Just Found Out Al Parker Was Actually Bisexual; don't know how to feel

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Exactly. In real life mostly nobody cares.
Good I hope so, not yet entered the dating scene... I guess i'm classed as a 'gold star gay' but it bothers me that i'm given some kind of title and placed upon some type of pedestal. It's like "well done here's your medal for never being with a woman" Comes across misogynistic, biphobic and honestly even homophobic. The idea that some gays have less value because they were exploring their sexuality.
 

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Your friend is bisexual. If he was really hetero/straight he wouldn't be having sex with men. Alcohol just removes peoples' inhibitions.
Hoss Kado the porn star is the same way, sexually he identifies as Omnisexual men women he'll do anything to or with them in the bedroom but he says romantically he's strictly straight he can see himself having a future or any romantic relationship with women only. I dont get it, doesnt make sense to me but hey it doesnt have to, that his life and his truth lol
 

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He got cut (circumcused) to boost his porn career or for attention when his cock was perfectly fine with no need for it to be done at all.
wow being circumcised as an adult....just the thought makes me cringe but to do it for that reason cause Ive seen alot of his porn from when he started to when he was older his dick was always big and sexy including the loads he shot out of them
 
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He got cut (circumcused) to boost his porn career or for attention when his cock was perfectly fine with no need for it to be done at all.
False.
He had surgery to reverse his infantile circumcision.
Lol wut? You know people lead private lives and that porn is edited/scripted right? I found Drew/Al to be boring in porn he would have sex in the same positions in almost every single scene, and the obsession he had with plain plastic SKY DAWSON-there is a porn where he has sex with men all wearing masks of Sky Dawson's face was super weird. Why have them pretend to be someone that they obviously are not? Oh and in the sky dawson mask porn Al never has sex with the porn guy he obsessed over despite directing it...

Drew Okum/Al Parker was like Chad Douglas versatile or versatile/bottom when they had sex away from porn and escorting where they were billed as "tops". How do you think they got pozzed and died super early from AIDS? Yes tops can and do get pozzed but the vast majority of men who get pozzed are versatile or bottom.
Oh, babe.
Al Parker died of chronic drug and alcohol abuse. Like most gay men who were labeled as AIDS deaths.
The supposed discrepancy between bottoms and tops does not make any sense. If Al Parker got it from bottoming, there was a top infected.
 
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Good I hope so, not yet entered the dating scene... I guess i'm classed as a 'gold star gay' but it bothers me that i'm given some kind of title and placed upon some type of pedestal. It's like "well done here's your medal for never being with a woman" Comes across misogynistic, biphobic and honestly even homophobic. The idea that some gays have less value because they were exploring their sexuality.
It isn't seen as "exploring sexuality" by "gold stars" but it is more like some of the "gold stars" think that they are "better than" or "more gay" or "not ignorant" as gay men and women who before they knew they are gay,or were closeted and not out had sex with the opposite sex. The old soap opera queer as folk the USA edition had an episode about this and I did meet some gay men and even lesbian women in bars and online who would basically brag about being "gold star" as some really weird source of pride or an ego boost. I have a gay friend who is 70 and he has never had sex with any women and said "Most gay men who are my age and from my generation who I met or knew were extremely discreet, many married or forced themselves to have sex with women as this was expected of us..."
 

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False.
He had surgery to reverse his infantile circumcision.

Oh, babe.
Al Parker died of chronic drug and alcohol abuse. Like most gay men who were labeled as AIDS deaths.
The supposed discrepancy between bottoms and tops does not make any sense. If Al Parker got it from bottoming, there was a top infected.
I was writing about how Arpad got cut.

Al Parker/Drew Okum died from HIV/AIDS. Were you even alive then? Most gay and bisexual men in porn and of that generation as well as other generations immediately after boomers like generation Jones born in the early 1960s to mid-late 1960s died from AIDS. HIV was around in the 1970s but thought to be a rare "cancer" or caused by amyl/poppers and cocaine. It wasn't until 1984 that the whole risk factor of HIV/AIDS infection was determined and even then it still kept changing. There was not even a test for HIV until 1985.

HIV takes 8-10 years in a person kill them if they are not medicated, stop meds completely by their choice, or the meds stop working, so the date of a death from AIDS can work back to the year of infection.

