Keith Olbermann FIRED!....?

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This post bears repeating:



Excellent post tallguy, one of the best, clearest essays on the disturbing nature of the rightwing mindset I've seen on this board.


Do you not see the irony in your response to maxcok's dillusions? His post of calling right wingers enemies and how he deals with it is every bit as disturbing if not more than what you two are characterizing as 'disturbing'.

Whatever. Unless you two are stupid, I would say the for people like you and the ones you are calling enemy, the best thing to do is to just agree to be civil enemies and stay away from each other because its hard headed ideologues like YOU on the left and the hard headed ones on the right that will eventually lead to a second civil war. It almost sounds like you welcome it.

I can only pray (for your sake) that there aren't many out there like you.
 

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I started the thread, and before posting I read the entire article on Yahoo. What do you want to hear?

Simple question. So why did you say Olbermann was fired when he clearly wasn't?
Not even MSNBC said that he was. Don't try to spin too hard when answering it. :rolleyes:
 

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When you learn the correct definition of "freedom" that is when you realize that liberal ideology destroys freedom and that the conservative ideology is the only way to be truly 'free'.
Do you have anything beyond empty rhetoric and mindless talking points to offer?

Can you comprehend that the guys you allegedly revere so highly who founded this country were, in the context of their time, about as liberal and radical as they come?

I would rather something like Hannity & Stewart. Olbermann isn't that smart and even worse, is mean spirited.
"Meanspirited" in comparison to whom? Your hero Rush? Glenn Beck? Bill O'Reilly? Ann Coulter? . . . shall I go on?

"Not that smart"? By whose standard? Compared to the above? Compared to Palin? Compared to Bachman? Compared to you? Compared to this 'moran'? LOL.

Alan Colmes was too timid and was losing too many arguements after a while.
No doubt because he was a senisible, reasonable 'liberal pussy' who didn't yell loud enough.
 
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Do you not see the irony in your response to maxcok's dillusions? His post of calling right wingers enemies and how he deals with it is every bit as disturbing if not more than what you two are characterizing as 'disturbing'.
Okay, you've lost me here. You're quoting me, and you're talking to me, but you're mistakenly talking about me responding to myself in reference to a post you've erroneously attributed to me. That post, the one which I quoted and responded to, was actually authored by tallguy, not by me. Try reading it in context again. I hope you're not suffering from "dillusions".

Whatever. Unless you two are stupid, . . .
Not stupid, not "dillusional" either. LOL.

. . . . I would say the for people like you and the ones you are calling enemy, the best thing to do is to just agree to be civil enemies and stay away from each other because its hard headed ideologues like YOU on the left and the hard headed ones on the right that will eventually lead to a second civil war. It almost sounds like you welcome it.

I can only pray (for your sake) that there aren't many out there like you.
I haven't called anyone "enemy", so don't misattribute that to me. Your reference to "hard headed ideologues" is spectacularly ironic, since you obviously allow your ideology to drive out all logic, reason, and objectivity. You didn't read, much less consider, the article I posted regarding the false equivalency of left vs. right extremism, did you? That's a rhetorical question, meaning I already know the answer.

As tallguy elaborated in his post, it's not appropriate or even possible to respond by hiding under a rock when you're under attack. If anything leads to political violence, it will be, and already has been, extremist rhetoric on the right accompanied by violent action -the Tim McVeighs, the so-called "Patriot" groups, etc.

I posted a lot more material on rightwing extremism back at the end of August.

I hope people will at least read this summary of excerpts from the material linked below.





Here's some more insight to consider, or rather to ignore and dismiss out of hand:


 
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I started the thread, and before posting I read the entire article on Yahoo. What do you want to hear?

Simple question. So why did you say Olbermann was fired when he clearly wasn't?
Not even MSNBC said that he was. Don't try to spin too hard when answering it. :rolleyes:
Well VB, the fact is that stratedude never said outright that Olbermann was fired.

The thread title has a question mark (?) at the end and the opening post says

"Based on the article over at Yahoo, it would appear either he was fired or that Keith left on bad terms with NBC brass.

I don't know why." http://www.lpsg.org/3225122-post1.html

See? (yeah probably not) stratedude started by saying that it was either a firing or a resignation. stratedude then made clear he didn't know the reason.

I checked all of stratedude's entries in this thread, never did he say that Olbermann was fired.
 

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Well VB, the fact is that stratedude never said outright that Olbermann was fired.

