Kinsey scale adapted to top/bottom

[latinluva]

nwnccpl- I am bisexual and only bottom for other men or suck their cocks. But I am not really into fucking guys or having my cock sucked by guys. I love fucking women and eating their pussies and love getting oral sex from them. So as far as the scale is concerned I am a total zero because I love receiving anal and giving head......and I am extremely submissive. Maybe I am misinterpiting the meaning of the scale.

 

[D_Harvey Schmeckel]

nwnccpl- I am bisexual and only bottom for other men or suck their cocks. But I am not really into fucking guys or having my cock sucked by guys. I love fucking women and eating their pussies and love getting oral sex from them. So as far as the scale is concerned I am a total zero because I love receiving anal and giving head......and I am extremely submissive. Maybe I am misinterpiting the meaning of the scale.

You got it exactly right! At first I forgot zero was even on it, but yes that is correct. One thing I wonder if about is how to apply top/bottom to oral sex. I enjoy sucking a bit more than getting sucked but it feels active and not passive to me.

 

[bigboyjay]

I'd say I'm a 6

No man, you're a 10 :smile:

 

[Sardonic]

By nature I'd be a 1 or higher, but in practice I'm a 0 as my partner is a no negotiations 6, so that's the way it is.

 

[dylz]

i would say i am a 2. i would probably be a 1 if i didnt have a big dick and guys didnt want me topping them :X

 

[456521]

With guys I am a 0. Partially because I really enjoy being submissive when I'm with a man, but also because the physical sensations I get from my ass are way more intense than what I get from my cock.

 

[maxcok]

I would judge myself a 2 on the OP's scale.I enjoy versatile sex with transexuals and bottom sex with men. Most of my sexual experience is with women. It's only within the last 10 yrs that I broadened my experience with TS and guys.

nwnccpl- I am bisexual and only bottom for other men or suck their cocks. But I am not really into fucking guys or having my cock sucked by guys. I love fucking women and eating their pussies and love getting oral sex from them. So as far as the scale is concerned I am a total zero because I love receiving anal and giving head......and I am extremely submissive. Maybe I am misinterpiting the meaning of the scale.

You got it exactly right! At first I forgot zero was even on it, but yes that is correct. One thing I wonder if about is how to apply top/bottom to oral sex. I enjoy sucking a bit more than getting sucked but it feels active and not passive to me.

With guys I am a 0. Partially because I really enjoy being submissive when I'm with a man, but also because the physical sensations I get from my ass are way more intense than what I get from my cock.

Who would have guessed that so many men who identify as bi, even predominantly straight, would have such a strong preference for 'bottoming' and/or taking a 'submissive' role in M/M sex, specifically fucking, even oral? This is all fascinating to me, and it goes well beyond the point I was trying to make in my original post.

I think it is very difficult to categorize human behavior, especially human sexual behavior. There is such a wide complex range of psychology behind the activities people like to engage in. It goes way beyond sensation, even way beyond stated sexual preference, as would seem obvious here. I am once again, as always, surprised. The variety of sexual turn-ons, the activities people like to engage in, the combinations and the reasons why seem to be infinite. I think you would have better results with your survey if you were to narrowly define certain specific sexual activity(ies), and pointedly avoid the leap to stereotypes regarding 'top' vs. 'bottom' behaviors.

I thought it was particularly interesting that the OP personally regards giving head as 'active', which it certainly can be, but does that mean the recipient is 'passive'? Maybe yes, maybe no. Is it semantic? What if I'm kicking back? What if you're getting skull fucked? As someone who is especially happy on the receiving end of a good blowjob, I've always been confused on this point. Back in the day when there were 'hanky codes', they broke down as top/active vs. bottom/passive. So which pocket do I put that damn light blue hanky in anyway? 'Top' in my mind does not necessarily equate to active, dominant, aggressive. 'Bottom' does not automatically equal passive, submissive. (I have known plenty of passive/aggressive bottoms, btw :wink:.)

Using myself as an example, I would be a solid 6 on your scale - insofar as it relates to M/M anal sex. However, though anal is certainly well in my repertoire, and I can well deliver, it is not necessarily the 'main event' of M/M sex for me as it is for some, as I think it is often assumed to be by many people, gay and straight alike. For me, it totally depends on how I see my partner, physically and psychologically, whether I feel inspired to fuck his brains out. More often than not, not. Just because a hole is wet and willing, even appealing, doesn't mean I necessarily want to go there. Yeah, I'm picky. Does that make me less of a 'top'? If you expand your definition to include other activities, even M/F activities, I would still match up as a 6, though I wouldn't rule out being a 5 in certain right and rarest of circumstances.

There was a time when I was younger that I thought I needed to be 'versatile' and reciprocate everything, even things I didn't enjoy so much. To not do so seemed selfish. I couldn't fathom that the things I enjoyed so much were sometimes the things my partners enjoyed least and vice versa. How could you not like getting your cock sucked, for example? I still have a hard time comprehending that one. It was an epiphany to discover that it's perfectly fine, indeed preferable, for me to match up with people whose sexual proclivities complement my own, rather than trying to be all things for all people. I've had a much happier and more satisfying sex life ever since, as do my partners, so now everybody's :smile:.

