for years later talk about having dimensions, or “not believing in labels”, or how they’re just “sexual beings”, or experiencing degrees of fluidity, or indulging non hetero behaviors without money being involved, or they eventually embrace a gay, bi, pan, fluid, queer identity. Are there guys who are fully and legitimately “straight” and hetero and “gay4pay”? Yes. But based on what most of these guys reveal themselves throughout the years (not me guessing), the majority have queer dimensions/are in the gender, sexual, affection, affirmation, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum. And that’s just the guess who talk about it.

But it’s not about identities or sexual dimensions. Using “straight” and “gay4pay” as the primarily way to promote yourself and get attention is dated and plays directly into “straight” worship, hetero superiority, homo insecurities, gay shame. If anything, y’all are the ones living in a fantasy and are the types that these guys are targeting with that type of self-promotion. So, do y’all.
 

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I actually used to believe the theory that almost 50% of dudes who indulge gay porn are “straight” and hetero and “gay4pay”. However, with social media and the more these guys talk, it’s become apparent that most of these guys who initially present themselves that way simply aren’t what most people would consider “straight” and hetero and strictly “gay4pay”. They tend to have some dimensions/fluidity/are in the spectrum. That isn’t fantasy or wishing. That’s just reality. In fact, there’s been quite a few dudes who have said that they purposely presented themselves that way because a producer/site owner wanted them to or because they knew it’d get them more attention and opportunities. These dudes are well aware of the game.

I really don’t care about sexual dimensions, identities or guys who may not be entirely, conventionally “straight” and “gay4pay” being “straight presenting”. The issue I have are guys still leaning on “straightness” and non homo presentation to get attention, validation and to promote hetero superiority, homo inferiority and “gay” insecurities.
 

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Or maybe the gays are actually smarter than you think. Maybe we know what's up and subscribe simply because some of these models are hot and as bonus, we get to laugh about the ridiculous fantasy. Most of us are not stupid you know.
I actually used to believe the theory that almost 50% of dudes who indulge gay porn are “straight” and hetero and “gay4pay”. However, with social media and the more these guys talk, it’s become apparent that most of these guys who initially present themselves that way simply aren’t what most people would consider “straight” and hetero and strictly “gay4pay”. They tend to have some dimensions/fluidity/are in the spectrum. That isn’t fantasy or wishing. That’s just reality. In fact, there’s been quite a few dudes who have said that they purposely presented themselves that way because a producer/site owner wanted them to or because they knew it’d get them more attention and opportunities. These dudes are well aware of the game.

I really don’t care about sexual dimensions, identities or guys who may not be entirely, conventionally “straight” and “gay4pay” being “straight presenting”. The issue I have are guys still leaning on “straightness” and non homo presentation to get attention, validation and to promote hetero superiority, homo inferiority and “gay” insecurities.
 
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I actually used to believe the theory that almost 50% of dudes who indulge gay porn are “straight” and hetero and “gay4pay”. However, with social media and the more these guys talk, it’s become apparent that most of these guys who initially present themselves that way simply aren’t what most people would consider “straight” and hetero and strictly “gay4pay”. They tend to have some dimensions/fluidity/are in the spectrum. That isn’t fantasy or wishing. That’s just reality. In fact, there’s been quite a few dudes who have said that they purposely presented themselves that way because a producer/site owner wanted them to or because they knew it’d get them more attention and opportunities. These dudes are well aware of the game.

I really don’t care about sexual dimensions, identities or guys who may not be entirely, conventionally “straight” and “gay4pay” being “straight presenting”. The issue I have are guys still leaning on “straightness” and non homo presentation to get attention, validation and to promote hetero superiority, homo inferiority and “gay” insecurities.

I actually used to believe the theory that almost 50% of dudes who indulge gay porn are “straight” and hetero and “gay4pay”. However, with social media and the more these guys talk, it’s become apparent that most of these guys who initially present themselves that way simply aren’t what most people would consider “straight” and hetero and strictly “gay4pay”. They tend to have some dimensions/fluidity/are in the spectrum. That isn’t fantasy or wishing. That’s just reality. In fact, there’s been quite a few dudes who have said that they purposely presented themselves that way because a producer/site owner wanted them to or because they knew it’d get them more attention and opportunities. These dudes are well aware of the game.

I really don’t care about sexual dimensions, identities or guys who may not be entirely, conventionally “straight” and “gay4pay” being “straight presenting”. The issue I have are guys still leaning on “straightness” and non homo presentation to get attention, validation and to promote hetero superiority, homo inferiority and “gay” insecurities.

Yes. You do you and believe in whatever you believe in!

"STRAIGHT" men in gay porn always sell like pancakes so it's definitely a marketing strategy that works flawlessly thus it's being used over and over.

