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66 year old here,relativly healthy male. Some blood pressure issues and on HRT for low testosterone. The past few years my ejaculate has dwindled to zero. Now I know there are some age related issues and hormone replacement issues which do not help. I also know there are medical conditions which cause the ejaculate to go back into the bladder. Iv'e tried going to a urologist for an explanation but all he wanted to do was a full physical work over and alter my HRT replacement teraphy with out even consulting my internist. I have absolute confidence in my internist's ability to monitor my overall health issues. He is the one who started me on HRT. I see him once a month for bloodwork and for general health issues. So I see no need to to circumvent his findings and repeat many of the tests and therapies that are working fine so far. It's a little embarassing to speak about ( why would any 66 year old be concerned about shooting out a cum load). But I miss being able to blow my load. Really use to like squirting my man juice all over the wife. Both of us thought is was sexy and erotic. My question is: does anyone know of a cure for not ejaculating? I even have investigated how the porn industry make use of fake cum. It sounds crazy but if there was a safe way of injecting fake cum into the bladder I would try it on occasion. It's not the end of the world but I truly do miss it.
 
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I'm 48 and in the last couple years in has become pretty difficult to orgasm and when I do I have very little ejaculate. I really miss shooting ropes of cum and how great it felt. If you find any solutions please share them with me!
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I'm 48 and in the last couple years in has become pretty difficult to orgasm and when I do I have very little ejaculate. I really miss shooting ropes of cum and how great it felt. If you find any solutions please share them with me!
Chris
Absolutely Chris. There has to be a way to fix this problem.
 
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...I even have investigated how the porn industry make use of fake cum. It sounds crazy but if there was a safe way of injecting fake cum into the bladder I would try it on occasion. It's not the end of the world but I truly do miss it.

I have to say I am not quite how this would help. I have never tried it but, as the liquid is coming from your bladder, presumably the technique is the same one you can use to make your piss come out in spurts and would probably feel more that than a normal ejaculation. That kind of trickery is for the benefit of the observer, not the performer.
 
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I've used testosterone gel prescribed by my urologist to good effect. However, the side effect was that I started to loose the hair of my head. I had a talk with the urologist, and he prescribed me "Finasterid" that is used to prevent the growth of the prostate; it has a clinically studied side effect of preventing hair loss!. That was OK, and I eventually doubled the dose, as advised, from half a pill daily to a full single pill. That had a dire impact on the ejaculation, and it started to turn inwards into the bladder. I had a heart to heart with the urologist and an ultrasound of the prostate. It was not enlarged, so he said if I don't mind losing hair with the testosterone gel, I should have my ejaculations back. I dropped the Finasterid, and in about 3-4 days I was soothing the kind of big boy pools I was used to.

In-turned ejaculations are a matter to talk with a urologist, and one way or the other they involve changes in the prostate.
 
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Just turned 67 in December. Several years ago I discovered Aneros toys, and have learned how to have a prostate orgasm, also milk my prostate with the toy. With my ass nerves alive, my nipples supercharged in the whole process, I can relax, and just start working my nips (left hand on rt nip, right hand on left nip) my prostate starts to throb and get hard. The pleasure is massive, and the orgasm when my cock starts to pump, even in a semi erect state is unreal. I still can get wood at night, and when jacking with my wood, the orgasm does not shoot much, but the sensations and bucking are at the next level in pleasure. Working my prostate has made any penal orgasm increase in sensation, even with a bit of clear liquid.

I think the common thinking is that once one gets older, men are no longer interested in orgasm. I have talked with primary care docs, also a urologist when I had a stone removed a while back, they tend not to have answers or much care once one has lots of gray hair. Check out the Forum at Aneros, lots of experiences to read. The whole process has made me more mindful of my body, and the intensity of pleasure from being horny constantly.
 

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Just turned 67 in December. Several years ago I discovered Aneros toys, and have learned how to have a prostate orgasm, also milk my prostate with the toy. With my ass nerves alive, my nipples supercharged in the whole process, I can relax, and just start working my nips (left hand on rt nip, right hand on left nip) my prostate starts to throb and get hard. The pleasure is massive, and the orgasm when my cock starts to pump, even in a semi erect state is unreal. I still can get wood at night, and when jacking with my wood, the orgasm does not shoot much, but the sensations and bucking are at the next level in pleasure. Working my prostate has made any penal orgasm increase in sensation, even with a bit of clear liquid.

I think the common thinking is that once one gets older, men are no longer interested in orgasm. I have talked with primary care docs, also a urologist when I had a stone removed a while back, they tend not to have answers or much care once one has lots of gray hair. Check out the Forum at Aneros, lots of experiences to read. The whole process has made me more mindful of my body, and the intensity of pleasure from being horny constantly.
Sounds like I'll have to give it a try. We already do a little fingering and.pegging at my request..Would be better if the wife was more enthusiastic and dominant but at least she participated.
 
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I've used testosterone gel prescribed by my urologist to good effect. However, the side effect was that I started to loose the hair of my head. I had a talk with the urologist, and he prescribed me "Finasterid" that is used to prevent the growth of the prostate; it has a clinically studied side effect of preventing hair loss!. That was OK, and I eventually doubled the dose, as advised, from half a pill daily to a full single pill. That had a dire impact on the ejaculation, and it started to turn inwards into the bladder....

