''just pumping away''

[Gillette]

You think parents should advise their kids on HOW to fuck???

Not perhaps the specific hip movements or tips on what to tweak and when but I think it would be beneficial if kids were taught more than tab A goes into slot B. How about fathers teaching boys that they should pay attention to their partners responses? How about mothers telling their daughters that it's okay to tell their partners what they want? How about either parent telling either child both things?

 

[RawDog]

What's sad is when I had to explain the female (and male) sexual do's and don'ts to a 24 year old co-worker when I took her out to lunch. She was the receptionist at our work, a gorgeous super-model type who unfortunately was well aware of that and flaunted it. I found out much later that she had slept with 37 guys.

What shocked me wasn't the number, it was how clueless she was about really basic things. Things like where is her clit, is she a freak because it gets hard when she gets turned on, where is her g-spot, what's the best place to lick on a guy's cock, etc. This wasn't a girl who was bashful either, she's also asked her other girlfriends and they were just as clueless.

Women can be just as clueless as men when it comes to this stuff.

 

[deleted356736]

Just think that in 'primitive' societies, there was this rite called initation, where they took sexually ready young men and young women and gave them advanced sexual education, which included which positions to use, how to pleasure their partners, and a lot more as well. Then they let these young men and women to have a go. Have we lost something?

 

[Mike7]

I agree with dolfette. Now the jackhammer is all fine and good when it's done right.

I agree if it's done right there is a time and place for the jackhammer.

 

[badgirl22]

Not perhaps the specific hip movements or tips on what to tweak and when but I think it would be beneficial if kids were taught more than tab A goes into slot B. How about fathers teaching boys that they should pay attention to their partners responses? How about mothers telling their daughters that it's okay to tell their partners what they want? How about either parent telling either child both things?

This sounds like sage advice to me. Why not teach them these things? I'm not sure why this would be a bad thing?

 

[Guy-jin]

Seriously, fathers or maybe even mothers need to have a sit down with their kid(s)--particularly boys--and go over some basics. Thank god I asked tons of questions and read a few things before becoming sexually active.

Yeah, that convo between mother and son about how to have sex. Wow, that sounds comfortable and not at all creepy...

 

[RawDog]

This sounds like sage advice to me. Why not teach them these things? I'm not sure why this would be a bad thing?

Creepiness factor aside, how would one go about that? I'm somewhat serious in that I'm thinking I'm in the wrong business and maybe *I* should do this for a living?

 

[dolfette]

Creepiness factor aside, how would one go about that? I'm somewhat serious in that I'm thinking I'm in the wrong business and maybe *I* should do this for a living?

hmmm...

all teens go porn hunting at some stage.
i think i might make sure they find a book on erotic, loving, responsible sex before they find pussypounder.com

 

[RawDog]

hmmm...

all teens go porn hunting at some stage.
i think i might make sure they find a book on erotic, loving, responsible sex before they find pussypounder.com

Good point, but the typical teen has the attention span of a gerbil. I think getting the whole Nina Hartley "Guide To" would be perfect?

 

[faceking]

how do us girls really feel about it?

i know a lot of guys think they're the studliest stud in the studiverse if they can keep pumping in and out for hours on end.

so, ladies, if he's just pumping away, the inning and outing and inning thing, nothing more, nothing less, what do we think?

As a jackhammer, I'm offended.

But curious, where is the studiverse located? Is it some existence where you perpetually have a test the next day to prepare for?

 

[Chase1600]

Good.....

Just please be patient as I work to change the system from the inside, and keep in mind (as I have said for a year now) not 1 in 100 women have your combination of awareness and assertive confidence. And due to most women's reflex to spare fragile egos, the poor walking uterus jackhammers.........they just DO NOT KNOW ANY BETTER....... And even as adults the only orgasm inducing sex they know is from when they were 15 and the habit of treating their penis like they caught it breaking in the house at 2am was formed. Teach them dolfette, don't give up on them....... Be the bigger person and try to do the right thing...... You will get into heaven, AND you will have a trained partner who can still last as long as you want but hit the make-you-moan whack-a-moles in your arcade of lust

Thank you for considering my proposal

BINGO

Perhaps I am mistaken. Perhaps somewhere in the universe there exist adults who teach post-pubescent boys something about sex in the way we teach them something about algebra – starting from a base of what they clearly understand towards a goal.