Porn is fantasy and their sexuality in real life DO NOT MATTER. It's possible that they may not be straight in real life but who cares. Just enjoy the good porn.

The only person who can tell his/her TRUE sexuality is the person himself/herself.
 

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Some folks really are that naive or that delusional or that caught up in their own fetishes and turn-ons. However, I’m aware that for many people it’s just self-aware fantasy and paraphiliacs. Many (if not most) queers know that probably the majority of these guys who hype up and promote “straightness” and being “gay4pay” are at the very least not conventionally, inherently heterosexual or in are somewhere in the gender, sexual, affection, affirmation, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum.

Then the question becomes why in 2022 do so many dudes still use “straight”, “gay4pay”, non-homo presentation to get attention, to build ego, to build a brand, as sociological protection? And why do so many queers still get off on the “straight fantasy”? I do mostly know the multiple reasons, but I’m not gonna get into it.

It would be easier to just dismiss it as mere porn/sex work fantasy if there wasn’t still so much male homophobia and internalized phobias in porn (and of course in the world in general) and if there still wasn’t so much queer mental health struggles, gay panic, gay resentments, “straight” and non-homo superiority views, people not knowing how to deal with fluidity, contradictions, hyper-sexuality. All of this makes stuff makes it difficult to view it as “just fantasy”, as it does effect and also feeds off of problems, whether you want to admit it or not. But I’m not here to kink/paraphiliac shame, just talk about reality.
 

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Some folks really are that naive or that delusional or that caught up in their own fetishes and turn-ons. However, I’m aware that for many people it’s just self-aware fantasy and paraphiliacs. Many (if not most) queers know that probably the majority of these guys who hype up and promote “straightness” and being “gay4pay” are at the very least not conventionally, inherently heterosexual or in are somewhere in the gender, sexual, affection, affirmation, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum.

Then the question becomes why in 2022 do so many dudes still use “straight”, “gay4pay”, non-homo presentation to get attention, to build ego, to build a brand, as sociological protection? And why do so many queers still get off on the “straight fantasy”? I do mostly know the multiple reasons, but I’m not gonna get into it.

It would be easier to just dismiss it as mere porn/sex work fantasy if there wasn’t still so much male homophobia and internalized phobias in porn (and of course in the world in general) and if there still wasn’t so much queer mental health struggles, gay panic, gay resentments, “straight” and non-homo superiority views, people not knowing how to deal with fluidity, contradictions, hyper-sexuality. All of this makes stuff makes it difficult to view it as “just fantasy”, as it does effect and also feeds off of problems, whether you want to admit it or not. But I’m not here to kink/paraphiliac shame, just talk about reality.
Sexual behaviour, sexual orientation and sexual identity are not the same thing. It's a triangle, and what you're describing is one corner (a dot).
 
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Some folks really are that naive or that delusional or that caught up in their own fetishes and turn-ons. However, I’m aware that for many people it’s just self-aware fantasy and paraphiliacs. Many (if not most) queers know that probably the majority of these guys who hype up and promote “straightness” and being “gay4pay” are at the very least not conventionally, inherently heterosexual or in are somewhere in the gender, sexual, affection, affirmation, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum.

Then the question becomes why in 2022 do so many dudes still use “straight”, “gay4pay”, non-homo presentation to get attention, to build ego, to build a brand, as sociological protection? And why do so many queers still get off on the “straight fantasy”? I do mostly know the multiple reasons, but I’m not gonna get into it.

It would be easier to just dismiss it as mere porn/sex work fantasy if there wasn’t still so much male homophobia and internalized phobias in porn (and of course in the world in general) and if there still wasn’t so much queer mental health struggles, gay panic, gay resentments, “straight” and non-homo superiority views, people not knowing how to deal with fluidity, contradictions, hyper-sexuality. All of this makes stuff makes it difficult to view it as “just fantasy”, as it does effect and also feeds off of problems, whether you want to admit it or not. But I’m not here to kink/paraphiliac shame, just talk about reality.

First and foremost I find it distasteful for you to associate anyone on this thread with paraphilia.

Secondly have you asked yourself why gay men and straight women are drawn to similar aesthetics and timbre in men? Have you studied why the natural disposition for gay men will always be an attraction to some form of a masculine presenting male? The fact is no matter how much social engineering society places on it’s populous those constants will remain the same. So yes, and by all means, let’s work harder at increasing visibility and acceptance for all gay men (including our feminine presenting brethren). But your fight against the social preferences of gay men are misplaced in my view.
 

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on another note- anybody have any idea why all the old ig posts on all brandtsboys accounts randomly got deleted? I remember a lot more pics being on there and now they're just gone
 
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Also on another note, is there a way to edit or delete your post or comment on here? Asking for a newbie friend.. :p

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Also on another note, is there a way to edit or delete your post or comment on here? Asking for a newbie friend.. :p
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