1. Tense0000

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    I dislike society and its fucking labels. If it feels right, you go for it and enjoy it. Why does it have to make you gay, bi, straight? If in my life, someone crosses my path, whether female or male, and I have strong sexual feelings for them...it is how I feel about that person, that moment. Why the satisfaction of a label ? Why the quick "so what are you?"
    Especially something so natural as sexual attraction to another human being.
    I understand and respect the gay lifestyle. I understand and respect the hetero lifestyle. If one chooses to follow strictly one of the two, more power to them. But what if you do not fall in either and are just looking for the right connection with someone.....anyone....

    Why should I be classified? Is it so wrong hating to be labeled?
     
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    Sounds like you need to learn to rationalize things before acting out. Not everyone has to know about your sexual preferences, and you can also be more discrete with your sexual encounters. It is possible to live your life without everyone knowing your business.
     
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    I feel the same way.
     
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    Labels, terms, categories, types, kinds, etc. are all the way the society, science and people in general try to do to make sense of things. Of course too much of it can be 'bureaucratic' and not good. But labeling and categorizing things make things seem to be organized and easier to handle. Not just about sexual orientation, in terms of mental health, physical health, and other things, academicians tend to categorize and label things, because it'd be easier when the same thing occurs. And these labels are not due to convenience, it's based on careful observation on the features of each specific label, or what we usually call symptoms or, well, features.

    So, when you in a sensible degree, give your sexual orientation a definition, it'd be easier for you to learn who you are and deal with issues, should they occur.

    This is just my opinion though. But I agree with excessive labelling can be disastrous to certain extent.
     
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    The problem isnt't so much the labels in themselves, it's the way society is so uneducated in their use.

    People seem to think that one event dictates entire sexual lifestyle. That's not the case. A guy can suck another guy and that is correctly described as a "homosexual act", but it doesn't make the participants homosexual, or even bisexual.

    Taking fetish into account throws the entire social misconception into the harsh light of day. Most men have a fetish for masturbation IMO. And an extension of that is the enjoyment of watching other men do it too. This is something that is routinely overlooked in sexual studies and research.
    It's the most prevalent sexual act, many believe it can be more pleasurable than sex, and yet it's routinely ignored in almost every major sexual study of modern times.

    If we were being completely honest, and if we accept the basic principles of the labels, the vast majority of men are not 100% heterosexual. I'd even say that the true minorities are those who claim to be 100% straight or 100% gay.

    Bisexuality is the majority IMO. And even then, society is dumb enough to believe that this means you want to stick your dick up another guy and shag girls too, and that it's 50/50.

    So, labels are a problem, but the sexual ignorance throughout society makes the use of then far more restricting and problematic.
     
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    I prefer post-it notes over labels. Notes are not as sticky - and don't leave an ugly residue when you take them off.
     
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    I agree.

     
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    OH yes, I hate labels to the farthest degree. Its not just being labeled as bi straight or gay, its also about your life style whether your a nerd, dress in black, or anything of that matter. Its so annoying to be labeled something your not.
     
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    yeah labels sukk
     
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    I was very aware of labels growing up. Like many teenagers, I was surrounded by people (that I) defined using labels like nerds, geeks, jocks, beautiful people, and the gays. That made it really tough on myself as I dealt with same-sex attraction...because I also knew I never wanted to wear a dress, I didn't lisp, and I didn't sing, act or dance. So in my world of labels...what the fuck was I? There was no "non dress-wearing, non-lisping, non-singing/acting/dancing and likes some guys and some girls" label. My use of labels might have been annoying to those around me, but it hit me hardest of all by boxing me into a corner that I was unable/unwilling to step out of.

    I never did sort it out myself. After college, I attended the wedding of one of my best friends from high school [label: art chick]. Though she had gone militant lesbian during college, she later fell head-over-heels in love with a guy and married him. I asked her how this happened and she replied that she fell in love with people, not genders. In other words...she connected mentally/spiritually with people - women and men - and the sex followed. Once she explained her perspective, I knew it was pretty close to how I felt about things. A month later, I had a long talk with my best friend and told him that I wanted to explore a same-sex experience...I remember specifically not using the word "gay" or "bisexual" in the conversation in order to avoid the labels. The rest is history.

