L-Citrulline and Grape Seed Extract?

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Anyone tried this combo for ED or EQ enhancement?

I have moderate venous leak so I'm always looking for something that has the potential to help me out. L-arginine + Pycnogenol was the best combo I tried in the past but Pycnogenol is really expensive so I stopped.

Apparently GSE is essentially the same thing as Pycnogenol but wayyy cheaper. L-Citrulline is a precursor to Arginine and has been proven to more effectively raise blood plasma levels of Arginine than Arginine itself, ironically.

Gonna give them a try and see how it goes.
 

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L-citrulline works very well. I don't have any issues, but it did provide a noticeable enhancement - to the point where I don't use it constantly because it becomes a bother. Sometimes you just want to get some work done, you know? ;)
 
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Been taking this combo for 4-5 days now.

I normally never wake up (in the middle of night or morning) with erections. And the rare times I do they're always pretty weak semis.

But I've been waking up with erections since I've been taking these. I'd qualify them as "strong semis". Due to my moderate venous leak I really can't get a raging hard on anymore without physical stimulation.

Definitely seems to be making a difference thus far! Nothing like a PDE5 but anything is better than nothing.
 

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I'm 56 year old and have moderate ED.
Before I was taking Viagra(50mg) prescripted by my Dr. But the side effects where too heavy. Also the timing for sex was artificial.
So my Dr gave me another option Zinc/Arginine/Pycogenol.
It's not like Viagra, but my erection quality has improved after 1 month of using it.

I'm taking a low dose of Zinc - daily 2 tablets of 5mg (so 10mg) for my prostate and 1 tablet of Prelox. ( 2 when having sex).
1 tablet costs almost 0.5 Euro - Zinc tablet not even 5 Eurocent. So total maximum montly cost : 20 Euro. So not so expensive for having a satisfied erection quality.



Info Prelox :
Serving Size 1 tablet
Servings Per Container 60
Amount Per Serving
Prelox® Proprietary Blend : 720 mg
L-Arginine HCl, Aspartic Acid, Pycnogenol® Dried French Maritime Pine (Pinus pinaster) extract (bark)

Icariin : 30mg [from Natural Sex® Epimedium sagittatum extract (aerial parts)]
Other ingredients: corn starch, maltodextrin, croscarmellose sodium, microcrystalline cellulose, vegetable stearate, silica, aqueous film coating (hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, glycerin, purified water).
Prelox® and Pycnogenol® are registered trademarks of Horphag Research Ltd. Prelox® is protected by U.S. patent #6,565,851B2. Pycnogenol® is protected by U.S. patents #5,720,956 and #6,372,266 and other international patents.
 
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From what I've read Grape Seed Extract and Pycnogenol do exactly the same thing. Except GSE is actually more potent and way cheaper (due to Pycnogenol having a controversial patent on it).

Also that L-Citrulline is far more effective at raising blood plasma levels of Arginine and Arginine is itself.

So from the research I've done I think the L-Citrulline/GSE combo is superior to L-Arginine/Pycnogenol.

I have not tried Zinc though.

Either way thanks for the personal testimonial. L-Arginine/Pycnogenol does work well, and hopefully my new combo is even better.
 

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shyyguy123,
gonna ask my dr. if there is a supplement like you described in pill or powder form.

Zinc, well I take that already for more than 10years for my prostate, but now in a very low dose.

I've an slightly enlarged prostate. When they detected it at age 45, I got immediate a zinc supplement of 2 pills of 30mg of zinc sulfate for 2 months, and then a check-up again..
Now I'm on a maintenance dose of 10mg daily as zinc in high doses for a long period is toxic. Check-up yearly, and the least I can say - it's not pleasant, but the prostate hasn't increased in volume. It's status quo.
Many MD's (in Belgium) prescript zinc to men once 50, as there is a natural decline in zinc.

And you know what they say about oysters and pumpkin seeds, well they are one of the best naturally high sources of zinc.
Just I don't like raw oysters.
( According to wiki : zinc increases sperm count and sperm motility. High zinc levels also mean lower levels of estrogen and prolactin thereby reducing the risk of prostate disease. )
( According to my doc : each time you ejaculate you loose approx 5mg zinc )
 
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Just wanted to update this if anyone cares.

Been taking the L-Citrulline/Grape Seed Extract combo for about a month now. 2.5 grams of L-Citrulline and 250 mg of Grape Seed Extract per day.

It's definitely made a noticeable difference. Like I noted earlier in the thread, a lot more night/morning erections (which are great for penis health).

Also harder erections that do last a bit longer (though not a night and day difference yet).

The biggest positive thus far is that it seems to make the PDE5s like viagra/cialis (which I require for sex due to venous leak) far more effective. Probably because both Citrulline and GSE both work on the production of nitric oxide. In the past PDE5s alone were not enough to allow to maintain an erection long enough for sex. I'd require a cock ring in addition, and even then I still didn't have a great success rate.

But since I've been using this combo I've been with 2 women and I was confident enough to not even reach for my cock ring. I had sex with one of them and just fooled around with the other. But in both cases I was able to maintain my erection far longer, without stimulation or a cock ring, than I ever have before.

Not sure if it's due to the L-Citrulline/GSE rehabilitating my penile tissue over the past month or solely due to it making the PDE5 more potent. Perhaps both.

But either way I definitely plan on continuing to take these supplements. In fact I'll probably even up the dosage to 5g citrulline and 400mg GSE next time I have to replenish my stock.

Warning though for anyone who read all of this. L-Citrulline and Grape Seed Extract both act on nitric oxide just like PDE5s do so there probably is potential for a negative interaction like low blood pressure or something. Just something to keep in mind if you want to experiment with it yourself. On days you want to take a PDE5 I'd wouldn't go overboard with your Citrulline/GSE dosage.
 
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Other than L-citrulline and GSE what else would be recommended for harder erections. I want that extra push but not sure where to start. I take 1.5 grams of L-Citrulline but never tried Grape Seed before.
 
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Try Grape Seed Extract then? It's one of the most potent antioxidants out there and it has a million other health benefits too. The main plus for your sex life being that it helps produce nitric oxide.

As for others...

I've heard pomegranate juice is quite effective in ramping up your sex life. It has been shown to significantly increase both testosterone and blood flow. Just be careful because it has potentially severe interactions with PDE5s like viagra/cialis/levitra.

Horny Goat Weed (Icariin) is proven to be a mild PDE5. You just have to find a really concentrated blend, which are fairly rare. The standard 10% did nothing for me.
 

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Bump because I just came across this thread in a Google search on GSE..

I've done a ton of research on grape seed extract /pine bark extract for high blood pressure.

(And as it turns out a possible remedy for a bit of performance anxiety impotence that I've struggled with for my entire adult life when with a new woman for the first time.)

Many legit studies have shown the above two to be pretty fuckin decent, especially when combined with l-citrulline.

(Maybe not so much for performance anxiety ED...but definitely for ED due to naturally low nitric oxide levels.)

Also.. Nitric oxide supplements are popular with the bodybuilding crowd. I'd imagine a GSE and l-citrulline stack are a good bit cheaper than 90% of the shit you see advertised in men's health and muscle and fitness.
 

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Forgot to mention it seems like viable option for high blood pressure. Fuck with your Dr. of course, but I'll be taking it to keep high blood pressure.

And if it happens to gives me harder hard-ons..sign me up.