Katrina And Me
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Holy crap. Even if they can get 15,000 out per day and if there are only 100,000 people in the city (I'd say more like 200,000) then it would take them more than 6 days to do it. The more days you wait, the higher the death toll, certainly. There should be more buses and caravans getting people out of the city...though I don't know how they're going to do it with the massive communication problems they are having.
First, I owe warmsunshine an apology. You were so much more dead on than I gave you credit for. You were right about the level of prepardness...they weren't.
Here's my support for warm's theory: The biggest Lake Ponchetrain levy which "failed"...didn't actually "fail" as is being reported. It wasn't finished. The army corp of engineers (it was reported today) has been slowly rebuilding the levy system around NO for years. The "new" levy's being built to replace the old aging and ineffective ones, were 80% complete...when the shrub administration pulled all of the funding due to budget pressures, created by the war in Iraq, the expense of Homeland Security and tax cuts. Construction funding was halted last year...unfinished. The words used by the administration were, many "discretionary public projects" must be eliminated........
Crimes against humanity.
Here's my theory: "The Gov. WILL now provide billions upon billions of dollars for rebuilding. Wanna' bet who gets the contracts? Undoubtedly no-bid awards to select BushCartel members."
Here's my support for warm's theory: The biggest Lake Ponchetrain levy which "failed"...didn't actually "fail" as is being reported. It wasn't finished. The army corp of engineers (it was reported today) has been slowly rebuilding the levy system around NO for years. The "new" levy's being built to replace the old aging and ineffective ones, were 80% complete...when the shrub administration pulled all of the funding due to budget pressures, created by the war in Iraq, the expense of Homeland Security and tax cuts. Construction funding was halted last year...unfinished. The words used by the administration were, many "discretionary public projects" must be eliminated........
Crimes against humanity.
Here's my theory: "The Gov. WILL now provide billions upon billions of dollars for rebuilding. Wanna' bet who gets the contracts? Undoubtedly no-bid awards to select BushCartel members."
I'm very sorry to hear all the bad news. I'm saddened to hear PonyPete's family has lost a house - I hope everyone here and their families are safe.
It was weird to hear the Governor speak this afternoon and chastise the looters to stop it. Especially with no communications to speak of in the area and no power in the first place.
Another aside, the police captain I spoke of earlier in Slidell smelled fish for some reason and he looked in his yard and there were thousands of dead fish there!
Another aside, the police captain I spoke of earlier in Slidell smelled fish for some reason and he looked in his yard and there were thousands of dead fish there!
I'm sorry. Of course I do. I didn't think you even needed to give one. I'm know that I'm so emotional about this whole thing and I can understand others being so as well. I also saw that article you were talking about and that is probably one of the reasons Bush wasn't taking questions at the Rose Garden thing.
Ugh. The media is eating this stuff up. They are taking full advantage of this opportunity to strengthen the stereotype of the savage, heartless, uneducated nigger.
Dr. D.,
The unfortunate issue is that because many of the individuals who were not able to get out of New Orleans were some of its poor and possibly less educated African American residents, they were there to either do the right thing or participate in looting. Greed and dishonsesty has no color. It is sad if it does indeed strengthen a negative stereotype, but if they were not there to photograph then there would have been no problem. Even in the most desperate of situations we do have a choice. YEs it is sad that they help to be example that strengthen the fear of others but we (Black, brown, red, yellow and white) are each responsible for our beliefs and behavior.
Naughty
"They" = the media. I was talking about the media coverage. See also: Shepard Smith asking a black guy if he's "aiight."
Shelby
Experimental Member
If FEMA would just pass out fried chicken, watermelon & Colt 45 forties everything would settle down.
I know, that was wrong. Couldn't help myself. Go ahead :spank: me.
I have friends and family in south Mississippi. So please don't accuse me of being insensitive to enormity of this epic tragedy.
If I make some decent money this weekend at the restaurant, I'm going to pitch some of it to a couple of disaster relief charity drives happening in Lexington. After that debacle involving the Troops' Ribbons, make sure that you donate to someone who is certifiably associated with Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc., but give what you can. I've got a friend who just transferred to New Orleans to do residency, and I'm worried about her and I don't have a phone number for her.
If you can do anything to help, get off the computer and get to your local station or surf online to see how you can contribute.
Or... Mark... can you set up something here and we can do one big online donation on behalf of LPSG? (Heh heh, let's not share what it stands for, though. LOL.)
If you can do anything to help, get off the computer and get to your local station or surf online to see how you can contribute.
Or... Mark... can you set up something here and we can do one big online donation on behalf of LPSG? (Heh heh, let's not share what it stands for, though. LOL.)
It's getting worse. People are turning on each other and violence is rising. People are dying in so many horrible ways. From neglect, from lack of food and water, from lack of medication, from so many awful things. Fires are still breaking out all over the city and nothing can be done. People are in those burning buildings screaming for help.
The city has been ordered to evacuate, but it means nothing as thousands of people are trapped in the city and no one provides any way to actually get out of the city.