    So when LPSG gave me the opportunity to fill in a little profile information on my percentage of straight to gay, I never did fill it out. That's not what I am. I can lust after a guy with a huge schlong one minute, and then not be able to take my eyes off a woman I'm standing close to on the metro. When someone asks me to describe what I am...my answer is usually along the lines "I've done a little bit of everything", and hopefully they will get it. Of course, some people then reply "Oh, so you're bi!" Doh!

    I agree with the OP. Labels are for soup cans.
     
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    I don't mind labels. I am a lot of things to different peeps. A soul within a person isn't limited to those definitions or stereotypes. People will confirm who they are and what they are about. And deny whatever else.








     
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    one positive aspect of using a label is that it lets others know whether to flirt with you or not.
    Think of it as marketing. Shoppers want to know the price before they buy!
     
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    I agree with you to a certain extent, but not completely.

    Things do come up in conversation, even in a business setting. For example, if you mention seeing a movie, people are likely to ask with whom you went. Of course one does not need to answer, but not answering a friendly question is a bit awkward when most people would answer. If it's always a male friend, people will make certain assumptions. Of course one could lie, but feeling compelled to lie is basically destructive.

    So, although not everyone must know about a person's sexual orientation or activities, it is often impossible to conceal that information without either lying or being conspicuously evasive.
     
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    exwhyzee says it very well. I find that I'm not attracted sexually/emotionally to every person who goes bye whether girl or guy. So I'm not sure I even have a preference. So far I'd say that I prefer the people who I like or love. I know this is difficult for a society that likes to pigeon-hole everybody. Part of it does seem political in that gay people don't have equal rights so defining a group makes sense from that POV. But personally I don't think I can control who I'm attracted to or who I fall in love with. Good thread btw.:biggrin1:



     
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    To label is to be human. Everything has a category, even things that don't fit in anything else, miscellaneous. Our brains just do it to make sense of things. If there was somehow no such thing as homosexuality (and by extension bisexuality), we wouldn't label people as straight, because it would be a non issue, a useless category. The important thing, and it has been said earlier, is what you do with the labels. Even all of you who hate labels, you still probably think of some people as hot, some as ugly (or not attractive if you want to be nice), mean, snobby, kind, powerful, etc. You label people all of the time. You see a guy at the mall, and you like his close, maybe his a snappy dresser. Bam, you just labeled him as "snappy dresser", or "fashionable", or whatever one you like. I think one problem is that you think of labels in too broad of a sense, like ex did in high school. I would never try to use one label for "non dress-wearing, non-lisping, non-singing/acting/dancing and likes some guys and some girls", there are just too many variables, not enough constants or near constants. I like to be specific. Gay really only encompasses one thing in my opinion. That as far as I know, that person predominately is attracted to people of the same sex. I don't have put in likes clothes, can do hair, knows how to do makeup, because I know those aren't always true. So if I want to be more broad, I just combine them as I need. A gay guy who knows how to dress well? A fashionable gay guy. Whoop de fuck.

    This isn't to say that some labels aren't bad, like "fag" and other slurs, but even without the label, if they don't like you, they aren't going to like you whether they call you a fairy, queer, fag, or just gay or homosexual. They already have a negative image of what they think you are.

    The power isn't in the labels, it's in the people. Remember, you already have to have some kind of thought or idea to label something. You don't put a label on a folder, then look inside to see if it really is about science. You use information you gather and process to then put a label on it. It's just a tab or handle for our brain to use.
     
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    I agree that observations are fine (ie: she smells nice; he is dating a male). However, labels that I might attach to the same behaviors might not be true (ie: she is a clean freak; he is gay). Labels imply simplified classifications or stereotypes that are based on assumptions. Think of it along similar lines as the difference between objective perception versus subjective classification. Ie: She may indeed be a clean freak...or maybe she spilled perfume on herself. He may be gay...or maybe he just left a relationship with a woman.
     
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    I dont mind labels. In fact, going grocery shopping would really suck if labels didn't exist.

    What if someone really wanted a clean freak? What if a guy wanted a feisty chick? Or a gay guy was looking for a feminine male? It's ok to have labels, it helps people see what categories there are and what they might want to take off the shelf and put in their proverbial basket if you know what i mean.

    The label might not appeal to you...but it surely might appeal to someone. The label keyword might really ring a bell within someone hearing about you.
     
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