Just A Wish For My Gay Brothers and Sisters in California

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  1. jason_els

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    It's my fervent hope that Prop 8 fails spectacularly and that you can all continue to live with marital equality. Good luck to you!

    Few things piss me off as much as rights denied.
     
  2. mindseye

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    Thanks for the word 'spectacularly'. I'm hoping to see this decided by such a wide margin that we don't have to deal with this issue again ... at least in California.
     
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    Amen. Means a lot to my partner of almost 24 years and I. We did not get married when it was overturned by the courts. We are waiting for a certain day in Feb of 2009 (our 24th anniversary) to marry. If straights can have their dream wedding why can't he and I?

    Thank you to everyone in CA that voted NO on Prop 8!

    Hope for the same outcome in other states that the issue has been brought up.
     
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    Don't count on it...

    Here in Oregon there's a booming cottage industry of placing, and re-placing, and re-re-placing the same types of voter initiatives on the ballot each cycle. Land use, tax, and civil rights measures soundly defeated in the past keep reappearing with frightening regularity.
     
  5. mindseye

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    Tru dat, but I suspect it's a lot more expensive to wage an initiative campaign in California than it is in Oregon.

    Still, if the LDS church wants to bankrupt themselves repeating this exercise over and over again, I won't be too sad over it.
     
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    And that will happen here in CA also.

    Why can't straight and gay unions all be classified as "civil unions" by the Federal Gov. and then if a couple wants they would be "married" in the eyes and church of their choice.

    That way the right wing can keep their holy roller attitudes to themselves.

    Sorry. Venting.
     
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    Yes, likely true. And much of the funding for the Oregon intiatives originates outside the state.
     
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    Good luck, hope it works out well. :)
     
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    That's actually a brilliant solution. I'm going to remember that the next time the argument arises.
     
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    Did it pass or fail?
     
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    Hey OCDreamer! I have proposed the same thing!

    Why is the government in the marriage business in the first place?

    We should all be able to partner with whom we choose to get the tax and legal benefits from the government.

    We should then choose to put said relationship on whatever spiritual path we want, NO MATTER WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS.

    I know that there would be a fuckin' firestorm if someone in power proposed taking marriage power out of the hands of the government, but this is the way things should be, IMO.
     
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    since marriage is a civil contract the church needs to butt out . if you want to get married in a church then that is up to the church. the wingnuts need to tend to their own business.
     
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    National Platform of the Libertarian Party

    Statement of Principles We, the members of the Libertarian Party, challenge the cult of the omnipotent state and defend the rights of the individual.

    1.3 Personal Relationships
    Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the rights of individuals by government, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.


     
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    It passed. Lawsuits to challenge it are pending.
     
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