large penis=good

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  1. Imported

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    dhq412: Hi,

    I was hoping someone could give me a history lesson:)

    I was wondering when/how a large penis became a "good"/"manly" thing to possess. Some of you may say it doesn't matter the size, but there is definitely something there in society which says a large penis is wonderful, and a small penis is "funny" There definitely wasn't an exact moment, but whats the earliest refrence in history that you can think of? I am just wondering this because I know in ancient Greece, a small penis was a "good" thing and a large penis was considered that of a fool or savage. I would like to know how that belief came around, but that history is probably more concealed than modern history. So, hopefully some of you can help :)

    Thanks,
    dhq


    PS: sorry for using so many quotations around words :)
     
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    malito: They may have been conxidered foolish in ancient Greece, but they have been almost if not truily worshiped throughout history. In ancient Pompie there are paintings that still exist showing the importance of a large penis. Ancient Egypt also has its elevation of the penis, just look at some of the pillars in their temples. Men with big penises may have been thought fools, but they were nearly diefied in the ancient world.
     
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    i know what you are talking about...
    like in the past women who had more weight were considered sexier
    than skinny women....and now 'thin is in"...
    hmmm...
    not sure about the dick thing though...
     
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    stillwantmore22: Ask the Bible: Ezekial 23:20 (depending on what version you have) "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." HEY I didnt say it...it's in one of the oldest books in the world.
     
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    dhq412: hi, interesting thought istillwantmore22,

    but that might be an odd version of the bible you are reading. In my king james version(I usually read this or NIV) that scripture is " For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses."

    that would be a mighty interesting though if they sold that one version of the bible alot, maybe they have it in those porn shops ?:)
     
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    What do you know?

    that exact 'explicit' quote is in
    The New International Version (also known
    as Good News) distributed
    by the international Bible Society of East Brunswick, NJ..haaaaa...who knew?
    Well, i guess my roommate did...it is his...
     
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    hung: This thread just goes to show that there is really nothing new under the Sun. We think we have invented sex!!!! We think we have invented most everything!!!
     
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    Finedessert: If Al Gore invented the internet he might have invented sex too.........

    Grandpa
     
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    It goes back to Homo erectus. LOL Seriously, it seems to be a near-universal thing. Ithyphallic fertility gods are fairly common around the world.
     
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    Icarus213: This is a good discussion topic.

    I agree with the earlier post about a large penis being worshipped in the ancient world. Even if more civilized societies like Greece and Rome looked down on it (the more artistic statues like the David show average or small ones), I think it was only in response to the prevailing view that size was a good thing.

    I think the reason for this is simple: that a large dick just makes you think of sex. It's a powerful psychological tool, and it always has been. Maybe the fear and controversy it inspires has made civilization play it down more, but I think it has always been a symbol of something good and manly.
     
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    'David' is not an ancient work of art, though. It is from the Renaissance. David's tallywhacker has been discussed on LPSG before. Michelangelo was not striving for accuracy, but an artistic ideal. If you'll notice, David's tool is uncut; we know better than that, but to Westerners in the time of the Renaissance, the look of an uncircumcised penis was unfamiliar and 'inelegant'. Michelangelo opted for the more aesthetically pleasing uncut look. Also, David's wienie is decidedly small. Probably because his genitalia is not supposed to be the focus of Mike's great opus; a big whanger on innocent-looking David would be distracting. (However, check out Dave's ass ... that's a fine set of glutes on the dude!)
    When you look at some of the ancient Greek sculptures, you'll notice some fertility gods (e.g. Priapos, Pan, Silenos) have truly impressive members. On the other hand, Dionysos, head honcho of all the nature gods, is pictured with a tiny dingaling, and in later Classical times, he often was portrayed as looking downright effeminate. So big cock = fertility was not always the rule in art.
     
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    Icarus213: Good imput. By the way, I wasn't saying David was ancient. I was saying he was a product of "more civilized cultures," of which Greece and Rome were just two.
     
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    awellhungboi: This is a cool topic!  I like what everyone has had to say.  DMW is right, of course.  It seems that, for whatever reason why in art, at least, large penises were not considered 'aesthetic'--distracting, like he says.  One could probably write a book about this subject, and I'm sure somebody has.  It took Mapplethorpe to have pictorial representations of large members be considered as 'high art'.  Or at least I think--you may be able to elucidate on that--or refute it, DMW or anybody else

    As for the 'first' mentioning of large members that's probably as old as human history.  Here's a selection from INANNA, QUEEN OF HEAVEN AND EARTH: Her Stories and Hymns from Sumer, by Diane Wolkstein and Samuel Noah Kramer.  Which is a beautiful book I recommend!  These were taken from clay tables that date to about 2000 bce, or four thousand years ago!