The thread title has a question mark (?) at the end and the opening post says

"Based on the article over at Yahoo, it would appear either he was fired or that Keith left on bad terms with NBC brass.

I don't know why." http://www.lpsg.org/3225122-post1.html

See? (yeah probably not) stratedude started by saying that it was either a firing or a resignation. stratedude then made clear he didn't know the reason.

I checked all of stratedude's entries in this thread, never did he say that Olbermann was fired.

Short and to the point - Given stratedude's obvious political biases, the intent and implication of Olbermann being terminated still remains. If this was about accuracy and healthy debate, the word "fired" wouldn't be capitalized or emphasized the way it is currently displayed. Because I really, REALLY don't want to assume that stratedude is inherently stupid, it's safe to say that he knew exactly what he was writing and knew that it was deliberately misinterpreted to spark discussion while agitate his political opposites.

So stop acting naive, Hoss. You're too old to play that game. Everyone here (regardless of political affiliation) can clearly see what stratedude's intent was and ironically you didn't call him out for it. At the same time I can remember you saying that you called people out for making mistakes regardless of their political affiliation last time you approached me and made an ass of yourself. But here you are ignoring the obvious and coming after me again. So much for your assessment of being fair & balanced around here. Now beat it, you partisan hack.

And yeah, the one you believe to be "an intolerant, bitter, angry black man with no life, who's also a socialist, a leech on the government, an anti-heterosexual, and an enemy to white people" said it. Deal with it because in your case it's true.
 
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And yeah, the one you believe to be "an intolerant, bitter, angry black man with no life, who's also a socialist, a leech on the government, an anti-heterosexual, and an enemy to white people" said it. Deal with it because in your case it's true.
is this directed at me? I hadn't any idea what your racial background was/is and where did I say that you were anti-heterosexual? I didn't. Intolerant? At times. Bitter? After that grayed area attack at me, is there any doubt but it seems like rage rather than bitterness. Leech on government? Never said it. Enemy to white people? WTF? As I said I had and still haven't any idea what your racial, ethnic background are. My arguments with you have never been about that.

Kindly don't continue in this line of painting me as a racist and a bigot. It's uncalled for and unfounded. We will have differing views regarding several subjects, let's keep the focus there.
 

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is this directed at me? I hadn't any idea what your racial background was/is and where did I say that you were anti-heterosexual? I didn't. Intolerant? At times. Bitter? After that grayed area attack at me, is there any doubt but it seems like rage rather than bitterness. Leech on government? Never said it. Enemy to white people? WTF? As I said I had and still haven't any idea what your racial, ethnic background are. My arguments with you have never been about that.

Kindly don't continue in this line of painting me as a racist and a bigot. It's uncalled for and unfounded. We will have differing views regarding several subjects, let's keep the focus there.

Well right now I have several ignorant people on this board, all whom seem to act and think alike, believing that I am just that in some shape or form. It has gone on for years now, with seemingly no end in sight, and I've grown tired of the continued accusations. So instead of getting into anymore fights about it, I decided to wear the title just to illustrate how asinine and ridiculous the claims are. Because I'm not anything that was listed in that description. Alas, based on the fact that I disagree with some people and make the occasional sarcastic comments around here, they're so sure of it. Hell, even you believe it to some degree. To disagree does not mean to be intolerant. The two words are not even synonymous. And I'm certainly not bitter. I don't resent a single thing I have ever said or done around here, nor do I wish virulence on anyone I get into a debate with. But with the blatant & dishonest BS I have to deal with on this board, I have the right to be a bitch once in a while. I don't have to be nice to those who have no intention of being it themselves.

But I digress... if you want to focus more on Olbermann and the blatant dishonesty of the OP's statement then let's do so. This isn't about me or my misinterpretation of anything.
 

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No, showing respect to the radical right will accomplish nothing. The wingnuts have made it abundantly clear for years that anyone who disagrees with their political ideology is human garbage and should literally be forced to capitulate or die. There's no civil response to a person who is so full of themselves that they think anyone who is different needs to be eliminated. There is no place in a civilized society for the eliminationist rhetoric they espouse at every chance.

So, I have adopted the logical position that anyone who wishes ill will towards me, my family or friends is in fact my enemy. Not because I have a problem with them, but because they have a problem with me and are actively seeking ways to destroy me. I have no choice but to actively defend myself, and that's exactly what I do each and every day of my life. I meet fire with fire and anyone who crosses my path had damned well better be ready to go all the way, because I sure as hell am.