It isn't even about saving the houses or repairing the levees at this point, they just have to mobilize every effort at all possible to get people out of this "city". Hundreds of people are living on the interstate "islands" with no means of sustanance, thousands of people are at the Convention Center and literally people are dying there and they have no information, no food or water and no hope left.
Hundreds of boats trying to rescue people stopped because they heard gunfire. How long can this go on? Are officials just hoping that all the people left just die? The relief effort seems to have slowed to a crawl.
The President, governor, and mayor can be credited for helping the people who have already escaped, but they seem to be consigning the 75,000+ people who are left in the city to a certain death. The mayor of Baton Rouge doesn't want the refugees in the city anymore (as I predicted earlier).
If anyone has a real interest in knowing more and in a much more coherent way than I can talk about, here is a decent blog:
WWLTV Update Blog
After seeing all of the elderly in wheelchairs, malnourished children and generally people who aren't being provided anything at the Convention Center I don't know if I can continue to watch this happening in my own country in my own hometown. They are now showing stacks of dead bodies alongside the living at the Convention Center. This has to stop TODAY. Not in few days and not after a bunch of more press conferences and meetings.
The city has been ordered to evacuate, but it means nothing as thousands of people are trapped in the city and no one provides any way to actually get out of the city.
It isn't even about saving the houses or repairing the levees at this point, they just have to mobilize every effort at all possible to get people out of this "city". Hundreds of people are living on the interstate "islands" with no means of sustanance, thousands of people are at the Convention Center and literally people are dying there and they have no information, no food or water and no hope left.
Hundreds of boats trying to rescue people stopped because they heard gunfire. How long can this go on? Are officials just hoping that all the people left just die? The relief effort seems to have slowed to a crawl.
The President, governor, and mayor can be credited for helping the people who have already escaped, but they seem to be consigning the 75,000+ people who are left in the city to a certain death. The mayor of Baton Rouge doesn't want the refugees in the city anymore (as I predicted earlier).
If anyone has a real interest in knowing more and in a much more coherent way than I can talk about, here is a decent blog:
WWLTV Update Blog
After seeing all of the elderly in wheelchairs, malnourished children and generally people who aren't being provided anything at the Convention Center I don't know if I can continue to watch this happening in my own country in my own hometown. They are now showing stacks of dead bodies alongside the living at the Convention Center. This has to stop TODAY. Not in few days and not after a bunch of more press conferences and meetings.
A fresh white tee would be nice too.
You're right, though. I gave up on these retards after I heard they were shooting at rescue choppers and popping off gang warfare in the Superdome.
curiouscat9
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Um, no.
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[/b][/quote]Okay jonb. I conceed the point. I was talking more about us citizens than the government or military. However, as things have unfolded I can only say, "Wow, what a cluster F**K!" :banghead:
On a related note, I hope someone is recording the coonfoolery in the city because it'll make one of the best Hood DVDs in awhile.
Black folks should be ashamed. But then, it's hard to muster shame when you look oh so clean in them new Air Force Ones.
City descending into more chaos. It's been raining for parts of the day. By the way, you can't imagine from pictures how horrible it is down there. Imagine yourself in a steam room with the door locked with your only companion a 2-day old dead body and two buckets filled with feces, urine and spoiled food and not being able to escape and no one to tell you anything. That would approach what it is like down there.
On the good news front. Some Nat'l Guard troops have shown up around the city. Rescue copters have been doing exaustive work in awful conditions rescuing who they can (people on roofs, elderly and babies in hospitals) but it's only a tiny fraction of the populace.
Convoy of Busses have FINALLY started to arrive at the Superdome to get people out of the city (from what I can see it's a whole caravan - maybe the Gov. was telling the truth - it's not hundreds and it's not nearly enough but there are at least 20 of them which is a start). With the Guard troops there, hopefully they can prevent a panic stampede. I saw the troops unloading stuff yesterday, but never heard anything about them feeding the crowd.
Some reports of prisoners taking control of a jail (might have weapons, etc - not verified though).
Another good link for those interested. The AP is providing a current scrollable, scalable satilite map of New Orleans so that you can see what areas are water-filled and what areas aren't. All my family members' homes are either under water or the water is up to the roof.
Here is the link:
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives...leanssatellite/
On the good news front. Some Nat'l Guard troops have shown up around the city. Rescue copters have been doing exaustive work in awful conditions rescuing who they can (people on roofs, elderly and babies in hospitals) but it's only a tiny fraction of the populace.
Convoy of Busses have FINALLY started to arrive at the Superdome to get people out of the city (from what I can see it's a whole caravan - maybe the Gov. was telling the truth - it's not hundreds and it's not nearly enough but there are at least 20 of them which is a start). With the Guard troops there, hopefully they can prevent a panic stampede. I saw the troops unloading stuff yesterday, but never heard anything about them feeding the crowd.
Some reports of prisoners taking control of a jail (might have weapons, etc - not verified though).
Another good link for those interested. The AP is providing a current scrollable, scalable satilite map of New Orleans so that you can see what areas are water-filled and what areas aren't. All my family members' homes are either under water or the water is up to the roof.
Here is the link:
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives...leanssatellite/
