Korean Circumcision

[pitloverfl]

Oh for the love of Christ, you people are taking this issue way too seriously! Do some research, find out the pros and cons and make a decision for yourself based on what's best for you. Don't listen to what your girl friend wants (wife might be different). Don't listen to what some morons (me included) on some big dick website think.

From the tenor of this thread, you'd think we were discussing the wisdom and morality of the terrorist uprising in Chechnya and the appropriateness or lack thereof of the Russian military response. Circumcision is a fairly minor, largely cosmetic procedure. Is it a great thing? Probably not in most cases. Is it a horrible thing? Probably not in most cases. Whatever it is, it's not one of the most urgent causes of our time.

 

[Box_Man]

And so it begins anew......

now my head is, spinning, spinning, like a whirlpool, it never ends....

 

[B_dxjnorto]

Do some research, find out the pros and cons

If there were some pros.

Circumcision is a fairly minor, largely cosmetic procedure.

Typical minimizing. Can't agree. Cutting off healthy body parts is a big deal.

 

[SirConcis]

TO the original poster:

When you go to a doctor, you ask him if he is willing to do just a semi-cut (partial circumcision). If not, then you go seek another doctor.

Once you get a doctor you are comfortable with, make sure you guide him when he draws the lines that termine how much and where the skin is removed.

If the cut is made such that less than half of glans remained covered, you end up with skin moving back and forth in yoru undereear and when naked, it will usually be behind rim with a lot of skin bunched up. If you want a good semi-cut, you need to plan on having no more than 1/3 of head exposed when soft. Otherwise, go for a full circ to get bare head with cosmetic result. A loose circ with a usually (but not always) bare head isn't too cool looking.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

Note to OP regarding SirConcis:

Do not listen to SirConcis unless you want your dick to look like his. He has undergone two adult circumcisions.

Note to everyone else:

That's where that thing called choice comes into play. How can you make a decision like that for yourself if someone else made it on the day you were born?

 

[pitloverfl]

If there were some pros.

That's for the OP and for responsible parents and adults to decide for themselves, not you.

Typical minimizing. Can't agree. Cutting off healthy body parts is a big deal.

Typical fanatical overstatement. Can't agree. You really don't know much about human nature, anthropology, history, etc., do you? There are lots of legitimate reasons for changing our bodies that might not fit your rule book. Sorry you're so hung up on this particular subject. Good luck on getting over it. :smile:

 

[korinaus]

I have a very long foreskin, even when fully erect on my 19cm penis is still has a lot of overhang. I can keep it retracted throughout the day, though sometimes it gets a little swollen being pulled back for longer than 8 hours.

I had thought about getting a semi-circ to remove some of the exess, (I would like it to retract when erect)

My first serious girlfriend is a Korean and I am her first westerner, and she has never experienced an uncut guy before. After sleeping together for about 6 months she mentioned that I should 'take surgery' on my penis to make it look better. I mentioned that I had thought the semi-circ, but she recommended I get it done where we live in Seoul, where the doctors are used to circumcising older patients rather than in Canada.

I have seen the result of Korean snips (from inside the saunas, where I go fully retracted in order to fit in, because I have yet to see an uncut Korean over the age of 10) and they seem to always cut VERY tight. Though my GF loves to rub the foreskin (she can't sleep without her hand in my pants, and that took quite a bit getting used to sleep with), she said she would prefer a very tight cut with almost no moveable skin on the shaft.

Does anyone know about the circumcision styles and the techniques used by Korean doctors? I guess I would want something a bit more moderate rather than some of the results I've seen on most Koreans here.

Hi. I am a Korean. It is true that many Korean guys are circumcized even though the rate is a bit in decline nowadays. (I am personally uncircumcized.) So it is likely that your girlfriend thinks it is odd for a guy not to be uncut. I am not sure but if you get cut, it would increase your erection quality if your foreskin is too loose.

And there is no such thing as the Korean style circumcision. When it comes to circumcision, I can tell you that Korean urologists are probably most experienced and skilled. I assume your Korean is not good enough to communicate well with doctors. So just make sure that you go with your girlfriend so that you can get personalized surgery as you want. There is even a way that doctors do not get rid of your foreskin and roll it over and make a ring by sewing it somewhere just below the glan. Maybe you would end up having an enlargement surgery as well even though it seems you don't need to increase the size at all. If I was in Seoul, maybe I could help you but now I am in Australia.

All in all, visit a doctor and discuss a lot with him/her through your girlfriend as an interpreter. Since you are living in Seoul, you may know there is a famous street where every building is kind of hospital in 'Abgujung'.

