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After having a discussion on that whole "paying" thread, I've thought of something.

A man's roles and responsibilities in a relationship seem to always be clearly defined. i.e. buy gifts/flowers/dinner/rub feet/obey just about every command.

EVERY and I mean EVERY female that I've asked (close friends) what the role of a female is, it draws blanks. I mean, how can you expect stuff out of someone without having expectations of yourself? Clearly nurturing mom comes to play but what about the actual male/female relationship? I'd really appreciate all of your input, because even I draw a blank. Which is why i think this topic needs some further examination.
 

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You don't know? =) You don't know that if you even start to suggest what their role is... you're gonna get flogged! That's what...

They know what their role is - they just don't like to be pigeonholed.
 

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LOL That's EXACTLY my point. You can't EVER expect something out of a female, but expectations are put upon us. So without me just coming out with it, I figured I'd like to get a general idea. LOL But as long as we don't bring it up, they're never pigeonholed. But we're pigeonholed for days. LOL I say we change the tables and start flogging when they start expecting gutters cleaned, and snow shoveled lol.
 

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They draw blank??

We do allsorts.....

Aside from the sex which if you are straight you are not going to be having with your male friends.....

we.....

1. Look after you when you are ill, cos lets face it! its not a cold - its the plague!!!

2. When cohabiting tend to still do more of the housework,chores etc.

3. Play counsellor to you, you can talk to us about all the things you cannot talk to the guys about because we are SENSITIVE and have tact!!

4. Give you proper cuddles and affection and intimacy, do you cuddle the guys??

5. Help you with all tasks related to other females, e.g: choosing presents for your Mum or your sister.

6. Play hostess, in that we tend consider it our role to make your friends and family feel at home...

7. Constantly flatter your male ego.....

8. Can without fail be relied upon to say " YES it is BIG darling!! No I've never had bigger!!"

9. No matter how many times you ask, or if infact this is bullshit.

10. Put up with your male friends some of whom are often downright arrogant and sometimes worryingly strange, but go along with it because thats just the way Pete/Nick/John is.....

I could go on


This list is by no means exhaustive and I hope other women add things!!

Yes I will agree female roles are less obvious, but we actually do LOADS!!!!
 

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A man's roles and responsibilities in a relationship seem to always be clearly defined. i.e. buy gifts/flowers/dinner/rub feet/obey just about every command.
Where have these rules been clearly defined? Do you really think your role in a relationship is to basically just obey orders? :confused:
 

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1. Look after you when you are ill, cos lets face it! its not a cold - its the plague!!!
You do it because you love us, and our Mom's aren't there. Our mothers would never throw this in our face! =)

2. When cohabiting tend to still do more of the housework,chores etc.
No argument. BUT, I'll do the laundry, if you cut the fire wood, or change the oil in the car, or clean the gutters, or ... I could go on.

3. Play counsellor to you, you can talk to us about all the things you cannot talk to the guys about because we are SENSITIVE and have tact!!
Actually, I find its the other way around. We'll call this a toss-up.

4. Give you proper cuddles and affection and intimacy, do you cuddle the guys??
You don't need it too? I'll give you partial credit for this one.

5. Help you with all tasks related to other females, e.g: choosing presents for your Mum or your sister.
Well, if we did it... we'd be done shopping in 10 minutes!

6. Play hostess, in that we tend consider it our role to make your friends and family feel at home...
True.

7. Constantly flatter your male ego.....
Like we don't have to constantly argue with you that you're not FAT, and yes your hair is beautiful... yes, your tits still look as perky as they did when we met 10 years ago...

8. Can without fail be relied upon to say " YES it is BIG darling!! No I've never had bigger!!"
You lying slags.... =)

9. No matter how many times you ask, or if infact this is bullshit.
See #7.

10. Put up with your male friends some of whom are often downright arrogant and sometimes worryingly strange, but go along with it because thats just the way Pete/Nick/John is.....

The words reserved for YOUR friends can't compare. Damn, Amber... nice list. I'll give you a score of 7 out of 10 stars. Thanks for playing... :biggrin1:
 

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After having a discussion on that whole "paying" thread, I've thought of something.

A man's roles and responsibilities in a relationship seem to always be clearly defined. i.e. buy gifts/flowers/dinner/rub feet/obey just about every command.

Well that depends (the obeying commands) on if you meet a spoilt bitch or not!! Of course girls/women like to be made a fuss of but most decent ones don't expect to just TAKE, TAKE, TAKE!!!

Thats just WRONG!! You should be able to say no sometimes!