The use of alcohol and other hard and soft drugs did not help Drew/Al's immune system, and there are other factors as well such as if he skipped taking AZT, the meds stopped working as this did and still does happen, and kept having unsafe sex with other poz guys infecting each other with other strains of HIV, Hepatitis, etc. Keep in mind that almost all of the men Parker was in porn with were either already HIV+ or living with AIDS, or became infected by other men they did porn with, saw as escorts, or hooked up with as most gay men were not using condoms and even well into the late 1980s and early/mid 1990s there was a lot of denial that still happens today with the false idea that "If a guy is muscular, healthy, has a job and wants to date and is sexy and nice there is no way he could have HIV or anything else."

Actual medical professionals completely disagree with your HIV/AIDS denialism. I never wrote that a top cannot get pozzed by a bottom it does happen and can happen however bottoms for anal sex have the most risk.

Odds of Getting HIV From Anal Sex

Harfouch says the odds of transmitting HIV this way are between . 5 and 1.38 percent. The receptive (“bottom”) partner is 13 times more likely to get HIV than the insertive (“top”) partner, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
 

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I remember seeing Al Parker at the Woods, a gay resort in Guerneville,Ca. back in the mid 80's.
My bisexual friend met him sometime there in the early 1980s. No they didn't have sex. My friend was dating a guy or woman at the time, was very picky who he had sex with, was cautious/discreet/shy or intimidated around muscular fit men and "male models"/escorts. They knew mutual friends and just smoked pot and drank at a bar, talked, and swam together.
 

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I was writing about how Arpad got cut.

Al Parker/Drew Okum died from HIV/AIDS. Were you even alive then? Most gay and bisexual men in porn and of that generation as well as other generations immediately after boomers like generation Jones born in the early 1960s to mid-late 1960s died from AIDS. HIV was around in the 1970s but thought to be a rare "cancer" or caused by amyl/poppers and cocaine. It wasn't until 1984 that the whole risk factor of HIV/AIDS infection was determined and even then it still kept changing. There was not even a test for HIV until 1985.

HIV takes 8-10 years in a person kill them if they are not medicated, stop meds completely by their choice, or the meds stop working, so the date of a death from AIDS can work back to the year of infection.

The use of alcohol and other hard and soft drugs did not help Drew/Al's immune system, and there are other factors as well such as if he skipped taking AZT, the meds stopped working as this did and still does happen, and kept having unsafe sex with other poz guys infecting each other with other strains of HIV, Hepatitis, etc. Keep in mind that almost all of the men Parker was in porn with were either already HIV+ or living with AIDS, or became infected by other men they did porn with, saw as escorts, or hooked up with as most gay men were not using condoms and even well into the late 1980s and early/mid 1990s there was a lot of denial that still happens today with the false idea that "If a guy is muscular, healthy, has a job and wants to date and is sexy and nice there is no way he could have HIV or anything else."

Actual medical professionals completely disagree with your HIV/AIDS denialism. I never wrote that a top cannot get pozzed by a bottom it does happen and can happen however bottoms for anal sex have the most risk.

Odds of Getting HIV From Anal Sex

Harfouch says the odds of transmitting HIV this way are between . 5 and 1.38 percent. The receptive (“bottom”) partner is 13 times more likely to get HIV than the insertive (“top”) partner, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Oh, babe.
I am a medical professional, a physician, to be precise.
I am not gonna dive into the HIV/AIDS pseudoscience debate. I know I am Galilei and most of the medical establishment just a bunch of idiots, but who cares?
Just millions of bottoms suffering.
That's part of their nature. The same with women, who were the real victims of lobotomy a couple of decades ago.
Oh, it was Miklos you were referring to. Cool.
I thought you were referring to Al, who actually got the reverse of circumcision (of moderate success).
No, I am 30 years old. I was born in 1993, when the HIV/AIDS fear mongering fiasco was about to burst, like all western fiscal bubbles since the 1900's.
 

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Oh, babe.
I am a medical professional, a physician, to be precise.
I am not gonna dive into the HIV/AIDS pseudoscience debate. I know I am Galilei and most of the medical establishment just a bunch of idiots, but who cares?
Just millions of bottoms suffering.
That's part of their nature. The same with women, who were the real victims of lobotomy a couple of decades ago.
Oh, it was Miklos you were referring to. Cool.
I thought you were referring to Al, who actually got the reverse of circumcision (of moderate success).
No, I am 30 years old. I was born in 1993, when the HIV/AIDS fear mongering fiasco was about to burst, like all western fiscal bubbles since the 1900's.
Lol riiight. Oh I forgot this is the internet and anyone can pretend to be a doctor. No you are not Galileo Galilei.

