Leo the Stalker

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  1. Freddie53

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    Dear Fellow LPSG Members,

    We have a problem here on this forum. We have a person who is a troll and worse yet a stalker. Right now this person goes under the name of Leo. But this person uses other names as well.

    I know it is hard to completely stop stalkers because they will join under a new name using a different computer in a different library. But as soon as they are idenitified they should be banned.

    If you read some of this person's posts, you will see a pathetic person pretending to be a gentleman constantly posting talking about chivalry, but doing the opposite.

    The worst offense is the personal message stalking which this person has done. We have been shown copies of one of this person's personal messages. It was enough for me. Yet, it is available to see on one of the threads.

    If we allow stalkers to continue stalking on this forum, not just publically but through personal messaging and e-mails sent through this forum, it will ultimately kill this forum. I have seen this happen.

    I have just about quit visitng another forum becasue stalkers over there took over that forum and created all kinds of trouble.

    If you agree that this person should be banned, please reply with a post supporting this open request. Ladies here should not have to go through this constant badgering from a twisted sick person.

    Freddie
     
  2. Knight-7x6

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    IP Ban!

    And his threads are pathetic, bordering on scary - horse sex?

    Also his stalker persona/psychosis isn't healthy or helpful here.
     
  3. SomeGuyOverThere

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    Its not healthy OR Helpful anywhere.
     
  4. Pappy

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    The problem with banning by IP address is that with a dial up account you get a random IP address everytime you log on to the net unless you have a static IP, most people don't. However you don't have that problem with cable or DSL. While I do believe that the stalkers and trolls and such should be dealt with accordingly, banning IP addresses will only cause problems for legitimate, participating members.
     
  5. Freddie53

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    Pappy, thanks for pointing that out. And I dealt with part of that in my post. I didn't make that clear enough. I am suggesting banning the user name and their password once Mark identified the user name belonging to a stalker. Of course they can come back as a new user with a new password, but they won't be able to say they are the same person without being immediately banned.

    Banning IP addresses won't work in places such as libraries. and all a person would have to do is just go to a different computer to access this forum.

    Pappy, thanks for giving me a chance to clarify that.

    SUMMARY!!
    Have the administrator ban the user name and password once he has established that this is a stalker or a person previously banned that has not meet the requirement to come back to the forum which would be set by Mark.

    We may not succeed completely. I doubt we will. But we must show that we don't approve of stalking and that we are making a true effort at controlling such behavior here. We can't be a people who turn away and hide our eyes and allow those people to do that and not show our disgust of the stalkers and eagerness to rid the forum of such foolishness and totally inappopriate behavior.

    Leo has been allowed to be here now for seems like weeks. We should at least make him get a new ueer name and password and pretend he is someone else with character at least for a time. We could at least breathe easier for a while.

    To me it is a matter of taking a stand. Jana is a personal friend of mine. To not defend her against such heresy by this stalker would be an insult to my own integrity.

    Freddie
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    Wow, this is really good of you, Freddie. I am sure everyone on here is tired of hearing me complain about this, but what if it was you? Please help.
     
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    I'm in fast agreement here with regards to the troublmaker cyberstalkers like Leotaylor/maverack dud. We shouldn't have deal with this aggravation, and we ought to have some kind of rule stipulating to the aggressor that they be warnded 1st then 2nd time boot their ass out.
     
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    AND, that if they come back some way after being booted out, we boot them again promptly. Too much wasted bandwidth.....
     
  9. B_Hung Muscle

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    We should definitely ban stalkers and leave this board to a highly regulated and closely selected clique of 4 or 5 people.

    My two cents.
     
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    You have a valid point. And I am very much against banning people whose opionion I disagree with. But we should make every effort to keep true stalkers off this forum. I know from experience that that kind of activity will hurt this forum. And this forum as been wonderful to me.

    Hung Muscle, do you have another method to keep people from using this forum to stalk people? In this particular case, personal messaging, not private e-mails has been used to malitiously bother people. Private e-mail, I can see this forum not getting involved, but when messages are sent through this forum, then it is the business of this forum to monitor it. It clearly states that a copy of any message to a member is kept. We all know this when we personal message or e-mail through the forum.

    I am a gentle person and would be very much upset if this forum got too aributary. There needs to be a proven pattern before anyone is banned from posting or having their posts removed. The person being stalked must first in writing request that the "stalker' leave them alone. Some procedures do need to be in place all right. Sometimes, maybe all that needs to be done is have the post itself removed.

    THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF A PERSON IS ENGAGING IN BEHAVIOR THAT COULD GET THEM ARRESTED AND STALKING IS ONE OF THEM, THAT DOES NOT NEED TO HAPPEN ON THIS FORUM. And just because a person accuses a person of being a stalker doesn't make him one.

    As a member, do any of you want your names on a law suit or investigated by the poilice over the activites of a person because of activities they did using this forum? I didn't think so.

    In the case of this stalker, he has already been banned before and he his back and has sent questionable messages and some of his posts have sounded wonderful but others definitely show the mark of a stalker. And he is extremely contridcitory in his posts. It appears to me to be the writing of a person who has serious mental or emotional problems at the least and possibly worst than that.

    I know this, if Jana were my sister, my brother who is an attorney would be busy looking at what legal actions he could take. My brother doesn't know Jana and isn't involed and I haven't discussed it with him because laws very from state to state and country to country.

    For new members, this issue with Leo is on going. He has already been banned before. It is just a matter of when to ban him again. The LPSG has determined that he has stalked Jana before as I understand all the posts. And he is back. Which of you would want a former stalker returning to bother your sister, mother, or wife? Especially if he is nonrepentent.

    Again as far as posts I dont' like, the best censorship is for me to just ignore them. Period. I am not going to ask Mark to remove them.