Good luck with your girlfriend. If you get a good result from my small advice, hope you set me up with a Canadian girl later (I'm kidding!) Cheers!

 

[D_Ivana Dickenside]

if your GF isn't happy with your body, then that's her problem and not yours. you shouldn't chop off a part of your penis because she wants you to. if you get circumcised do it for YOURSELF and not SOMEONE ELSE.

She's Korean and never slept with an uncut guy? I am a scholar of Asian studies and find that VERY hard to believe.

same here! i'm asian and even I find that hard to believe, especially when she lives in asia. if she lived in the US or anywhere else that's westernized, then i wouldn't be surprised... but come on!

 

[Viking_UK]

Is it your body or hers?

If you want to have a circumcision, that's fine. It's your choice. If you're thinking about getting cut just because she wants you to, that's a different story. Girlfriends come and go. How much do you want to change to suit her? What if she decides she preferred an intact dick after you've had the chop and then dumps you for a bloke with a foreskin?

What else about you is she not happy with? Will she start pressuring you to get a tummy tuck? Has she started talking about facelifts yet? What about waxing?

Losing weight or going to the gym is one thing, but chopping bits of yourself off to suit someone else who may or may not hang around afterwards is not something I'd consider personally.

At the end of the day, it's your body though. Just think carefullly before you make permanent changes to it.

 

[Closet Donkey]

Mate, sadly I am circed. I would do most anything to have mine back. Think carefully and clearly about this before doing anything. For instance, what will you do if this relationship does not work out and your next partner would prefer that you have a foreskin? Or, put differently, how would she feel about having her breasts enlarged/reduced/altered the way you want it? Or have her vagina tightened or her anus bleached to your specifications?

Point is, do something that YOU can live with for the REST of your life ... and remember you cant have it back once its off.

I too wish I had a foreskin to slide back and fourth. I wouldn't do it unless it was for medical reasons. If your girlfriend really loves you she will accept you just the way you are.

 

[mandoman]

That's for the OP and for responsible parents and adults to decide for themselves, not you.



Typical fanatical overstatement. Can't agree. You really don't know much about human nature, anthropology, history, etc., do you? There are lots of legitimate reasons for changing our bodies that might not fit your rule book. Sorry you're so hung up on this particular subject. Good luck on getting over it. :smile:

Actually, ethically, it should be the choice of the person with the penis, and no one else. People use words like 'fanatical', because they cling to the concept that they, or a 'responsible parent', should have the say, like they were branding cattle. A 'responsible parent' does not subject their kid to surgery unless there is an immediate, pressing medical need.
Fanatical enough for ya?

 

[JacobFox]

Indignity in the face of factual challenge does not serve a scholar of anything well.

Not putting up with people who are not willing to support their claims and expect me to do it does not take away from me being a scholar.

I admitted I was wrong about circumcision being prevelant in Korea. However, it's not my job to look for proof for someone else's claims.

Furthermore, if you are challenging my position as a scholar of asian studies, I think that circumcision is one of the least important things I need to know when studying a continent with the majority of the world's population where most don't practice it. Do you want to debate language and asian history?

 

[JacobFox]

Male circumcision: a South Korean perspective
World Incidence of Genital Mutilation - Maps notice North Korea is listed as intact. Circumcision is widely practiced in South Korea - also in the Philippines

Prevalence of circumcision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia scroll down to Asia 80% or more (circumcised)

Circumcision is highly prevalent in South Korea.

Good going, Sapien. Thanks for this post because providing true information rather than just typing a response is important and respected. I respect you.

 

[JacobFox]

I agree with JacobFox. Please truly consider before doing anything. I would like to believe that if she was 'serious' with you, then whether you're cut/uncut really wouldn't matter. Good luck in your decision!

It's nice that someone was able to determine what the point of my post was, rather than get into an arguement. Thank you very much

Rather than listen to my advice, everyone wanted to jump on my misconception of the prevalence of Korean Circumcision. I made a mistake and admit it. However, the point of my post, which is lost on these internet trolls who are only looking to start a fight, is that the OP should make a decision based off his own needs and wants and not anyone else.

 

[JacobFox]

jacobfox is smart and cute

Thanks man You're cute too... after pitloverfl, maybe the cutest guy on the site.... well and Nick is cute too

 

[JacobFox]

If there were some pros.Typical minimizing. Can't agree. Cutting off healthy body parts is a big deal.

I have known pitloverfl for over three years and he is NOT someone to minimalize anything. He considers all sides before forming an opinion and may be the most educated person I know. Don't try to discount him just because you don't agree with him. Rather than come up with an actual arguement, you ONLY rely on personal attacks. Learn better.

