Ladies, ever considered dancing?

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socoken said:
... strip clubs play on mens egos. most any guy will leave a strip club thinking he could have gotten laid for free, or that one girl really liked him. i KNOW thats the game girls play, its how they get your money, but i still get lost in it. its the fantasy, that these hot naked girls want a guy like me. the good ones really sell it. its more about working the crowd, and flirting, than it is about looking good naked or dancing well.

yes, that is what I was referring to. Even if you could avoid the drugs and stuff, you would still have to get good at conning men out of a lot of money by selling something false. Not that this is very hard of anything, lol, but it must come with some kind of psychological cost.
 

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JMeister said:
If you can make $2000 per weekend why would you care about having a Monday to Friday job?

If you have an addictive personality you'll get hooked into the drugs and such. but if you don't and you are shrewd, you can make a lot of money and have plenty of time to pursue other interests.

As far as relationships, I suspect some guys would get turned on by it, some guys would stay far away from you and many guys would get turned on by it until you got into a serious relationship at which point they would want you to give it up.

For me it would depend on the type of place and the individual. If it was a strip joint where men could touch I wouldn't go near you. If it was a no touch joint I have no problems with that. Then it would just depend on chemistry, values, goals, etc.

1) In answer to your first question...Let's say that I drop my 8-5 day job and go become a stripper. I make mad cash for a couple years doing it and then decide that I've enough money saved up to start making some real progess with my life. I go to school and then I go out and try to get a job. My resume (which is impeccable, btw. I write fucking bomb resumes) shows that I've not had a job in years.

OR I could just put on there that I'm a stripper. lol I plan on being a child psychologist or a school teacher someday. Now...........who's going to hire me after seeing that on my resume?

2) I'm on probation. :rolleyes: Drugs aren't a problem for me right now and wont be for another two years.

3) Relationships? lol....I live the swinger lifestyle, love. I don't do those normal one on one relationships. They're too confining. I'm a very open, casual, person...........I don't indulge in serious relationships. I'm too young to be bothered.

4) I should have been more specific. Here in Texas, the strip clubs that I'm refering to are just topless. The men here can touch you. They can do just about anything short of fuck you. The laws are very loose.
 

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Given this additional informaiton, IMHO stipping would lead you into a downward spiral so I would stay away from it.

You are much better off finding a guy or girl that wants steady side action and has a fat wallet to pay for it.
 

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Are you calling me a whore? What does a television show have to do with what we're talking about? You closest brush with a strip club is from an HBO series? You should read for content next time. *nods*
 

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Get used to defending yourself about it. No woman that made her living off of lying to and deceiving men and profitting from sex would convince me she wasnt a whore. im not saying all strippers are, i know from personal experience they arent all like that. I love strippers, they are fun and they know how to party. But she just couldnt make me think she was never a whore, just that she wasnt at the time.

Ludacris said it best, "You cant turn a ho into a housewife"

You might not want a relationship now, but realize you might someday, and that means a relationship built on lies.
 

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Heather LouAnna said:
Guys: What's your take on strippers? Do you go to these gentlemen clubs? Got any good stripclub stories?
Well to start out with the obvious... strippers are extremely sexy and provocative. I've gone to strip clubs maybe 10 times. I guess maybe I'm different from other guys, because while the strippers are very hot, I've never been under the impression that they actually liked me. Clearly, they only want my money, much in the same way a car salesman is your "buddy". When all my partners in crime and I arrive, it's more about us having fun, buying eachother lap dances (always funnier when it's the oldest one), high fives, big cigars, etc. I've never gone to a strip club becuase I'm lonely. I guess that would make me a bad costomer, since I'm much less likely to cash my financial aid check for a night of relative fun.

My girlfriend has commented that she's thought (fantasized?) about being a stripper, not seriously however (Maybe it was a round-a-bout way of saying she needs more attention) I'm glad for that, because while it would be hot to date a stripper, it would definatly go against the image that I have of myself. I'm definatly a bit of a prude... but people are different and you can do whatever will make you happy. Life is about finding things that give you fullfillment and satisfaction.

However, that being said, you have to realize that there are consiquences for every decision. There will be some people who will look down on you, and you'd have to take that in stride and not be overly upset when it happens. Of course there are also going to be good aspects, you'll meet alot of new people, and the money would be great too!
 

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wsu said:
However, that being said, you have to realize that there are consiquences for every decision. There will be some people who will look down on you, and you'd have to take that in stride and not be overly upset when it happens. Of course there are also going to be good aspects, you'll meet alot of new people, and the money would be great too!

That's to be said about anything. heh
 

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You, my dear, misinterpreted my posting and are calling yourself a whore. I made no such reference.

I merely stated that perhaps, for you, a Tony Soprano style arrangement of having yourself a Sugar Daddy might be better for you than stripping.

The reality is that most of those arrangements don't last very long (<1year) as people with money tend to get bored with sameness.


Besides is being a whore such a bad thing. Americans in particular seem to have a problem with sex for money.

I have been to many strip joints in my days of sales. They are all about taking your money. If you have a good time in the process and think it's worth the cost enjoy. If not sit at the bar and watch everyone else open their wallets.
 

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If I could get paid to take my clothes off and shake my ass around I would do it with no problem. If my girl wanted to do it fine by me. Its a dog eat dog world gotta make money somehow. Its like being a model who wouldn't like that, you get paid just to be you. Same thing with strippers.
 