    I am a professional in dealing with people with degrees and all. I only want true stalkers disciplined or removed or posts dropped or whatever needs to happen.

    Because of spats at the small penis forum, the rules have become rediculous. Your penis just a fraction too long, you either have the offending part cut off or be bounced from the forum. The ugliness got that bad there and now the rules are way to stringent.

    Now is the time to fix this simply when we don't have a lot of trouble.

    Again, this only involves stalking. Not disagreeing. Not even using foul languge in telling each other how we feel. Sometimes that is inappropriate in some peoples books. BUT IT IS NOT STLAKING. If you don't know what stlaking is, look it up in the dictionary. While you are at it, check with you local police to find out the fine and jail terms for being found guilty of stalking.
     
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    I hate to recommend this, it's shifting the burden to the offended, but it may be a practical work-around.

    The offended party(ies) may need to open a second account to respond to IM contacts... and use their original account to screen the messages.

    D@#n idiocy of some people, I too, regret this happens - especially when the offenders have been suitably advised.
     
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    a close friend of mine was banned on here some ago so it can be done.

    i have placed persons on my ignore list from time to time and if someone is rubbing you the wrong way this should take care of it.

    my 4 cents. :}
     
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    Oh, the jusrisdictional aspects may have leverage on some people... maybe selecting the governing jurisdiction with thi in mind may deter some.

    In NJ, for instance, stalking and "making terroristic threats" are criminal acts... saying "I'm gonna kill you" is sufficient to get a ride to visit the local police.
     
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    osupaul_1977: two more names to watch out for: bilbowbaggins, and southsidebiff.

    I had to give up old old email address because this freak kept sending nasty stuff to me. I followed some of his activity, and so far I've seen listings for alot of gay porn sites, and a bunch of posts to an msn group called 'Getting by with a small penis' or something like that.
     
  15. Freddie53

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    These are the kinds of things that I was referring to in starting my thread. No, don't ban people at first. Explain the rules of behavior here on this forum. I would not wnat Mr. Mark to ban anyone unless it was clear that it was a true stalker. Just because I or we and whoever might not like someone is not a reason to ban them. And I deplore "witch hunts". But true stalking can't be allowed to continue once it is established that this is what is taking place.

    Freddie
     
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    i had a stalker once that knew everywhere i was when i was online--i felt like i couldnt even use the pc---he knew the groups i belonged to and my name---he pm'd and im'd and text messaged me under a variety of different names=---he even found my home phone and called me something like 30 times in one hour and kept it up day and night....

    i was told by the police that i had to call the phone company. the phone company had me write down each call and the time for 21 days. i gave up and changed the phone number because when i would put the phone back on the receiver to make a call he would have me set on redial and i couldnt get through.

    online i reported him to msn and some other place i cannot remember and they did NOTHING!!! eventually i gave up on all my old sites and i changed everything. i havent heard anything from him, but i certainly think there should be something in place that can remove a stalker online.

    if you havent gone through it you are lucky...this guy had me feeling like he knew when i sat at the pc and i was afraid to log on after awhile...
     
  17. naughty

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    HI,

    I too have had insanity reach out and touch on the net. I was in another interest group and this particular person and I began bantering back and forth. But why did he start sending me 5 page diatribes about why I was ignoring him. Then he began the IM assault . HE put me through so much trauma I thought I was losing my mind. He told me that I could not hide from him! Eeeeeeeeeek! Luckily, My brother was able to help me get every thing replaced and he disappeared.But it was a horror while it was going on. MY sympathy is with you Jana and with any one else who has to go through this. As for someone who it doing this, Please you may feel upset if someone is not returning your interest but it will fade with time and continuing to push the issue only makes you and the object of your obsession feel worse.

    Naughty
     
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    JD88099: I dont really take anything online very seriously, but what pisses me off is when people steal my pictures and post them on other websites as me... I get tons of PMs about some guy on kelly-call.com something or other porn forum posting my pictures all the time, as well as a few other picture rating websites

    I am on THIS SITE and RateMyBody.com and those two ONLY.

    Fakers are on ratemyschlong.com, that one kelly porn site or whatever i forget the url to, and tangotime.com, and probably but hopefully not, several other sites.

    As I said before, I try not to take online shit too seriously since it's only the net, but this shit's gotta stop.

    I've showed pictures of myself that I WILL NEVER put online to people on AIM, and have yet to see any of those popping up on websites. I think i'm done with the whole picture thing for a while though... It becomes a hassle when I get 20 IMs asking for "nude pix" every time I sign on with intent to talk to my friends

    It probably sounds like I'm just tooting my own horn lol, although it is kinda flattering knowing people wish they were me, the shit is really out of hand and is causing me much unwanted hassle
     
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    JD88099: Oh yay, I have successfully killed another topic :(
     
  20. madame_zora

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    Naw, honey, you didn't kill anything, but it was kind of a slap in the face to say you just don't take anything online too seriously. Obvioulsy you haven't had this happen to you yet, it's no goddamned fun. You wouldn't like it if you were having a serious problem and someone responded with "so what, now listen to MY problem".

    That being said, I also had some pics stolen right after I posted them on here, and I felt very betrayed- naked, if you will! It's one thing to do something by choice, but another thing to just have it taken from you. A member here asked me if I posted on another site under a different name, and the answer is NO! This is the only place I have pics up, so anywhere else they appear is without my permission or knowledge. I guess I got to the point that I took it as flattery that they wanted to have people think they looked like me, I'm not that hot of a commodity in real life, lol. Also, I'm not as young as you, so I'm sure it feels quite different. Sorry some disreputable asshole did that to you, babe. You seem like a sweet guy, and I know everyone here wants to see you around more. Don't let it scare you away.
     
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