Personally, I'm done playing games with these wingnuts and pretending that they are just regular, hardworking, loyal Americans too. They're not regular Americans, they are dangerous, radical freaks. Do not trust these people, do not associate with them and do not do business with them. Treat them like the domestic enemy that they have defined themselves as.



It is not the duty of the attacked to open a dialogue with the attacker. If wingnuts want to be treated like decent human beings worthy of being heard and respected, then all they have to do is behave like decent human beings worthy of being heard and respected.

Instead, the wingnuts choose to alienate others and self-segregate themselves along ideological lines. THEY chose this path. THEY defined all Americans with different values as traitors and the enemy of 'their' America.

The wingnuts are the aggressor and only they can end the acrimony by ending their hatred of the world, by apologizing, and by proving through good deeds over time that they are good people.

In the mean time, I stay vigiliant at all times. The man who trusts his enemy is the man who dies first.

Can't improve on this; thanks, tallpaguy!
 

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And yeah, the one you believe to be "an intolerant, bitter, angry black man with no life, who's also a socialist, a leech on the government, an anti-heterosexual, and an enemy to white people" said it. Deal with it because in your case it's true.

is this directed at me? I hadn't any idea what your racial background was/is and where did I say that you were anti-heterosexual? I didn't. Intolerant? At times. Bitter? After that grayed area attack at me, is there any doubt but it seems like rage rather than bitterness. Leech on government? Never said it. Enemy to white people? WTF? As I said I had and still haven't any idea what your racial, ethnic background are. My arguments with you have never been about that.

Kindly don't continue in this line of painting me as a racist and a bigot. It's uncalled for and unfounded. We will have differing views regarding several subjects, let's keep the focus there.

Well right now I have several ignorant people on this board, all whom seem to act and think alike, believing that I am just that in some shape or form. It has gone on for years now, with seemingly no end in sight, and I've grown tired of the continued accusations. So instead of getting into anymore fights about it, I decided to wear the title just to illustrate how asinine and ridiculous the claims are. Because I'm not anything that was listed in that description. Alas, based on the fact that I disagree with some people and make the occasional sarcastic comments around here, they're so sure of it. Hell, even you believe it to some degree. To disagree does not mean to be intolerant. The two words are not even synonymous. And I'm certainly not bitter. I don't resent a single thing I have ever said or done around here, nor do I wish virulence on anyone I get into a debate with. But with the blatant & dishonest BS I have to deal with on this board, I have the right to be a bitch once in a while. I don't have to be nice to those who have no intention of being it themselves.

But I digress... if you want to focus more on Olbermann and the blatant dishonesty of the OP's statement then let's do so. This isn't about me or my misinterpretation of anything.


Still haven't addressed the lies which have painted me in a negatiive manner. NEVER did I spew racist remarks at you and yet that's 1 thing which you've accused me of.

Never did I claim that you are a leech, yet that too you've accused me of being.

Several more aspersions have been cast upon me by you beyond these.

Stop the lies & admit that you're a liar.

Either you are mentally ill or you are a liar.
 

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Still haven't addressed the lies which have painted me in a negatiive manner. NEVER did I spew racist remarks at you and yet that's 1 thing which you've accused me of.

Never did I claim that you are a leech, yet that too you've accused me of being.

Several more aspersions have been cast upon me by you beyond these.

Stop the lies & admit that you're a liar.

Either you are mentally ill or you are a liar.

Are you absolutely blind?
First off, Hasshole, re-read the grey text. If you knew how to READ you would notice that I never once said that you called me a leech or a racist. Saying that someone believes it (whether it's true or not) is much different than actually saying that you typed it. But you didn't notice that, did you? Of course you didn't. You just saw the word racist in a post and flipped your lid. I don't have to address accusing you for calling me a racist or a leech because I NEVER SAID THAT YOU DID. But don't worry, I won't ask you for an apology.

Also, look at my previous message to you again. I quoted and bolded the two parts that I directly responded to from your last post. That should have been your damn clue as to what I was addressing. It works for practically everyone else around here and I'm not going to start formulating my posts in some unique, dumbed down way just to convey a thought to you. I also explained why I typed the line in grey and I'm not going to say another damn thing on the matter. Why don't you take a lesson in paying attention and exercising some level of comprehension first before you go around accusing someone for being mentally ill or a liar?

As far as we're concerned, there is nothing else for me to address or explain to you here. If you feel insulted for something I didn't say, tough shit.
 