Huh? It was not "fear mongering" about HIV/AIDS in the 1980s or early 1990s, or today. Millions of people died from HIV/AIDS, 10s of thousands are still dying from it-the newer meds have been incredible but a friend who has been poz with HIV since 1984 said how being HIV+ is akin to having terminal cancer in remission-and the majority of these people including my friend and people I have known who had AIDS and almost died from it or did die from HIV/AIDS were not into drinking and taking other drugs.

Lobotomies? They were nowhere near as common as you seem to believe, and in North America alone there were only just maybe 50,000 done if that.

Whatever med school you supposedly went to is useless. Have you ever known anyone who is poz, a "long term survivor", who died from HIV/AIDS?

Are you from a country where there is a lot of AIDS denialism like in Western Asia, Levant, Arabic/Palestinian, or Iran?

Drew/Al's "foreskin restoration" wasn't that successful there is some sensitivity regained in the glans or head of the cock but it is not a full and complete foreskin with all of the nerve endings, blood vessels, veins, etc.
 

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As someone who's biromantic, it's a breeze,your friend doesn't strike me as someone who has a problem unless he's dating them simulataneously without them knowing,now that's cheating,if not, maybe he just haven't found the right person yet. Heteroromantics bisexuals are the majority of bisexuals with biromantics bisexuals coming in second while homoromantics bisexuals are the rarest of bisexuals
Huh? What is with all of these sub-categories of bisexual: pansexual, homoromantic, heteroromantic, biromantic, etc.? Most bisexual people including myself do not do this much navel gazing in real life. Bisexual men and women who fall in love with both sexes/genders as I do and have, are not nearly as "rare" as you are claiming, and bisexuals who only fall in love with the same sex/gender are not "rare" either but as someone who once was like this for decades and had a bisexual ex BF who tends to be or is this way-that is not why we broke up we are still friends but we broke up because I moved very far away, were not married, engaged, or living together and I don't attempt long distance "relationships", it is not "rare" but many of us if we marry or partner do so with the same sex/gender and "pass" or have society or most people assume we are gay/homosexual or lesbian for the ladies...
 

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Huh? What is with all of these sub-categories of bisexual: pansexual, homoromantic, heteroromantic, biromantic, etc.? Most bisexual people including myself do not do this much navel gazing in real life. Bisexual men and women who fall in love with both sexes/genders as I do and have, are not nearly as "rare" as you are claiming, and bisexuals who only fall in love with the same sex/gender are not "rare" either but as someone who once was like this for decades and had a bisexual ex BF who tends to be or is this way-that is not why we broke up we are still friends but we broke up because I moved very far away, were not married, engaged, or living together and I don't attempt long distance "relationships", it is not "rare" but many of us if we marry or partner do so with the same sex/gender and "pass" or have society or most people assume we are gay/homosexual or lesbian for the ladies...
When I say rare,I mean compared to heteroromantic bisexuals,both biromantic and homoromantic are not as much as the heteroromantics and it makes sense since we live in a mostly heteronormative world and it's great to make those distinctions because like it or not,in a romantic setting,not all bisexuals are open to dating all sexes and it's ok
 

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When I say rare,I mean compared to heteroromantic bisexuals,both biromantic and homoromantic are not as much as the heteroromantics and it makes sense since we live in a mostly heteronormative world and it's great to make those distinctions because like it or not,in a romantic setting,not all bisexuals are open to dating all sexes and it's ok
I agree. These distinctions are not navel gazing. It's just observation of phenomena or trends. Nothing wrong with that. It helps clear up misconceptions if anything.

I'm tired of ignorant people assuming they know how bisexual people function and live (as if there is one size fits all for bisexual existence. Smh) and these breakdowns help to explain the differences.
 

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When I say rare,I mean compared to heteroromantic bisexuals,both biromantic and homoromantic are not as much as the heteroromantics and it makes sense since we live in a mostly heteronormative world and it's great to make those distinctions because like it or not,in a romantic setting,not all bisexuals are open to dating all sexes and it's ok

I agree. These distinctions are not navel gazing. It's just observation of phenomena or trends. Nothing wrong with that. It helps clear up misconceptions if anything.

I'm tired of ignorant people assuming they know how bisexual people function and live (as if there is one size fits all for bisexual existence. Smh) and these breakdowns help to explain the differences.
He's an older Kinsey-4, who very typically self-identifies as a Kinsey-3.
I can spot my people from outer space.
LMAO
I do agree. Adding the romanticity specifier is actually very important.
 

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Lol riiight. Oh I forgot this is the internet and anyone can pretend to be a doctor. No you are not Galileo Galilei.