 

[JacobFox]

if your GF isn't happy with your body, then that's her problem and not yours. you shouldn't chop off a part of your penis because she wants you to. if you get circumcised do it for YOURSELF and not SOMEONE ELSE.




same here! i'm asian and even I find that hard to believe, especially when she lives in asia. if she lived in the US or anywhere else that's westernized, then i wouldn't be surprised... but come on!

Thank you CondomFairy One of the best posts on this site.

 

[pitloverfl]

Actually, ethically, it should be the choice of the person with the penis, and no one else. People use words like 'fanatical', because they cling to the concept that they, or a 'responsible parent', should have the say, like they were branding cattle. A 'responsible parent' does not subject their kid to surgery unless there is an immediate, pressing medical need.
Fanatical enough for ya?

The ethics are pretty controversial, I'd say, in that there are various valid arguments on both sides. Controversial enough that your absolutes don't apply generally. Does the orthodox Jew who gets circumcised as an adult also get to choose to go back in time to grow up as an accepted member of his cultural and faith community? Maybe when you invent a time machine we can talk more about the subject of individual choice?

Those sorts of issues are just as important and valid as your concerns about the lack of a foreskin. That's why we don't have laws requiring or banning the procedure. We allow competent people to decide for themselves. Since babies are not able to decide for themselves, their parents have to.

If it were my child, I would leave them intact and let them decide as adults. Someone else might make a different decision based on their culture, religion, life experience, etc. That's perfectly ethical within the boundaries of the professional practice of medicine everywhere that I'm aware of. As a matter of personal ethics, that's a personal matter.

Oh, and by the way, yes, it sounds pretty damned fanatical to compare parents choosing circumcision for their sons to ranchers branding their cattle.

 

[JacobFox]

The ethics are pretty controversial, I'd say, in that there are various valid arguments on both sides. Controversial enough that your absolutes don't apply generally. Does the orthodox Jew who gets circumcised as an adult also get to choose to go back in time to grow up as an accepted member of his cultural and faith community? Maybe when you invent a time machine we can talk more about the subject of individual choice?

Those sorts of issues are just as important and valid as your concerns about the lack of a foreskin. That's why we don't have laws requiring or banning the procedure. We allow competent people to decide for themselves. Since babies are not able to decide for themselves, their parents have to.

If it were my child, I would leave them intact and let them decide as adults. Someone else might make a different decision based on their culture, religion, life experience, etc. That's perfectly ethical within the boundaries of the professional practice of medicine everywhere that I'm aware of. As a matter of personal ethics, that's a personal matter.

Oh, and by the way, yes, it sounds pretty damned fanatical to compare parents choosing circumcision for their sons to ranchers branding their cattle.

Maybe one of the best intellectual posts on this site. People here seem to think that it's their opinion which should be dominate.

WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF ALMOST 7 BILLION PEOPLE. Although I am Christian, I am HIGHLY involved in Jewish culture living in the Highland Park, Illinois area. The practice is important to them and I have yet to meet one of them who laments about it.

Some of you radicals want to outlaw it, which impedes their religion. I am AGAINST it happening at birth, but I am 1 of 7 billion people. Religion is important and Jews feel circumcision is important for their covenant with God... so I guess your views about foreskin power are more important.

 

[cock23]

To respond to the original poster: I don't think it's right that you are a grown man and you are letting your girlfriend decide what is best for you and going along with her decision. What if you split up the week after the operation is performed or something?

I think this should be a decision you make yourself. Research the pro's and con's, speak to relevant medical professionals and make the final decision yourself without interference from anyone, not even from your girlfriend. And if you are happy with your body as it is, don't do anything to it! Once you get rid of the foreskin, you can't ever get it back.

And don't read all the circumsition threads on this board when making your final decision. They are all full of angry, trollish dinosaurs who talk s***, and the great majority certainly aren't medical professionals in any sense.

Not putting up with people who are not willing to support their claims and expect me to do it does not take away from me being a scholar.

I admitted I was wrong about circumcision being prevelant in Korea. However, it's not my job to look for proof for someone else's claims.

Furthermore, if you are challenging my position as a scholar of asian studies, I think that circumcision is one of the least important things I need to know when studying a continent with the majority of the world's population where most don't practice it. Do you want to debate language and asian history?

You seem to have a rather arrogant, misplaced attitude. All the scholars I've met (at least all the good and brilliant ones) have been modest people who don't lose face easily. You don't fit that template at all.

And by the way, if you were that brilliant of a scholar you would know that the word "Asia" is a proper noun and should be spelt with a capital "A".