Keith Oberman Suspended
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I can honestly see him doing much more for his cause (and potentially bringing in a larger audience, frankly) if he disavows the supposed "veil of impartiality" which he never had in the first place.
MSNBC had no real place attempting to best Fox at its own game (except, like Ginger Rodgers, backward and in high heels) as sham journalism. IMO it would be better to create, from whole cloth, a cable version of Air America, but with real cable news production values and, of course, a hard-left a message as possible (provided they remain reality-based: facts do have a liberal bias, after all).
If anyone has deep enough pockets to seed (pardon the pun) such a scheme, Arianna Huffington would seem the obvious choice. As dissatisfaction with Teabaggery grows, it would be a marvelous thing to see their balloons of helium get popped on a regular basis.
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OtterJoq: LOL!!
krispdx: Not to veer off topic too much, but considering what you just said I wouldn't be surprised if MSNBC's actions are in some way a response to what Jon Stewart said at the end of his rally. Many people on the progressive side thought he was a little out of line for his left/right equivalency. Even Bill Maher went on a tear about that on Real Time last night during his New Rules segment and he brought up some excellent points.
BBucko: I agree with you there. Olbermann is as liberal as they come. I think the only one on that network more progressive than he could be Ed Schultz, but I digress. It would be interesting if this was the start (or the hints) of a new network composed of hard liberal politics.
krispdx: Not to veer off topic too much, but considering what you just said I wouldn't be surprised if MSNBC's actions are in some way a response to what Jon Stewart said at the end of his rally. Many people on the progressive side thought he was a little out of line for his left/right equivalency. Even Bill Maher went on a tear about that on Real Time last night during his New Rules segment and he brought up some excellent points.
BBucko: I agree with you there. Olbermann is as liberal as they come. I think the only one on that network more progressive than he could be Ed Schultz, but I digress. It would be interesting if this was the start (or the hints) of a new network composed of hard liberal politics.
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Unburdened from the shackles of "objectivity", there could be several defectors from more conventional news outlets (Anderson Cooper's another one who pops to mind) and really deliver propagandized versions and spin on everything from the public option to getting corporate money out of the electoral process.
Was there any news outlet that really, genuinely focused on the "free speech 'zones'" held during the St Paul Rep convention? If the rally cry is "freedom", where are all the dissenting voices to the abbreviated freedoms we currently "enjoy"? If the rally cry is "less government intrusion" then where is the general outcry against DOMA and various state constitutional amendments outlawing who and who cannot marry or adopt kids? If it's all based on "family values", then why doesn't my family (with my lesbian sister) count? I've been calling out the hypocrisy for years: some families are simply more "valued" than others. In that regard, the Cheneys get an extra 45 bonus points, as neither Mary's partner nor their child is recognized as a family by the party of which many still consider Dick to be an elder statesman.
Where is the outcry over the permanent decline in Unions and the direct bearing that has on America's shrinking middle class?
Why are vouchers still the mantra of the conservative's answer to education reform when we should be building more and more (publicly-funded) charter schools?
If protection of America's children is a top priority of movement conservatives, why is there no outcry on their part for the horrors of teen suicide which were the end result of bullying? Not all suicides were related to gay teens, after all (though even that is one pitiful, sour pathetic piece of excuse-making).
If home ownership is the cornerstone of the American dream, then why all the demonization of "predatory borrowers" (the very essence of an oxymoron, BTW), and why the sudden amnesia of GW Bush's calls for an "ownership society"?
IF LGBTs are systemically excluded from serving in the armed forces and the right to marry their long-term partners, why the hell do we still pay taxes, and with fewer deductions, at higher rates?
Who will tackle the hideous corruption of justice known since Reagan as the War on Drugs?
With crime at unparalleled lows in modern times, why do we continue to expand police powers and turn local peace officers into members of SWAT teams?
ETA: Who out there is ready to take on the concept of American Imperialism, as exemplified by wars of conquest in Iraq and Afghanistan?
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And the joke was on the DemoLibs Tuesday night. LOL. :biggrin1:Quote:
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Some jokes write themselves.
Don't they, though.
;-)
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Smarmy disregard for the fundamentals of literacy is classic Teabaggery.
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Even your computer is illiterate.
Did you even get OtterJoq's point?
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Yeah, you tried that one before and it didn't work then either.
But hey, if 2/3rds of my people lost their bids for election I'd be looking to turn a molehill into a mountain anyway I could as well. Long live the revolution, eh?
I Keith comes back to MSNBC, it all smacks as a publicity stunt for Oberman's ratings. The timing was perfect - a day AFTER the elections.
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I seriously doubt he got it...which makes it even funnier!:biggrin1::biggrin1::biggrin1:
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But wait... there's more!
MSNBC host Rachel Maddow closed her program Friday night with a segment about the suspension of her "colleague and friend Keith Olbermann," arguing that the suspension underscores the difference between MSNBC and Fox News. Maddow argued that MSNBC's suspension of Olbermann in light of his political donations (without prior network approval) showed that it is a real news organization, as opposed to Fox News, which allows its hosts to engage in political activity without consequence.
Maddow: Keith Olbermann Suspension Proves Difference Between MSNBC & Fox News (VIDEO)
If this is true, do you think this was best way to approach this subject?
MSNBC host Rachel Maddow closed her program Friday night with a segment about the suspension of her "colleague and friend Keith Olbermann," arguing that the suspension underscores the difference between MSNBC and Fox News. Maddow argued that MSNBC's suspension of Olbermann in light of his political donations (without prior network approval) showed that it is a real news organization, as opposed to Fox News, which allows its hosts to engage in political activity without consequence.
Maddow: Keith Olbermann Suspension Proves Difference Between MSNBC & Fox News (VIDEO)
If this is true, do you think this was best way to approach this subject?
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Jeez... the opinions that emit from some of our beloved Teapublican irritants are so limp, even a full bottle of viagra couldn't make it rigid.
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all this lieing and cheating, down boys! the stentch of hypocracy lies heavy in the air..... or did vynlboy just fart?
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D_Sir Fitzwilly Wankheimer III
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where are the donations? talk about a limpdick rebuke. I guess you've got little to work with these days.
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No... you opened your legs. Major difference.
And I would go in detail as to why this isn't a hypocrisy, but you're too ignorant to understand.
I do? All you need is Google and the right search words, shit for brains.
NEWSMEAT ▷ Sean Hannity's Federal Campaign Contribution Report
Gee, and it only took me 30 seconds to find that one source. Whereas it probably takes you ten times as long to remember "yellow in the front, brown in the back" every morning. When will you ever learn that I'll always embarrass your sorry ass around here? Don't you have a Teapublican circle jerk to attend to? With your bodily girth, you'd be perfect for their election bukkake party.
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I think any news has gotten past the point of being objective, but Keith was pretty bad. I never really watched his show, but when flipping through the channels it seemed to consist of Bill Orielly, Rush, or Glenn Beck is the worst person in the world today. I saw that several times, and while I don't necessarily disagree especially with Beck is that really "the news"? Unfortunately there do not seem to be any objective people out there on the news anymore, but maybe there never was.
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Olbermann is a commentator, not a news guy in the strict sense. He's not paid to have even a pretense of objectivity. Just sayin'.
Yea I know the difference. That being said trying to convince the world that the competition is the devil is petty. All of them now have such big egos that they are just trying to convince you they are right, and the other guy sucks. In some ways I guess that's the job of a commentator, but it has gotten to the point where the amount of facts are thin, critical thinking what the hell is that, and the other guy sucks. Just a bunch of blowhards. I guess that's what brings in the ratings now.
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