Huh? It was not "fear mongering" about HIV/AIDS in the 1980s or early 1990s, or today. Millions of people died from HIV/AIDS, 10s of thousands are still dying from it-the newer meds have been incredible but a friend who has been poz with HIV since 1984 said how being HIV+ is akin to having terminal cancer in remission-and the majority of these people including my friend and people I have known who had AIDS and almost died from it or did die from HIV/AIDS were not into drinking and taking other drugs.

Lobotomies? They were nowhere near as common as you seem to believe, and in North America alone there were only just maybe 50,000 done if that.

Whatever med school you supposedly went to is useless. Have you ever known anyone who is poz, a "long term survivor", who died from HIV/AIDS?

Are you from a country where there is a lot of AIDS denialism like in Western Asia, Levant, Arabic/Palestinian, or Iran?

Drew/Al's "foreskin restoration" wasn't that successful there is some sensitivity regained in the glans or head of the cock but it is not a full and complete foreskin with all of the nerve endings, blood vessels, veins, etc.
I actually live in the country that is considered anything western's birthplace.
Physicians give an oath that was allegedly created by an ancestor of mine.
Well, I originate from Alex's momma's lands and he was from an island quite a few hundred miles apart. But ... You know Americans from New Jersey and Texas are both Americans. LOL
I am a physician, and I am not lying, but who cares?
As I've told you already, I know I am Galilei and most of the medical establishment is toilet paper doing more harm than good (ωφελέειν παρά μή βλάπτειν).
What's certain is I ain't taking any aging-accelerators any time soon. Poor bottoms do and they pay the consequences. Unfortunately.
 
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When I say rare,I mean compared to heteroromantic bisexuals,both biromantic and homoromantic are not as much as the heteroromantics and it makes sense since we live in a mostly heteronormative world and it's great to make those distinctions because like it or not,in a romantic setting,not all bisexuals are open to dating all sexes and it's ok
Huh? I am not sure where you are from but in and near large cities in the USA in the Northeast and West Coast both before and after Stonewall things were open, but most bisexual and gay men even those who were "out" until very recently were very discreet, and it was fine for European white bisexual and gay men and women to be out, but not for blacks, Hispanics/Latin Americans, Arabs, people from Levant, or Asians and in many countries and in these cultures it is still like this today.

Despite TQ revisionist fake historians' claims the "lavender scare" of the 1950s and early 1960s was over-exagerrated, the only people who were ever really at risk were gay and bisexual federal government employees, military/intelligence personnel, and Bruce Wayne like sex addicts addicted to cruising and public sex who had no idea how to be discreet and keep their sex life seperate from their public personal life.

I am friends with a bisexual author who was in both NYC, Philadelphia, Baltimore/DC, and later SF and L.A. both before and after Stonewall. He agrees with me and said how being bisexual or gay then was basically like being a marijuana smoker when it was illegal everywhere, and that the "oppression" narrative is exaggerated as the only thing gay and bisexual men were really struggling about was to find other out but discreet bisexual and gay sex partners and have sex with as many men as possible.

My father who is almost 90 worked in Philadelphia in the early 1950s and long before Stonewall with out gay men both in a corporate business in an extremely large national company, and of course in theater. Everyone at this very large company knew my dad's co-workers were homosexual and lovers who lived together. Of course they were open and would separately but discreetly cruise the bars, sex saunas/bath houses, YMCA, public gyms, theaters/cinemas, and city streets for other men to have sex with.

My parents are not homophobic or biphobic, they are heterosexual like the vast majority of the population of people are.

If you are not from here or were not alive then you wouldn't really know what it was like.
 

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I actually live in the country that is considered anything western's birthplace.
Physicians give an oath that was allegedly created by an ancestor of mine.
Well, I originate from Alex's momma's lands and he was from an island quite a few hundred miles apart. But ... You know Americans from New Jersey and Texas are both Americans. LOL
I am a physician, and I am not lying, but who cares?
As I've told you already, I know I am Galilei and most of the medical establishment is toilet paper doing more harm than good (ωφελέειν παρά μή βλάπτειν).
What's certain is I ain't taking any aging-accelerators any time soon. Poor bottoms do and they pay the consequences. Unfortunately.
Huh? Your writing is MISLEADING. What are the aging acceleration drugs? Do you mean Truvada AKA prep or pep? Are you poz or living with HIV/AIDS? Or do you mean bottoms who take prep or Truvada and think it always works and that there is no need to use condoms or practise safe sex at all?

