I guess his stumping for the upcoming elections is pretty much done.
The silence will probably be deafening.
I dunno, man. Kerry botched a joke. The president has us in an un-winnable war. (I 100% support the troops by the way - totally and unconditionally.)
From what I've heard on the news, the democrats are a bit silent, true. Too bad, really. This is bad timing.
Shelby said:I heard the clip. There is no mistaking in my mind that he feels, or at least said to what he figured to be a sympathetic audience, that the military is for losers.
This is a different discussion, but let's not pretend that the current military application process does not target people who do not finish school school or do not have the financial wherewithall to go to college without those "military perks."
Kids should finish school--who the fuck wants to die in a needless war?
Kerry is a backstabber, pure and simple. After he finished with the Vietnam War, he went and testified before congress and backstabbed the men he served with. He destroyed the reputation of an entire generation of Veterans. Growing up in the 1970's, I fully believed that people did the acts that Kerry testified to. It is to my intense shame, that I drank the poison that he dispenced. Not only did he testify to them, he also admitted before Congress that he particiapted in them, too.
The intersting thing about that is that we have a man who has professed to war crimes and hasn't been tried on them.
Now, thanks to the Swift Boat Veterans, we know that his testimony to Congress was a lie.
This whole idea that what he said was a botched joke is his contempt to people who have a brain. Saying John Kerry can tell a joke is like telling Roseann that she can sing.
Plus, he still hasn't, and won't, apologize to the men and women in the military. And let me say, too, that I AM a Veteran. I served in the USMC from 1989 to 1993. During my time in the Marines I was profoundly struck by the intelligence and moral backbone that I found there. I had already had a year and a half of college before i went to boot camp and I will say, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the people I served with are far more intelligent than those that the college was teaching.
Backstabber! Backstabber! Backstabber! Backstabber! Backstabber!
I will give Kerry some Kudos, though. He's the most famous male gold digger we've ever known.
And, before the personal attacks start in on me, if you are going to tow the party line, please don't. What he said is and was indefensible! This is NOT about the war. This is NOT about President Bush. This is AND WILL ALWAYS BE about how Kerry said that if you don't get a good education you will end up in the military.
If you can't keep that truth focused in your mind, don't respond to what I've said.
Lex said:This is a different discussion, but let's not pretend that the current military application process does not target people who do not finish school school or do not have the financial wherewithall to go to college without those "military perks."
Lex, with all due respect, this is the very same elitist condescending attitude that has SailboardBoy in the boiling pot. As a member of the academe you have an insular view.
In the face of an increasingly unpopular war the military may well be lowering its entrance standards. But in general it turns away those you think it seeks.
Furthermore, some people outside the university might say necessary rather than needless.
This guy is an insult to all Americans. Kerry is an insult to any veteran who has ever served The United States of America!
I guess his stumping for the upcoming elections is pretty much done.
Populist hypocrisy exposed.
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ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY LEX! Point should not be lost in this discussion.
Have you seen the documentary on how the military targets intentionally (pun intended on "Target") parking lots at stores like Walmart when doing their enlistment rounds? It's by intent to appeal to those from underpriviledged backgrounds.
Geez.. guess who THAT may be?
... Much gratitude to Stronzo and Lex for pointing out the real story here.