I’ve always had this idea, refuted by several women, that pubescent girls are taught something about the changes that take place in their bodies by actual women in their families like moms, grannies, older sisters, aunts, or even female cousins. While the education of girls may lack much, at least they get guidance from older females relating to the fact that their bodies are changing – that it has something to do with reproduction – hopefully - and of course, that it involves some hygiene about which the should be unashamed.

It is not too far from this to begin teaching young females about the rest of the story – males – and how the changes they are experiencing relate to their evolving interest in boys and what they might expect. Another leap: that they might expect to teach their lovers how to share pleasure.

So females may say, DUH, and presume that boys learn all they need and wonder why they meet so few men who do.

Boys have such different experiences and learn unrealistic myths, many of which are simply pornographic. For sure – well I don’t know for sure – but for sure - people say kids get sex education in school. I suspect the careful language, the escape into the clinical, the emphasis upon respecting the nonjudgmental, etc. all make cover to ignore the absence of what is never taught. Sex and love making are very different but it is love making that is really sexy and people can learn how to do it – it doesn’t just come naturally – and that people for whom chemistry is there, people who really are nuts about one another, can become great lovers and these are the people who are most likely to remain married and establish strong families.

So sex education that is about making great sex is not the making of porn and dilettante indulgence, but the stuff of wholesome life.

Boys have no menstruation as a base upon which to teach them about how they are changing.

But something does happen to boys; it is very private; and it is not easy for parents, dads, granddads, older brothers, uncles, or older male cousins because it is sometimes considered immoral, often subject to snickers and giggles, and people do not think it needs to be discussed – masturbation.

Boy’s bodies begin producing seed. It matters not whether wet dreams might hypothetically suffice to dispose of shall we say “unused” seeds. It is almost impossible for any boy to not eventually discover the extraordinary pleasure he will experience playing with his pecker - resulting in ejaculation – which for him is almost always simultaneous with orgasm – and which can be repeated the next night – or for that matter in an hour.

No one needs to teach many boys how to wank [it sometimes happens]. That’s immaterial. Never have I heard of any one reaching to where boys are at that early stage of sexual development [ they are discovering that their bodies are producing seeds and there is a sensually pleasurable way to discharge these seeds ] and guide them from what they are experiencing [in secret, they hope, and they do deserve privacy] towards an appreciation of how this relates to procreation, their changing interest in girls, and the subject of this thread – that along with lessons about responsibilities – they will eventually want to learn how to use their discoveries about their own resource to produce their own self-pleasure as a resource to produce pleasure for a female – so that they will enjoy being a husband and one at that who will be a joy to their wife.

Instead, society perpetuates the myth that boys know too much already and need be taught nothing. Boys, themselves, are susceptible to myths about uber-hunks having natural sexual prowess – as lpsg.org demonstrates – much too much of our myth relies upon girth as prowess.

If we think about it, not only do too few males know much about the pleasure spots that females possess, about building excitement, about movements such as grinding vs. plunging, about edging, etc.; I don’t think boys typically understand the difference in using their own pleasure spots when trying to get in a rapid wank before getting caught, as opposed to discovering how to maximize their own pleasure discerning the difference in their experience when rubbing the frenulum and inner foreskin for uncircumcised males or that region of the penis inside the corona for circumcised males vs. rubbing the glans which is usually too sensitive until the moment of orgasm.

Were males taught to appreciate the finer points of their own pleasure, they might be prepared to understand that females have finer points of pleasure; were they prepared to understand that experimenting with positioning the corona inside the cervix – sometimes near the vagina opening [capitalizing on the pleasure they experience rubbing the frenulum area], sometimes thrusting deep towards the cervix [experiencing glans stimulation] - maximizing their own experience of that one kind of pleasure achieved by rubbing that part of the shaft where the frenulum connects or connected, as they pull out, against the vagina opening, while experimenting with rubbing the head of the penis up as best possible to massage the upper side of the vagina opening beneath the urethra; they might be best susceptible to curiosity and intrigue as how different pleasures by different stimulation might be available to their partner and consequently so inclined to ask their partner to guide them to find the right “spot” and the correct amount of pleasure as well as some nice rhythm and pace.