I am technically a top but just use condoms and I refuse to take it as well as like all HIV meds it is excellent at keeping HIV from progressing to AIDS in people like my poz friends, but even they have said how the side effects are horrible and do not understand why anyone who is HIV NEG would take them daily. A different gay friend was on Truvada for possible exposure to HIV as a top and he said the drug has horrible side effects even at lower or more moderate doses and that he only took it to prevent HIV infection when he made the mistake of having unsafe sex as a top. No he does not drink or use other drugs.
 

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Huh? I am not sure where you are from but in and near large cities in the USA in the Northeast and West Coast both before and after Stonewall things were open, but most bisexual and gay men even those who were "out" until very recently were very discreet, and it was fine for European white bisexual and gay men and women to be out, but not for blacks, Hispanics/Latin Americans, Arabs, people from Levant, or Asians and in many countries and in these cultures it is still like this today.

Despite TQ revisionist fake historians' claims the "lavender scare" of the 1950s and early 1960s was over-exagerrated, the only people who were ever really at risk were gay and bisexual federal government employees, military/intelligence personnel, and Bruce Wayne like sex addicts addicted to cruising and public sex who had no idea how to be discreet and keep their sex life seperate from their public personal life.

I am friends with a bisexual author who was in both NYC, Philadelphia, Baltimore/DC, and later SF and L.A. both before and after Stonewall. He agrees with me and said how being bisexual or gay then was basically like being a marijuana smoker when it was illegal everywhere, and that the "oppression" narrative is exaggerated as the only thing gay and bisexual men were really struggling about was to find other out but discreet bisexual and gay sex partners and have sex with as many men as possible.

My father who is almost 90 worked in Philadelphia in the early 1950s and long before Stonewall with out gay men both in a corporate business in an extremely large national company, and of course in theater. Everyone at this very large company knew my dad's co-workers were homosexual and lovers who lived together. Of course they were open and would separately but discreetly cruise the bars, sex saunas/bath houses, YMCA, public gyms, theaters/cinemas, and city streets for other men to have sex with.

My parents are not homophobic or biphobic, they are heterosexual like the vast majority of the population of people are.

If you are not from here or were not alive then you wouldn't really know what it was like.
You tagged the wrong person
 

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He's an older Kinsey-4, who very typically self-identifies as a Kinsey-3.
I can spot my people from outer space.
LMAO
I do agree. Adding the romanticity specifier is actually very important.
Assume much? You know nothing about me, such as my age, where I am on the Kinsey scale at any current time-it changes as it does for all bisexual people, and in real life away from the internet, social media, hook up websites and later apps nobody that is out as bisexual uses the romantic sub-categories as a major personal identifying factor. We don't go around talking to strangers or friends and says 'My name is Karl and I am a HOMOROMANTIC KINSEY 4!'
 

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Huh? Your writing is MISLEADING. What are the aging acceleration drugs? Do you mean Truvada AKA prep or pep? Are you poz or living with HIV/AIDS? Or do you mean bottoms who take prep or Truvada and think it always works and that there is no need to use condoms or practise safe sex at all?

I am technically a top but just use condoms and I refuse to take it as well as like all HIV meds it is excellent at keeping HIV from progressing to AIDS in people like my poz friends, but even they have said how the side effects are horrible and do not understand why anyone who is HIV NEG would take them daily. A different gay friend was on Truvada for possible exposure to HIV as a top and he said the drug has horrible side effects even at lower or more moderate doses and that he only took it to prevent HIV infection when he made the mistake of having unsafe sex as a top. No he does not drink or use other drugs.
I ain't gonna debate anything about the HIV/AIDS pseudoscience in here. Mainly because this is somebody else's thread and the topic is completely irrelevant.
I am Greek. That is what I implied.
Assume much? You know nothing about me, such as my age, where I am on the Kinsey scale at any current time-it changes as it does for all bisexual people, and in real life away from the internet, social media, hook up websites and later apps nobody that is out as bisexual uses the romantic sub-categories as a major personal identifying factor. We don't go around talking to strangers or friends and says 'My name is Karl and I am a HOMOROMANTIC KINSEY 4!'
You are definitely older and you are definitely at least a Kinsey 4.
All this outrageously homophobic rant makes me even wonder if you are truly bisexual. But I have no clue and so I respect your self-identification.
The romantic aspect is a lot more important than the sexual aspect, because letting our dates know may help them proceed with or halt dating us, altogether. I have never told my hook-ups "You know what? I fuck both men and women, but I prefer gay men as partners", but this is something I almost always touch upon on my second dates, at least when I feel like I really like the other person.
What you are describing as continuous change is not true for hetero- and homoromantic bisexuals, only for biromantics.
PS. I don't really know if homoromantic Kinsey 4 is redundant. In my book, it is.