Korean Spa

[Seeking Booty]

Yeah, there are gay bathhouses specifically for that purpose.

Korean spas are meant to be a social space safe for children and families. Why do people insist on misappropriating them for their own use?

Some light play is fine — and if the circumstances are permitting, whatever more — but I wouldn't classify people getting kicked out for having full blown sex as homophobia.

If you want to start your own Korean styled sex club, cool. But you can't have it both ways — baths that don't "smell of open ass" but are also somehow squeaky clean. Good luck on that.

Not true. There are no clubs like that for gay people. None. Name one, you cannot because they don’t exist.

Korean families have a right to exist as they choose. I would almost say they should be allowed to bypass the civil rights act of 1964 to do so. What they don’t have a right to is the money of the people they hate. They also don’t have a right or entitlement to a monopoly or near 100 percent of market share.
Again, the thing we all have access in one way or another is finance whether via crowd funding, traditional investments, leveraging, or some other vehicle.

 

[Seeking Booty]

To the thing about gay baths for that purpose. I misread what what you wrote. I’ve stated that the current purpose or model of gay baths is sex. That’s wrong, what gays need is congregation, not sex.

You misread and I misread, please forgive me. The purpose is discussion of New jjimjilbang styled baths to replace the current ones AND gay baths primarily for gay men.

There’s no reason for any demographic to patronize businesses that hate them. Can you share any benefit in going somewhere you’re hated? Can you point to an example?

 

[BlackBearCognac]

That’s wrong, what gays need is congregation, not sex.

Then go to a gay bar. Or join a gay sports team. There are "gaymer" groups for those who enjoying playing video games. There are dozens of different ways for gays to safely and easily congregate in the US.

There’s no reason for any demographic to patronize businesses that hate them. Can you share any benefit in going somewhere you’re hated? Can you point to an example?

I agree, but clearly other people don't feel that way. Is there supposed to be a monolithic opinion here? As I said before, Korean spa owners are less driven by homophobia and more against inappropriate behavior.

Yes, the owners are typically more socially conservative and it sucks they prohibit cuddling by gay couples. But whatever? How often are people doing date night in a spa? From this thread I don't get the impression that's the primary draw.

Not true. There are no clubs like that for gay people. None. Name one, you cannot because they don’t exist.

SteamWorks, Clubhouse, The Locker Room, etc.

 

[Seeking Booty]

Then go to a gay bar. Or join a gay sports team. There are "gaymer" groups for those who enjoying playing video games. There are dozens of different ways for gays to safely and easily congregate in the US.



I agree, but clearly other people don't feel that way. Is there supposed to be a monolithic opinion here? As I said before, Korean spa owners are less driven by homophobia and more against inappropriate behavior.

Yes, the owners are typically more socially conservative and it sucks they prohibit cuddling by gay couples. But whatever? How often are people doing date night in a spa? From this thread I don't get the impression that's the primary draw.



SteamWorks, Clubhouse, The Locker Room, etc.

LOL! You are obviously a PR member of that industry.


I don't like gay bars and many who attend JJimjilbangs don't either. Keep your boxes, containers, and limitations to yourself. People are free to do whatever they want. If you are not a PR bobblehead for the Korean Spa Cartel, then continue going to whatever place hates you the most.

There is a demand for the service but the service comes with hate. The only remedy is for the market to decide.

Only a foolish person continues to surrender their money to someone who looks at it with contempt.

 

[sider]

I’m so confused….I thought that this is a thread for guys, like myself, that love to hear from other guys with similar interests, recommendations and likes and dislikes. This has always been one of my favorite threads. I feel like we all live vicariously through each other. Thank you to all the previous members that have shared so much of their experiences with us. I always feel that if they can do that, I should be able to do that too. Your posts inspire to push myself to experience the things I’ve been thing about inside me head for my whole life!! Maybe, just maybe I’ll meet some great people along the way and try some things that maybe I was to afraid to try. Love all of my fellow posters!! Keep over sharing those sexy stories!! Lol

 

[CaptainAmazing999]

To the thing about gay baths for that purpose. I misread what what you wrote. I’ve stated that the current purpose or model of gay baths is sex. That’s wrong, what gays need is congregation, not sex.

I'm confused. What the K-spas are objecting to is gay guys sexually fooling around in a space that was not intended to be sexualized, and I hear a lot of gay guys complaining that they can't do whatever they want sexually wherever they want.