I usually tell people I'm a 'top' just to make it easy for them. I'm a 'take charge' kind of guy, so in that sense I fit the typical stereotype, but I'm also very considerate and laid back - I don't necessarily need or even want to take the lead in all things, sexually or otherwise. You could say I'm generally 'dominant' sexually, but not necessarily aggressive, not always, not necessarily most of the time. Far more often than not, it is I who is pursued and seduced by a so-called 'bottom' and not the other way around. I would say that I don't quite fit a stereotype, though it appears many guys do not.

I think there's enough gray area here to open up discussions on any number of thread topics. I want to tip my hat to those bi and predominantly straight brothers for being so open about their M/M activity preferences and for sharing the psychology behind it. It would seem to amplify my reservations about this sort of categorization and the inevitable stereotypes that always seem to follow. It would also seem to support the OP's original supposition, that generally speaking there are more 'bottoms' than 'tops', at least where buttfucking is concerned, probably cocksucking too. I still tend to agree with that, anecdotally at least (lucky me :smile, so I guess we come back again to the same 'bottom line'. :wink:

 

[nandohullen]

that's interesting. i'm BI and versatile, but the top/bottom question depends a lot.
at first sight i don't have any preference, it goes by all the moments things, how the dude is, if it's a MMM or MMF threesome and a bunch other.

in my current relation i'm 2 just because my bf ass is so gorgeous and he likes to be fucked, but his frontside is way much more awesome, very hung + six packs + torso + great legs, more bottom i am. and in the last one, i were a 5, almost a 6. we have the same physical type, which leads to a 3 to both of us, but he was kinda cocklover. i like to take it, but he LOVED.

so, i'm a 3. or a mutant, lol.

 

[maxcok]

^ You sound like you fit in anywhere. Lucky you, lucky for your partners too, lucky on so many counts.

So everybody's happy. At the end of the day, isn't that the best possible result?

 

[nandohullen]

^ You sound like you fit in anywhere. Lucky you, lucky for your partners too, lucky on so many counts.

So everybody's happy. At the end of the day, isn't that the best possible result?

if u're saying this is an lucky thing, and i feel lucky, fucking hell yeah!

and just to add, i chatted with a friend few minutes ago and he said that's because we're brazilians, and this top/bottom thing isn't that so divided here.
any idea if that's cultural/racial too?

 

[ginger_qboy]

Although I can't help you with an entry into your poll, as I don't qualify, This would be really interesting if it was correlated with Kinsey's homosexual/heterosexual scaling to see if any patterns emerge. God, I'm such a nerd. . .

i think nerds are cute! lemme see your dick

 

[B_quietguy]

There's a study from the Archives of Sexual Behavior looking at the association between penis size and likelihood of being a top/bottom:

Men with below average penises were significantly more likely to identify as “bottoms” (anal receptive) and men with above average penises were significantly more likely to identify as “tops” (anal insertive). Finally, men with below average penises fared significantly worse than other men on three measures of psychosocial adjustment.

SpringerLink - Journal Article

Well, that about describes me. Above average length and girth and I'd say I top most of the time during 1-on-1 sex. During group sex, I top about 2/3 of the time. I guess that makes me a 4-to-5 on the scale.

 

[maxcok]

if u're saying this is an lucky thing, and i feel lucky, fucking hell yeah!

and just to add, i chatted with a friend few minutes ago and he said that's because we're brazilians, and this top/bottom thing isn't that so divided here.
any idea if that's cultural/racial too?

I don't think it's racial, but it's definitely cultural. There are many cultures where men having sex with men don't consider the sex or themselves homosexual at all, as long as they remain in the 'dominant' i.e. insertive role, what we generally consider 'top', though they often consider their sex partner totally homosexual, often derisively so.

There are all sorts of weird mental gymnastics men do in that regard, you see lots of it here on this board. Examples: Those 99-100% 'straight' guys, who not only love looking at cocks and showing off their cocks to other guys, but those who engage in mutual jackoff, even blowjobs or buttfucking with men, more often than not with other 'straight' buds. Wacky, eh?

Brazilians are among the most sexually liberated people on the planet, maybe the most liberated. Americans, despite the overwhelming sexual imagery and emphasis in our culture, are by comparison incredibly uptight about sex, heterosexual men are in particular. We also have a general tendency and need to categorize things more so than you. So yeah, it's definitely cultural.

You're lucky to be Brazilian too. Besides being liberated, I think Brazilians are also about the sexiest people on the planet. I'm starting to hate you a little bit. I would feel better if you start posting pictures of yourself and your friends, particularly your boyfriend with the awesome ass, rock hard abs, and huge cock. We'll all like you better if you do that. :wink:

 

[B_VinylBoy]

In all honesty, I fluctuate between 2, 3 & 4. That's my personal preference, even though I have been the "exclusive" in some relationships such as my current.

 

[maxcok]

In all honesty, I fluctuate between 2, 3 & 4. That's my personal preference, even though I have been the "exclusive" in some relationships such as my current.

This may be the first time ever you ended up in the middle of the road. :biggrin1:

 

[nandohullen]

maxcok
i loled about my bf. he's sexy, sure, but not that much gorgeous greek statue. ok, his ass is awesome and he is hung, but he isn't muscular, just defined, but a 'six pack' dude.

and going back to the topic, now i see that's cultural too. but we aren't that much liberated, what i see is that we force ourselves to be hot and about EVERY man have a curiosity. i don't know in usa, but here is common to caught guys staring bulges or st8 jokes, like touching, showing and saying what they call 'gayish things' like: "what a big dick!" - "look our sausages!" - "fuck me bitch!"

i just laugh and fit in.

 

[georgiabass14]

I'm a 2 working towards 3.