Hatched69 said:On another note, it is interesting how most Christians are so passive when their faith is publicly attacked, but you say something about another religion/faith and you end up at war.....
Have Christians lost their passion, or are other religions TOO passionate?
Gillette said:That was a smug response, my apologies.
Here's the thing, no matter what person uses what religion to justify whatever action you cannot point at the religion to blame the action.
Muslims the world over didn't vote to enact 9/11.
Christians the world over didn't vote to enact the holocaust.
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Quick! all Christians back in the closet. Don't dare to publicly proclaim yourself to have religion, or it should be open season on you, and you have only yourself to blame.BarebackJack said:Here's a few good tips to keep in mind:
Each religion is a philosophy. No one religion is honestly any more "right" than another if you ask its believers. Your religion is "right" only in that it is probably right for you.
You are an adult with the power to believe whichever philosophy you choose. So is your neighbor. Keep your beliefs personal and private unless you want to open an ugly can of worms.
dolf250 said:Quick! all Christians back in the closet. Don't dare to publicly proclaim yourself to have religion, or it should be open season on you, and you have only yourself to blame.
What you are suggesting is that I do not have the right to acknowledge a large part of who I am without finding that people hate me for it? Does this sound familiar to anybody?
rob_just_rob said:Not to tar...*snip*...convert others, too.
dolf250 said:At least I am not going to be held responsible for the actions of somebody who grew to hate the church and Christians.quote]
You may have missed my point.
NOBODY is responsible for what ANYBODY ELSE does whether they are of the same religion or of a different religion.
Whats more, your assumption that people of other creeds were raised to hate Christians just propogates the "Us and Them" mentality that needs to end right now.
Enough with the finger pointing!
Hmmm, I can think of cartoons/editorials mocking overzealous supporters of several religions (and more power to the cartoonists, I say). Where are you seeing "all sorts of awful cartoons" attacking Jesus Christ - as opposed to his followers?HickBoy said:...Don't get confused and go after the Saviour. He didn't send these idiots to commit their crimes. Go after them. Or would you rather shoot the Message and let the messenger go free?... I see all sorts of awful cartoons mocking Him every day and I'm appalled.
HickBoy said:fftopic:
I'm talking about ad hominem attacks on founders of religious groups and am using Christ as an example.
rob_just_rob said:Don't point the finger at me. This thread wandered off topic on its own - which was pretty inevitable, really.
Sorry BarebackJack, missed that onecurriedeggs said:Who is this Jesus Guy? Any Pics?
Still waiting, HickBoy. :smile:SurferGirlCA said:Hmmm, I can think of cartoons/editorials mocking overzealous supporters of several religions (and more power to the cartoonists, I say). Where are you seeing "all sorts of awful cartoons" attacking Jesus Christ - as opposed to his followers?
rob_just_rob said:I am convinced that the main reason for the opposition religious fundamentalists (of ALL religions) show towards homosexuals is that the concept of converting others is so ingrained in their own beliefs that they can't comprehend that homosexuals aren't trying to convert others, too.
rob_just_rob said:Don't point the finger at me. This thread wandered off topic on its own - which was pretty inevitable, really.
Stronzo said:........... and, I may add, the author's precise intent.
Perhaps we should 'ban pud' this time 'round?
Lordpendragon said:Give us this day our daily faith, and deliver us from belief.
Forgive me Mr. President but I think there is a flaw in your logic. You can not seperate Jesus from the preachers/evangelists simply because he never wrote anything himself. You are therefore always relying on someone else's gospel or interpretation and censorship.
If you can feel the suchness of "Christ" you are closer to being a buddhist than a christian, or rather an enlightened human.
I always wondered why they edited these out?
http://www.gnosis.org/library.html
Kotchanski said:Anyone else think Stonzo might have hit a nerve?
Seriously though, if this thread is serious, then its not only moronic but hypocritical too. To ask that people stop using religious beliefs as a reason for things when your using yours as reason to request they don't is well, a little bizaar to say the least. You don't agree with what they are doing, neither do I, but I'd never dare to tell anyone that they aren't following a faith the way they should be.