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Simple question. So why did you say Olbermann was fired when he clearly wasn't?
Not even MSNBC said that he was. Don't try to spin too hard when answering it. :rolleyes:

Let me answer you with a question:

Why do YOU accuse me of saying KO was fired?

Not only was there a question mark in the title of the thread, but if you actually READ the content of the original post, you would see that I clearly and FAIRLY wondered whether he quit or was fired. Since you are probably too lazy to go back and ACTUALLY read the original post, I'll copy and paste here with the words highlighted that will prove how dumb you are:

"Not sure whats going on over at MSNBC with Keith Olbermann leaving. Based on the article over at Yahoo, it would appear either he was fired or that Keith left on bad terms with NBC brass.

I don't know why."


Did I spin very hard making you look like an idiot?
 

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First off, stratedude... I know how to read. And if you READ my simple question, you would have saw that it wasn't an accusation, but nothing more of an inquiry. Strike one.

Secondly, the fact that you didn't take any time to read my simple question before responding in your usual tired and played out alpha male style shows that you lack the ability to honestly comprehend what is presented to you. So your inquires about my intellect are as irrelevant as your entire existence on this board. Strike two.

Thirdly, you could never make me look like an idiot no matter how much you spin. The fact that you were so desperate for attention to start a thread with the intention of agitating people, on top of the fact that you're so fuckin' socially and politically cowardly to be more honest with people on this board to create a thread that would spark real discussion should be your clue as to where you really place around here. Strike three. You're out.

Before you refute, because I know you want to, ask yourself... who the hell you think you're trying to play here, son? You're more see through than a transparency and easier to read than a Dick & Jane book. Come correct or don't come at all. You already struck out before this statement, so kicking you while you're already down is not necessary. Even a bitch like me knows how to administer mercy.
 

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Current TV??!! Never heard of it. Al Gore can afford a network now too... doesn't shock me, but wasn't aware.

His business "partners" that profit off his doomsday scenario agenda that probably pumped on that channel (admittedly I'm assuming there might be "some" slight bias in that program on Current TV) must be happy.

Be Green or Be Dead, I suppose.
 

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Current TV has been around on our cable network for quite some time. If I recall before the network adopted its current format, amateur film producers could produce clips of various lengths and upload them to the site. Viewers could then vote on what they wanted to see, and the most popular clips ranging up to 15 minutes would air live on the TV. One of my previous day jobs was featured on the network with an interesting clip after it was voted the "Best Place to Flirt" by one of the local rags in the city. It's been a while since I last watched something on Current TV, but it does provide a rather interesting stage for Keith Olbermann to present the news as he sees it.

Current TV: News Video Clips & Current News Articles // Current
 

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First off, stratedude... I know how to read. And if you READ my simple question, you would have saw that it wasn't an accusation, but nothing more of an inquiry. Strike one.

Secondly, the fact that you didn't take any time to read my simple question before responding in your usual tired and played out alpha male style shows that you lack the ability to honestly comprehend what is presented to you. So your inquires about my intellect are as irrelevant as your entire existence on this board. Strike two.

Thirdly, you could never make me look like an idiot no matter how much you spin. The fact that you were so desperate for attention to start a thread with the intention of agitating people, on top of the fact that you're so fuckin' socially and politically cowardly to be more honest with people on this board to create a thread that would spark real discussion should be your clue as to where you really place around here. Strike three. You're out.

Before you refute, because I know you want to, ask yourself... who the hell you think you're trying to play here, son? You're more see through than a transparency and easier to read than a Dick & Jane book. Come correct or don't come at all. You already struck out before this statement, so kicking you while you're already down is not necessary. Even a bitch like me knows how to administer mercy.

I hope this was a joke, you were wrong and he was right. Anyone can see that.
 

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I hope this was a joke, you were wrong and he was right. Anyone can see that.

I honestly don't give a shit if you think he's right and I'm wrong. Your opinion on a dead, week old rhetorical argument is not doctrine, nor is the overall consensus of the forum despite your desperate need to regurgitate it. So really, what are your real intentions for starting up with me in a third thread on this board in the last few days? Are you still that upset that I called you out for making ignorant comments about the H1N1 virus? Seriously, you need a life. Go find one that isn't mine.

Or at least try to talk about Keith Olbermann, like the thread is supposed to be about. Notice how everyone was since this thread was regenerated, until you came in to derail it.
 
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