As a straight guy, I started following this thread because I'm just looking for a place to relax naked in a safe space, just quietly hanging out in the primal brotherhood of men. There are no K-spas within a 6-hour radius of me, but there are several gay saunas/gyms/whatever.

If you're a gay man at a K-spa truly for "congregation, not sex," there's really no issue at all here, and no one has any right to make you feel unwelcome. But if you're going to a K-spa to get/give a blow job or jack another guy off or whatever, that isn't the place and I think you're being inconsiderate and entitled. It's not persecution of your sexual orientation if you're being a rude jerk. I think the rude jerks have earned the right to feel unwelcome and hope that means they will move that crap to a more appropriate venue.

Again speaking as a straight guy, this site has been really educational for me in seeing aspects of gay subculture that I don't otherwise see. It seems like there are a lot of gays on LPSG who are some serious jerks without respect or consideration for others. Not the least of which is getting thrills of spraying their semen in inappropriate settings that SOMEBODY is going to have to clean up, or doing sexual stuff with the goal of shocking "the straights." I've often encountered a sort of attitude of -- I don't even know a word for it -- a sort of "man-on-man misogyny" entitlement that reminds me of "Access Hollywood Tape" Trump. I find it ugly and sad.

 

[CaptainAmazing999]

People are free to do whatever they want.

...as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights or safety of others. But nobody in a civil society is free to do absolutely whatever they want wherever they want...and that includes Korean spas.

 

[Seeking Booty]

I'm confused. What the K-spas are objecting to is gay guys sexually fooling around in a space that was not intended to be sexualized, and I hear a lot of gay guys complaining that they can't do whatever they want sexually wherever they want.

As a straight guy, I started following this thread because I'm just looking for a place to relax naked in a safe space, just quietly hanging out in the primal brotherhood of men. There are no K-spas within a 6-hour radius of me, but there are several gay saunas/gyms/whatever.

If you're a gay man at a K-spa truly for "congregation, not sex," there's really no issue at all here, and no one has any right to make you feel unwelcome. But if you're going to a K-spa to get/give a blow job or jack another guy off or whatever, that isn't the place and I think you're being inconsiderate and entitled. It's not persecution of your sexual orientation if you're being a rude jerk. I think the rude jerks have earned the right to feel unwelcome and hope that means they will move that crap to a more appropriate venue.

Again speaking as a straight guy, this site has been really educational for me in seeing aspects of gay subculture that I don't otherwise see. It seems like there are a lot of gays on LPSG who are some serious jerks without respect or consideration for others. Not the least of which is getting thrills of spraying their semen in inappropriate settings that SOMEBODY is going to have to clean up, or doing sexual stuff with the goal of shocking "the straights." I've often encountered a sort of attitude of -- I don't even know a word for it -- a sort of "man-on-man misogyny" entitlement that reminds me of "Access Hollywood Tape" Trump. I find it ugly and sad.

What I've described is a pre-1990 gym environment, which is all Korean Spas are but without gym equipment. If you really look into it, Korean spas don't really serve any purpose other than to zap a minimum of $40 out of patrons' pockets. If pre-1990 gyms came back into existence with a few fancy rock saunas at a rate of $50-$100 per month plus massage fees, the K-Spas are essentially obsolete. And the sex you think all gay men are seeking would happen no more than it did in the last 3,000 years of gyms/Hammams/JJimjilbangs/Bannas/Sweat Lodges/Etc.


All I'm saying is that people do deserve to be able to go to a sauna and not smell other people's ass and feet like they do today. They also deserve to be able to go in a clean jacuzzi or pool without things floating. In a pre-1990 gym, it was mandatory that you clean the inside of your ass before entering water or heated area.

 

[Seeking Booty]

...as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights or safety of others. But nobody in a civil society is free to do absolutely whatever they want wherever they want...and that includes Korean spas.

We keep coming back to the same thing. My statements have been quite clear and you are either not reading or needlessly obfuscating. Please show me where anyone said any different. Please show in context, where anyone disagreed with you.

My point is that Korean spas hate gay men. And that is their right. I AM NOT AN ADVOCATE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 OR THE FORCED INTEGRATION COMING FROM IT!!!!! People should have a right to create their own small cauldrons of hate but the hated should be able to congregate away from them. Hated minority groups should be away from hateful majorities, because enduring hate is mentally destructive and a bit expensive.

There is literally no reason to pour out $40-$60 per visit just to be hated.