And I know men more often still earn more then women, so yes ladies do like to be spoiled/treated nice SOMETIMES because men are more able to provide...but i still think a woman should have her own job/career and not just ponce from a man!! and should treat her man too sometimes to nice things and treat him with the same respect that she desires herself.
 

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Where have these rules been clearly defined? Do you really think your role in a relationship is to basically just obey orders? :confused:


Im glad im not the only one who isn't seeing his "responsibilities" as kosher.

I think the only responsibilities any partner has is to love, be honest and consider your partner in any decisions you make. Things such as gifts/flowers/dinner/rub feet aren't responsibilities, they are things you do for someone you care about.


And as for obey. :eek: If you are in a relationship where you are expected to obey, then buy them a dog and get the fuck out of there
 

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LOL


@ Notaguru


1. The Cold thing I am not throwing in you mens faces!! Is it or is it not something we do. Yes it done out of love and you know full well it IS 'The Plague'


5. Yes love you'd be done in 10 minutes and you'd fuck it up!!! Exactly why we do it!!!


You're right love my list is good!! :-D
 

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After having a discussion on that whole "paying" thread, I've thought of something.
A man's roles and responsibilities in a relationship seem to always be clearly defined. i.e. buy gifts/flowers/dinner/rub feet/obey just about every command.

EVERY and I mean EVERY female that I've asked (close friends) what the role of a female is, it draws blanks. I mean, how can you expect stuff out of someone without having expectations of yourself? Clearly nurturing mom comes to play but what about the actual male/female relationship? I'd really appreciate all of your input, because even I draw a blank. Which is why i think this topic needs some further examination.
Clearly, you are having problems in your current relationship and I can see why. You're a jack ass.

When dating, otherwise intelligent men who run corporations and have memorized the starting line up of the '69 Mets start forgetting things. :confused: Which then become the girlfriends responsibility. Things like: picking up and dropping off his dry cleaning, making reservations, remembering his immediate familys birthdays and buying them gifts. We keep your lives running like a Swiss watch because you are unable to do it without us. :irked:
According to the King James Bible: 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helpmate for him.
Many biblical scholars have many theories on what this verse actually means. Most agree that a helpmate is a wife or spouse. From there the discussion kinda goes down hill, but you can Google it and form your own opinion.

But as long as we don't bring it up, they're never pigeonholed. But we're pigeonholed for days. LOL I say we change the tables and start flogging when they start expecting gutters cleaned, and snow shoveled lol.
You stupid, male chauvinist, ignorant shit! Men expect women to do everything they can't or won't and you never think twice about asking. Men like you just dictate. :mad: The second we ask you to do something outside the house because you refuse to do anything inside the house, for fear you balls might fall off if you wash a dish, change a diaper, or vaccuum; you pull this shit. Oh and while we are running your household, raising your children and cooking your meals we are usually working full-time outside the home. :irked:

:angryfire2: What is your next stupid ass question, ranredd?

Jizz receptacle. *dives under desk*
:rocketwhore: :tool: :angryfire2::bye:
 

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From being a child i observed my Mother working her Heart out from Dawn to Dusk
Always it impressed upon me the saying 'a womans work is never done'
I made my own mind up in my Teens that a Womans role in life required her to work almost 1/2 as much again as the Male
Male-Go to work/come home/collapse rest eat sleep (Some of us/better cover myself!)
Woman-Prepare the kids for school/clean the house/ (in our case go out to our Commercial Garden to work) Cook 2 meals a day/be there for us kids when we got home/wash clothes/kids to bed
(apart from a host of other things-crying kids etc)
Hardly time to rest eat sleep
No wonder i am Gay and quite adept at all of the above..hah
enz
-as or the M/F relationship..if the Male happens to be a Lazy Ass..the Woman has effectivly doubled/tripled even .. her work load'
---You asked OP---
 

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Women do lots of hard work especially looking after the home and the family. However dont tell me telling a bloke his cock is big is a chore, or massaging his ego. Both of there take place to make the man feel good so he then in turn treats her even better, and nothing should be said that isnt true.
 

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Clearly, you are having problems in your current relationship and I can see why. You're a jack ass.

