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Google ordered to hand over details of YouTube Users' Viewing Habits | Business | Sky News
I heard about this on Wednesday but have not had chance to read it fully ...
"It comes in a copyright infringement case brought last year by media giant Viacom which filed a $1bn lawsuit against the Google-owned video-sharing site.
Viacom, which owns MTV, Paramount Pictures and VH1 among others, demanded Google should hand over information about how people use the site.
It argued that the data would show that copyright-protected material was routinely posted and watched.
Viacom claimed that YouTube willfully infringed its copyright by letting users post clips without permission.
It also wants the data to prove that copyrighted "stolen" material is more popular among YouTube visitors than original "user-generated" material.
A federal judge has now ordered Google to divulge details of every video clip uploaded to the site, along with viewers' YouTube usernames and IP addresses.
An IP address identifies individual computers connected to the web but cannot be linked to a name or address without the help of an internet service provider.
YouTube usernames may identify individuals if people have signed up using their own names.
YouTube, citing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, argued it does not have to take down those clips until Viacom complains about each and every one.
Google had fought the request on privacy grounds and said it could not easily hand over its viewing logs due to the amount of data they contained.
Google must now turn over all its data about YouTube visitors as well as copies of all clips it has ever taken down."
This from InformationWeek.
"Google has to turn over millions of videos it has removed from the video-sharing site, user login IDs, records showing when users watched videos, their IP addresses, and numbers that identify the videos. The order applies not only to videos watched on YouTube but also to videos embedded on third-party Web sites."
I'm unclear as to the international scope of this ruling. I don't know much about IPR and while he may or may not have have ignored the letter of the VPPA (that legislation pre-date the WWW) I can't help but think Justice Stanton has overreached himself.
Google will undoubtably appeal, at least I hope they do, however (though I'm not conviced it fatally weakens their argument) in doing so they are at some risk of being hoist by their own petard:
"We … are strong supporters of the idea that data protection laws should apply to any data that could identify you. The reality is though that in most cases, an IP address without additional information cannot.”
The fact that Viacom demanded this information suggests they intend to seek said 'additional information' for the purposes of identification (of whom is unclear), otherwise what use is it? I'm not overly concerned that Viacaom will come knocking at my door; I'm not a big YouTube user nor do I believe any competent case could be made against individuals, I simply don't like the precedent.
There's an interesting Q&A here:
BBC NEWS | Technology | Q&A: Divulging YouTube log
I heard about this on Wednesday but have not had chance to read it fully ...
"It comes in a copyright infringement case brought last year by media giant Viacom which filed a $1bn lawsuit against the Google-owned video-sharing site.
Viacom, which owns MTV, Paramount Pictures and VH1 among others, demanded Google should hand over information about how people use the site.
It argued that the data would show that copyright-protected material was routinely posted and watched.
Viacom claimed that YouTube willfully infringed its copyright by letting users post clips without permission.
It also wants the data to prove that copyrighted "stolen" material is more popular among YouTube visitors than original "user-generated" material.
A federal judge has now ordered Google to divulge details of every video clip uploaded to the site, along with viewers' YouTube usernames and IP addresses.
An IP address identifies individual computers connected to the web but cannot be linked to a name or address without the help of an internet service provider.
YouTube usernames may identify individuals if people have signed up using their own names.
YouTube, citing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, argued it does not have to take down those clips until Viacom complains about each and every one.
Google had fought the request on privacy grounds and said it could not easily hand over its viewing logs due to the amount of data they contained.
Google must now turn over all its data about YouTube visitors as well as copies of all clips it has ever taken down."
This from InformationWeek.
"Google has to turn over millions of videos it has removed from the video-sharing site, user login IDs, records showing when users watched videos, their IP addresses, and numbers that identify the videos. The order applies not only to videos watched on YouTube but also to videos embedded on third-party Web sites."
I'm unclear as to the international scope of this ruling. I don't know much about IPR and while he may or may not have have ignored the letter of the VPPA (that legislation pre-date the WWW) I can't help but think Justice Stanton has overreached himself.
Google will undoubtably appeal, at least I hope they do, however (though I'm not conviced it fatally weakens their argument) in doing so they are at some risk of being hoist by their own petard:
"We … are strong supporters of the idea that data protection laws should apply to any data that could identify you. The reality is though that in most cases, an IP address without additional information cannot.”
The fact that Viacom demanded this information suggests they intend to seek said 'additional information' for the purposes of identification (of whom is unclear), otherwise what use is it? I'm not overly concerned that Viacaom will come knocking at my door; I'm not a big YouTube user nor do I believe any competent case could be made against individuals, I simply don't like the precedent.
There's an interesting Q&A here:
BBC NEWS | Technology | Q&A: Divulging YouTube log