    Inanna spoke:
    "What I tell you
    Let the singer weave into song.
    What I tell you,
    Let it flow from ear to mouth,
    Let it pass from old to young:
    My vulva, the horn,
    The Boat of Heaven,
    Is full of eagerness like the young moon.
    My untilled land lies fallow.
    As for me, Inanna,
    Who will plow my vulva!
    Who will plow my high field!
    Who will plow my wet ground!
    As for me, the young woman,
    Who will plow my vulva!
    Who will station the ox there!
    Who will plow my vulva!"
    Dumuzi replied:
    "Great Lady, the king will plow your vulva.
    I, Dumuzi the King, will plow your vulva."
    Inanna:
    "Then plow my vulva, man of my heart!
    Plow my vulva!"
    At the king's lap stood the rising cedar.
    Plants grew high by their side.
    Grains grew high by their side.
    Gardens flourished luxuriantly.
    Inanna sang:
    "He has sprouted; he has burgeoned;
    He is lettuce planted by the water.
    He is the one my womb loves best.
    My well-stocked garden of the plain,
    My barley growing high in its furrow,
    My apple tree which bears fruit up to its crown,
    He is lettuce planted by the water.
    My honey-man, my honey-man sweetens me always.
    My lord, the honey-man of the gods,
    He is the one my womb loves best.
    His hand is honey, his foot is honey,
    He sweetens me always.
    My eager impetuous caresser of the navel,
    My caresser of the soft thighs,
    He is the one my womb loves best,
    He is lettuce planted by the water."

    check it out at http://www.reweaving.org/inanna2.html or do a google search for Inanna & Dumuzi

    As for the Greeks I would think any preference of smaller men would stem from the idealization of youth and the pre-pubescent or adolescent male form--but that's just a guess on my part.  Concepts of androgyny and the Divine Hermaphrodite might also apply but I'm going to shut up now.
     
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    bklynbigballs: I think of it this way: even though a penis of any size can produce a child, a large penis represents fertility and therefore a large penis=good. It's the same thing with women's breasts: a woman with small breasts can still breast feed a child but a woman with large breasts just seems more "full of milk" and therefore more of a mother. A guy with a big dick seems more fertile. And since fertility is an evolutionary imperative, anything that signifies fertility would arouse excitement.
     
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    I wouldn't use "advanced" if I were you, Icarus. Lewis Henry Morgan's "stages of development" theory is pure bunk. Australia's aborigines, for example, have the world's most complex kinship systems, but at the time of Cook's discovery, only Stone Age technology. The Aztecs were the most advanced scientifically in the 16th century, but practiced human sacrifice. Egyptians, given the "highest" level by most Morganians, practiced female circumcision.

    Or I could just tell you about the failure of a practical application of Morgan's theories. Ever heard of the Dawes Act?
     
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    H8Monga: It's barbaric thought. In our days, we should know better when it comes to virility.
     
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    tott666: I think we know better, it's just that it's hardwired. Sort of.
     
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    BIGBOYDAVE: [quote author=awellhungboi link=board=meetgreet;num=1046959912;start=0#12 date=03/06/03 at 21:29:54]This is a cool topic!   It seems that, for whatever reason why in art, at least, large penises were not considered 'aesthetic'--distracting, like he says.  One could probably write a book about this subject, and I'm sure somebody has.  It took Mapplethorpe to have pictorial representations of large members be considered as 'high art'.  

    More interesting info on this subject on board under
    Penis Worshiping including Art pics that appear to be ancient art also info on Pompay
     
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    mermaiden: [quote author=malito link=board=meetgreet;num=1046959912;start=0#1 date=03/06/03 at 06:25:44]They may have been conxidered foolish in ancient Greece, but they have been almost if not truily worshiped throughout history. In ancient Pompie there are paintings that still exist showing the importance of a large penis. Ancient Egypt also has its elevation of the penis, just look at some of the pillars in their temples. Men with big penises may have been thought fools, but they were nearly diefied in the ancient world.[/quote]

    Why don't any of these specials air on PBS ?
     
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    BIGBOYDAVE: [quote author=mermaiden link=board=meetgreet;num=1046959912;start=15#18 date=03/24/03 at 20:22:39]

    Why don't any of these specials air on PBS ?
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    They Have in the past also on Discovery and Showtime National Geograpic and Im sure they will appear again on those and some of the hundreds of new Digital chanels now poping up on Digital TV
     
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