For if they understood how their range of pleasure differs, they might be prepared to assume as much of their mate. The kind of pleasure we guys can enjoy wanking is great. The sensations we experience in intercourse differ. The pumping away guys described in this thread are apparently attempting to make a lover as much like a fist as possible. Disdain them if we wish; but did anyone ever tell them anything otherwise?

Instead – we think boys and men are supposed to know everything and that there is something very, very wrong with one who would need teaching. Seems harmless, maybe when they are still boys. But it never changes, boys become men and no one teaches them to be lovers.

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This is a great thread and an example of how valuable can be relatively anonymous internet forums for discussing relatively private subjects.

 

[helgaleena]

From what I have heard, many females are just as ignorant about their bodies as you say males are. The fault lies squarely on prudish social standards that foster 'innocence' as if it is some sort of defense against instinct.

 

[Bavarian]

From what I have heard, many females are just as ignorant about their bodies as you say males are. The fault lies squarely on prudish social standards that foster 'innocence' as if it is some sort of defense against instinct.

Exactly, Back in the good old days, when a boy became a man, he would visit the brothel, and the (very) experienced women there would teach him about sex, and he would have that knowledge with him when he got married and took his bride to their nuptual bed, and he would teach her about sex.

There's even a saying alluding to this in German: "A new broom sweeps clean, but an old broom knows the corners."

 

[philly_po]

so all of u a saying teach the boys why do i have no one teach me on these forums, how about some advice on how to properly have sex with a woman

 

[Cougar]

anytime I do a guy, they can't last long enough to do any serious pussy pounding, so I would welcomeit for the sentation of just getting fucked long and hard and just being able to enjoy it since it normally ends way to quick for me.

 

[HazelGod]

i think i might make sure they find a book on erotic, loving, responsible sex before they find pussypounder.com

Quick show of hands...how many of you actually tried to go to that site after reading this? :biggrin1:

 

[Guy-jin]

Quick show of hands...how many of you actually tried to go to that site after reading this? :biggrin1:

I was just thinking of how many linkbacks pussypounder.com is going to get from LPSG now thanks to this post. :biggrin1:

 

[helgaleena]

Exactly, Back in the good old days, when a boy became a man, he would visit the brothel, and the (very) experienced women there would teach him about sex, and he would have that knowledge with him when he got married and took his bride to their nuptual bed, and he would teach her about sex.

There's even a saying alluding to this in German: "A new broom sweeps clean, but an old broom knows the corners."

If those truly were 'the good old days' then the brothels would be regulated by the government for quality and safety and be legal. Or possibly run by the Church, as they were in Hindu nations. This is just facetiousness, not true sexual education.

 

[teasedsilly]

I would be surprised if Nina Hartley doesn't already have a video out on "pussy pounding". Thing is, guys will be more motivated to learn while fapfapping than from some sterile book or *shudder* from their parents.

 

[deleted356736]

If those truly were 'the good old days' then the brothels would be regulated by the government for quality and safety and be legal. Or possibly run by the Church, as they were in Hindu nations. This is just facetiousness, not true sexual education.

Brothels in Europe were run by the Roman Catholic Church in times past, after the anti-sex rantings of Thomas Aquinas. They made profit out of condemning sex, and then offering sexual gratifiction for money.

In much of Europe until the second world war, brothels were legal or somewhere along that line. Then things changed, although not totally. In the UK it's quite legal for a woman to work as a prostitute, but the sex industry is not legal in other ways (very complicated). In some other European countries, prostitution has been re-legalised, following the lead of Australia. Legalised prostitution encourages quality (there is more supply, so working women have stiff competition), as well as safety.

I have had sex with escorts and prostitutes from time to time, and I have learned some tricks from Asian girls in particular, and Asian prostitues are very, very popular in Australia because of this. But by and large, a man is not going to learn much from most prostitutes because they mostly do what they can get away with. An experienced man can have fantastic sex with most prostitutes, I know this for a fact, but it takes experience to make that happen. As a way of learning before marriage, I think not, although good for relieving sexual tension, and exploring fantasies as well (if you're experienced).