When dating, otherwise intelligent men who run corporations and have memorized the starting line up of the '69 Mets start forgetting things. :confused: Which then become the girlfriends responsibility. Things like: picking up and dropping off his dry cleaning, making reservations, remembering his immediate familys birthdays and buying them gifts. We keep your lives running like a Swiss watch because you are unable to do it without us. :irked:

LOL are you serious????? You act like we couldn't do all that crap BEFORE we met you??? You act like a guy is some bumbling idiot and then POOF here you are to save the day. My mother has raised me to be COMPLETELY independent. Which has made me really wonder what women are "expected" to do when it comes to roles.
According to the King James Bible: 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helpmate for him.
Many biblical scholars have many theories on what this verse actually means. Most agree that a helpmate is a wife or spouse. From there the discussion kinda goes down hill, but you can Google it and form your own opinion.

You stupid, male chauvinist, ignorant shit! Men expect women to do everything they can't or won't and you never think twice about asking. Men like you just dictate.

Complete crap. If we expect something, we get flogged just like the other poster said. Which is why a married man just sits back and doesn't argue or anything.
:mad: The second we ask you to do something outside the house because you refuse to do anything inside the house, for fear you balls might fall off if you wash a dish, change a diaper, or vaccuum; you pull this shit. Oh and while we are running your household, raising your children and cooking your meals we are usually working full-time outside the home. :irked: Again, more crap. Maybe it's because you are 42, but nowadays, a lot of females i know can't cook. Secondly, a house is ran by two individuals. I'm saying that if all things are equal (i.e. housely duties) then why is more expected out of a male? According to what you're saying we SHOULD expect these things if everything else is done on our end. Otherwise, what would you suggest we do?

:angryfire2: What is your next stupid ass question, ranredd?


:rocketwhore: :tool: :angryfire2::bye:

Above all else, no need for name calling. This is a discussion, not the dozens.
 

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From being a child i observed my Mother working her Heart out from Dawn to Dusk
Always it impressed upon me the saying 'a womans work is never done'
I made my own mind up in my Teens that a Womans role in life required her to work almost 1/2 as much again as the Male
Male-Go to work/come home/collapse rest eat sleep (Some of us/better cover myself!)
Woman-Prepare the kids for school/clean the house/ (in our case go out to our Commercial Garden to work) Cook 2 meals a day/be there for us kids when we got home/wash clothes/kids to bed
(apart from a host of other things-crying kids etc)
Hardly time to rest eat sleep
No wonder i am Gay and quite adept at all of the above..hah
enz
-as or the M/F relationship..if the Male happens to be a Lazy Ass..the Woman has effectivly doubled/tripled even .. her work load'
---You asked OP---

I agree with just about everything you said (except for the gay thing). I think that's why my mother taught me how to be completely independent. The probelm that i'm having is.......what is the guy is NOT a lazy ass. We're talking about equality on all fronts except for that money one. It seems that even if housely duties a drawn down the middle, we're STILL expected to pick up more tabs and wine & dine more. That's where the basis of my question comes from.
 

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I can't define the role of every woman, just like I can't the role of every man, for me, it is whatever works within the current relationship.

I get up at 6:30am, do some housework, maybe bake some bread or cakes, make breakfast for him and the kids, then make packed lunches for hubby and the kids, quite often a basket of muffins or something for the guys hubby works with

7:30am I get the kids up, feed them, get them showered and ready for school. Sort hubbies clothes out for work.

8:00am Get hubby up, give him his breakfast and a coffee, have his clothes ironed for when he gets out of the shower.

At 8:30am he leaves for work and I walk the kids to school.

From that point it varies, but I do a daily shop for whatever I happen to be making for dinner, do the housework, walk to dog and at some point. A large part of the day is spent doing housework and making fresh pasta, pizza bases, bread, cakes, sauces, whatever is needed for dinner that night and packed lunches the next morning.

3:00pm I get the kids from school, take the dog with me so she gets an extra walk, back home and help the kids with their homework, read a book with them. Carry on with cooking

5:00pm Start actually making dinner and cleaning up after the kids

5:30pm Clean kitchen apart from the things the food is actually cooking in

5:40pm Put the kettle on, roll hubby a cig, put on his desk and log him into WoW ready for when he gets home

5:50pm Lay table and serve dinner

6:30pm Wash up, empty indoor bins, put main bins out if needed

7:00pm Get kids ready to bed, take dog out

7:30pm Put kids to bed, read them a story

8:00pm Provided hubby doesn't need anything and all the work is done, I relax, apart from making coffee and rolling cigs for hubby

I don't expect anything from hubby with regards to buying me gifts, paying for meals and so on, we both have money coming in, and it all goes into one account, we share everything in that respect.


Sorry Dear I would.....if I did all that day in day out I think I'd expect

a gold toilet seat and a diamond encrusted dildo!!! And also one day a week where he indulged my every whim and I only answered to

the name Queen Cleopatra!!!!!