Did your urologist ever explain the rationale for this treatment?

Some of the sexual characteristics we usually attribute to testosterone are actually due to a variant called dihydrotestosterone (DHT) which is created from testosterone by the enzyme 5α-reductase. Male pattern baldness and an enlarged prostate (BPH) are among those characteristics. Finasteride relieves those conditions by inhibiting 5α-reductase and thus reducing the proportion of testosterone in your blood that gets converted to DHT.

So the big question from your treatment plan is whether a reduction in DHT which should reduce any BPH will have that effect independently of the prostate's glands ability to make prostatic fluid. Having not read any studies on the subject, if I had to guess, I would expect that they would not be independent, i.e. the reduction in DHT causes a reduction in BPH by "shutting down" the prostate. Yet your treatment plan of increasing testosterone while reducing the proportion converted to DHT, assumes that BPH and general prostate activity are not linked, i.e. general prostate activity is not driven by DHT.
 
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Hi, thanks for this comment. My urologist did not explain the rationale. He simply said that taking Finasteride has been known to cause inward ejaculation into the bladder. So, I stopped taking Finasteride as I've had no problems of the prostate enlarging, the PSA test results have been excellent, and I don't mind losing some hair off my head if I can ejaculate normally. My original reason for needing the testosterone therapy is - with about 90% certainty - the long term side effect of having received chemotherapy. The urologist said, after several comparative blood tests, that my pituitary gland keeps commanding the testicles to produce testosterone "but the factory is not functioning properly". When tested, my testosterone levels before treatment were between 7 and 10. With the testosterone gel treatment the level's been 16-25.


Did your urologist ever explain the rationale for this treatment?

Some of the sexual characteristics we usually attribute to testosterone are actually due to a variant called dihydrotestosterone (DHT) which is created from testosterone by the enzyme 5α-reductase. Male pattern baldness and an enlarged prostate (BPH) are among those characteristics. Finasteride relieves those conditions by inhibiting 5α-reductase and thus reducing the proportion of testosterone in your blood that gets converted to DHT.

So the big question from your treatment plan is whether a reduction in DHT which should reduce any BPH will have that effect independently of the prostate's glands ability to make prostatic fluid. Having not read any studies on the subject, if I had to guess, I would expect that they would not be independent, i.e. the reduction in DHT causes a reduction in BPH by "shutting down" the prostate. Yet your treatment plan of increasing testosterone while reducing the proportion converted to DHT, assumes that BPH and general prostate activity are not linked, i.e. general prostate activity is not driven by DHT.
 

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Hi, thanks for this comment. My urologist did not explain the rationale. He simply said that taking Finasteride has been known to cause inward ejaculation into the bladder. So, I stopped taking Finasteride as I've had no problems of the prostate enlarging, the PSA test results have been excellent, and I don't mind losing some hair off my head if I can ejaculate normally. My original reason for needing the testosterone therapy is - with about 90% certainty - the long term side effect of having received chemotherapy. The urologist said, after several comparative blood tests, that my pituitary gland keeps commanding the testicles to produce testosterone "but the factory is not functioning properly". When tested, my testosterone levels before treatment were between 7 and 10. With the testosterone gel treatment the level's been 16-25.

So it was I that mentioned BPH, not you, perhaps because that is the other condition commonly treated with Finasteride.

So reading your original message I am not clear if a less copious ejaculation was one of the symptoms of low testosterone prior to using the gel, or whether it only became a problem once starting to take Finasteride.

You mention retrograde ejaculation do you think there is an assumption that this is the only cause of reduced volume with advancing age? Is it the only cause? It seems to me that low testosterone, and in particular low DHT*, would cause little volume for a different reason, i.e. that the prostate in particular, and maybe the seminal vesicles too, need hormonal stimulation to work and, in the absense of it, "go to sleep".

* you obviously can't have anything but low DHT if your testosterone is low. However much 5α-reductase you have, if there isn't that much T to convert there can't be much DHT as an output.
 

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Retrograde ejaculation only with taking Finasteride. If I take 1/4 Finasteride pill, I ejaculate still a fair deal, I take 1/2 pill, I shoot a bit but annoyingly little. I take a whole pill, the ejaculation is totally retrograde. When I give up Finasteride, I shoot normally in 4-5 days again. If I skip 1-2 days of jacking, my loads have about the same biggish volume as 10-20 years ago.


]So it was I that mentioned BPH, not you, perhaps because that is the other condition commonly treated with Finasteride.

So reading your original message I am not clear if a less copious ejaculation was one of the symptoms of low testosterone prior to using the gel, or whether it only became a problem once starting to take Finasteride.

You mention retrograde ejaculation do you think there is an assumption that this is the only cause of reduced volume with advancing age? Is it the only cause? It seems to me that low testosterone, and in particular low DHT*, would cause little volume for a different reason, i.e. that the prostate in particular, and maybe the seminal vesicles too, need hormonal stimulation to work and, in the absense of it, "go to sleep".

* you obviously can't have anything but low DHT if your testosterone is low. However much 5α-reductase you have, if there isn't that much T to convert there can't be much DHT as an output.[/QUOTE]