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Skull Mason said:
If I could get paid to take my clothes off and shake my ass around I would do it with no problem. If my girl wanted to do it fine by me. Its a dog eat dog world gotta make money somehow. Its like being a model who wouldn't like that, you get paid just to be you. Same thing with strippers.

Dude, who wouldn't pay your hot Jersey self to take off your clothes and dance around nekkid?
 

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Skull Mason said:
If I could get paid to take my clothes off and shake my ass around I would do it with no problem.
Guys make just as much money doing it. ;) I'd one friend that'd never danced before and he went to a ladies club with a bunch of girls. It turned out to be amanteur night and he was pulled up on stage. He was just in jeans and a tshirt. One of the ladies that worked there gave him a black gstring to dance in. He made $500 that one night.

Skull Mason said:
f my girl wanted to do it fine by me.

Fuck me bloody? :)
 

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Skull Mason said:
If I could get paid to take my clothes off and shake my ass around I would do it with no problem.

Most strippers probobly wish that was all they had to do too, but the reality is to earn good money you have to dry hump middle aged men... I'm just guessing of course but I know that each stripper is only on stage once every couple hours, and when they are they only recieve $1 bills typically... real money comes from lap dances
 

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Heather LouAnna said:
lol....WELL.....From the beginning of this year:

A mental health worker at a children's psychiatric facility, with ages four to twelve.
Daycare school teacher, ages five to twelve.
Clinical Technician at a research center for adult volunteer bi-polars and schizophrenics.
And now I do...technical support for a Fortune 500 company.

Wow, that really sounds like I switch jobs often. Trust to know that it's because I couldn't stand to work with crazies (face to face) anymore. :rolleyes:

Hehe, well it sounds like you at least like to work with people a lot in your jobs. I haven't been a stripper, nor do I know much about it, but I'm not sure you would get as much personal relationship contact in it as you did in your past jobs. It seems like a more anonymous position to me.

Also some of the posts in this topic about drugs and other shaddy-side problems would scare me away from it lol. Unfortunately it must not be as easy as "getting naked and dancing," but I guess no professions are as simple as their basic functions.
 

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Kotchanski said:
As for conning men out of money. Well that just makes me laugh. A stripper goes to work, takes her cloths off and dances around for a bit, does a few lap dances, goes home, a guy goes into a strip club to see these strippers, and knows that his money will get him more attention, there really is no con (Unless your as thick at month old milk)

I think the people who were talking about conning were viewing the profession in a more broad sense. I.e. you set up a place with nude women in order to suck men in and get them to spend money.

Your analysis is on a micro level and would likely be correct. A person who already has decided to go to the strip club, knows that it will cost them money. They are already a consumer of the product.

The conning comes in with people who either have never gone before or are not regular customers. Both can be lured in and exploited because they lack knowledge of the way the club works.
 

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socoken said:
........... i would date a stripper, i have a couple times, but i wouldnt marry one.............

I did marry one! Not because she was a stripper I hasten to add. In fact she'd just retired from stripping and her agency kept offering her jobs for about the next 5 years. Yes, she was THAT popular!

Heatherlou, don't listen to all that rubbish about strippers being drunks and junkies. Sure some of them are, but so are some of the girls who work in banks, hospitals, etc. In fact I expect there are far more addicts in the nursing professions. I know you are bright enough and secure enough not to become a drunk or a junkie whatever profession you choose, so don't worry on that score.

My wife spent at least 10 years as an exotic dancer in and around London, and because of the connections she made socially she also did a few small parts in movies, TV series', documentaries, etc.

All kinds of dancing (and singing, acting, etc.) require that you get into the role and act. That's fine guys. It doesn't mean that the singer or dancer loses their ability to have intimacy with their lover/partner. Sure there are some vulnerable damaged girls who become strippers, sex workers etc. but there are vulnerable damaged girls (and boys) in all sorts of jobs. It's just that a lot of people disapprove of stripping and tend to believe the mythology.

The vast majority of the pubs and clubs my wife worked in were well run and the girls' boundaries were well protected. After all, if the girls didn't like a venue, they'd tell the agent. It's just the same for musicians. If a band plays a gig in a rough pub where people start throwing bottles or stealing their gear - they don't go back. They also tell their mates and soon none of the local bands will take bookings for that pub. It's just the same with dancers. They know each other. They are in it together. And most of them are very nice, intelligent, fun people.

The clothes dancers wear need to be better made than the flimsy cheap crap you find in sex shops. Sex shop clothes are novelty items and are designed to appeal to guys who buy them in the hope of getting their partner to wear them in the bedroom. They rarely fit properly, and just get thrown away. Dancer's clothes (bra's, corsets, g'strings, etc. have to be cut well so that they flatter the figure. They have to have good fastners (my wife has some good stories about stuck zippers), and they need to last. Shoes are a nightmare, as they have to be strong, supportive and well balanced, as well as fit perfectly AND look sexy. It's a tall order. When my wife found a pair that worked for her she'd go back and buy another pair or two, then when one broke, she could have it fixed whilst she carried on working. You have to look after your feet. Sensible dancers (and models) never wear high heels off stage.
If you'd like some more advice Heather please feel free to PM me and I'll get my wife to write to you.
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