And if you are a paid PR bobblehead, then you'll just keep going back to the same trash without acknowledged understanding. So, there's that.

 

[BlackBearCognac]

We keep coming back to the same thing. My statements have been quite clear and you are either not reading or needlessly obfuscating. Please show me where anyone said any different. Please show in context, where anyone disagreed with you.

My point is that Korean spas hate gay men. And that is their right. I AM NOT AN ADVOCATE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 OR THE FORCED INTEGRATION COMING FROM IT!!!!! People should have a right to create their own small cauldrons of hate but the hated should be able to congregate away from them. Hated minority groups should be away from hateful majorities, because enduring hate is mentally destructive and a bit expensive.

There is literally no reason to pour out $40-$60 per visit just to be hated.


And if you are a paid PR bobblehead, then you'll just keep going back to the same trash without acknowledged understanding. So, there's that.

Honestly, your posts are borderline racist at this point. It's clear you have some weird bias against Korean people. It sounds like you had some poor experiences in the past — and sorry that happened to you — but stop generalizing it to literally all Korean spas. If you want to start your own spa establishment go ahead, but at this point why are you even posting in this thread.

 

[Seeking Booty]

Honestly, your posts are borderline racist at this point. It's clear you have some weird bias against Korean people. It sounds like you had some poor experiences in the past — and sorry that happened to you — but stop generalizing it to literally all Korean spas. If you want to start your own spa establishment go ahead, but at this point why are you even posting in this thread.

Korean culture saved my life. I love Korean culture and believe that it is highly important. However, there is a hate component. I love the Nation of Islam, The Honorable Elijah Muhammad, Minister WD Fard, etc, but blue eyed devil is not something to believe in. The Nation of Islam has a hate component, but is not all bad. I like white people, but there are Nazis and KKK, etc. White culture has a hate component and KKK members and Nazis are not all bad people. I think Indian culture, particularly Ayurvedic Medicine, the new technologies are great for moving humanity forward, but they do have a color and caste system hate component.

All cultures have hate components. Every last one of them. All people have a right to congregate or segregate as they please. It's a human right.

I really do think you are a PR bobblehead.

 

[CaptainAmazing999]

For example, straight couples can cuddle in common areas, but gay customers who paid the same are prohibited from even touching.

Are you saying clothed gay customers cuddling, clothed, in the common areas are prohibited from even touching while straight couples are not? If so, yes, that would definitely be discriminatory. If not, then no.

 

[Seeking Booty]

Are you saying clothed gay customers cuddling, clothed, in the common areas are prohibited from even touching while straight couples are not? If so, yes, that would definitely be discriminatory. If not, then no.

That is correct.

 

[deleted19265541]

Does anyone know if there is any Spas or bath houses in Bellingham?

 

[Are_we_there_now]

Any recent visits to Century and WiSpa where there has been a noticeable change in the last 60 days worthy of note? Making plans to chill out at both in the next week so would appreciate the heads-up if there is something to know.

 

[LockerRoomPA]

Was at Hacienda Joy Spa this
Monday and Saturday and I had fun both times. Seems like every guys is playing or don’t care guys are playing. Today this young stud was around but gave no signs of interest or play until we were in sauna together and he JO himself with other guys who didn’t play with themselves except for me. Was hot to see him pleasure himself until he shot his load.

 

[ShyLoyalKiddo]

Has anyone here attended "Pioneer" in Norwalk, CA?

A sniffies location appeared for it recently.

Does anyone have any cruising experience with it?

How cruisey is it in comparison to Century or Wilshire?

 

[Seeking Booty]

Has anyone here attended "Pioneer" in Norwalk, CA?

A sniffies location appeared for it recently.

Does anyone have any cruising experience with it?

How cruisey is it in comparison to Century or Wilshire?

Your posted picture explains it. It's not for gay cruising, but also Korean spas do have a deep heart felt hatred for gay people. That's whether or not they have sex; it's just for existing. Why keep giving them money?

 

[miamirt]

Can anyone tell me how King Spa is in Chicago. I’ve been to Dallas and it was amazing!!
Going to Chicago in a few weeks and may want to drop in for a few hours

 

[ShyLoyalKiddo]

More updates on the fate of Wilshire Spa.

It appears that SPA LA next door will take over, but it is unclear if it will be a womens only spa or if SPA LA will reopen the mens spa.

Keep a lookout for it during the summer of 2023.

If it reopens for men please tell us!