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I don't follow Niall closely but I'll have a look. Taylor Swift handed Harry his career so it makes sense why he's the "famous" one. She's an anomaly in today's industry and anyone who has ever been associated with her benefits from it. His manager is one of the industry's most influential people and has been able to use his position to put him in front of people and locals just go with it. As you said, when I went to his MSG show most of the audience who weren't teenage girls didn't know a thing and were there because of the hype or highly discounted tickets (mine cost $22 for good seats from a reseller.) The others are having to do everything without the benefit of being made a household name. Liam had Quavo and that's why his first single did so well. Everything after that except for the 50 Shades of Gray soundtrack song has flopped by some standards. He has good streaming numbers though because he makes music people who stream listen to (trap heavy pop and follows fads). Once Liam lost his visibility he stopped doing numbers. Zayn had the advantage of getting press for being the first one to leave One Direction. Now he gets no press and his last album didn't even crack the Top 50. Louis is the same way. Niall's next album will be too. Once people lose interest in Harry he will suffer the same fate.

So what Liam's experiencing is just a side effect of being in an industry that is rapidly evolving to the point where is managers aren't keeping up. They're making him do festivals only instead of tour on his own for crying out loud. He should hire new people once his contract expires.


I disagree on the Quavo thing because he actually promoted that single and Quavo didn’t add anything. Didn’t join in any of the promo. People who listen to rap don’t check for him..

Liam team doesn’t know how to work everything is lackluster and I can give you an example of that . if when harry dropped his album he had 3 songs on the biggest Spotify playlist and he was plastered everywhere and did shows etc. It’s known in order to get spotify numbers you need to be on big streaming playlists. Zayn does 0 promo, so that’s why his album does poor. The only house hold name is Harry and even though I’m not a fan of him I can admit that, but he’s always doing promoting and concepts and actually has a proper album rollout.

It’s weird how everyone compares the 1D boys albums when they’re in different scenarios but if we look at the single sales Liam and Zayn Have the most known songs.

I believe with the right rollout and promo, not releasing a song in the night on a Wednesday, live performance & good music video on release of song, being on the cover big playlists and immediately impacting radio does well for a song.

his album may not be selling but he is getting his money from other sources like festivals/ Hugo boss. Brand Ambassador paying a lot more, he gets to perform in places worldwide and do fashion
 

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Niall interacts with so many celebrities, and tries to get the attention of female artists from fans, even taylor swift fans noticed he keeps using her name.

Niall Horan on Twitter

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if anyone else did this they would be saying they’re begging for sales. Every time I see his ig story it’s always about where he is on the charts
 

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I disagree on the Quavo thing because he actually promoted that single and Quavo didn’t add anything. Didn’t join in any of the promo. People who listen to rap don’t check for him..

Liam team doesn’t know how to work everything is lackluster and I can give you an example of that . if when harry dropped his album he had 3 songs on the biggest Spotify playlist and he was plastered everywhere and did shows etc. It’s known in order to get spotify numbers you need to be on big streaming playlists. Zayn does 0 promo, so that’s why his album does poor. The only house hold name is Harry and even though I’m not a fan of him I can admit that, but he’s always doing promoting and concepts and actually has a proper album rollout.

It’s weird how everyone compares the 1D boys albums when they’re in different scenarios but if we look at the single sales Liam and Zayn Have the most known songs.

I believe with the right rollout and promo, not releasing a song in the night on a Wednesday, live performance & good music video on release of song, being on the cover big playlists and immediately impacting radio does well for a song.

his album may not be selling but he is getting his money from other sources like festivals/ Hugo boss. Brand Ambassador paying a lot more, he gets to perform in places worldwide and do fashion

I think Zayn probably would've been the biggest if he actually had an interest in the career side of things. But it's very hard to get anywhere if you won't do any promotion for your work.
 

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I think Zayn probably would've been the biggest if he actually had an interest in the career side of things. But it's very hard to get anywhere if you won't do any promotion for your work.


It is very hard especially with a terrible music label, but he makes music and I’m happy with that, he’s so calm and humble
 

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I think Zayn probably would've been the biggest if he actually had an interest in the career side of things. But it's very hard to get anywhere if you won't do any promotion for your work.

if we look at single sales, single peaks (around the world), YouTube subscribers, Spotify followers, Zayn is by far the most successful, leading fashion magazine covers (he wins) what he doesn’t do is tour/promote/live performances I’m hoping he will again.
 
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Niall interacts with so many celebrities, and tries to get the attention of female artists from fans, even taylor swift fans noticed he keeps using her name.

Niall Horan on Twitter

Niall Horan on Twitter

Niall Horan on Twitter

if anyone else did this they would be saying they’re begging for sales. Every time I see his ig story it’s always about where he is on the charts
Side note: He actually has a WORLD tour, going on his 2nd by the way, Liam wishes. Taylor and Niall are ACTUAL friends, Taylor invented him to sing on stage with her. He was talking on IG about how good Taylor's song was, it's called being supportive. If anything, Liam and all his digs at One Direction (Including one where he said Niall would be the first to join the reunion because he doesn't have a lot going on, lol the irony) and Harry were failed attempts of attention seeking.

Also, it helps that Niall is basically drama free and a lot of people in the industry likes him for being a nice guy, he has charisma, something that Liam lacks in general. Niall and his team actually cares about promoting - promoting is the basic thing an artist can do.

Don't try to use Niall as an excuse for Liam's poor career choices and events lol
 

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Side note: He actually has a WORLD tour, going on his 2nd by the way, Liam wishes. Taylor and Niall are ACTUAL friends, Taylor invented him to sing on stage with her. He was talking on IG about how good Taylor's song was, it's called being supportive. If anything, Liam and all his digs at One Direction (Including one where he said Niall would be the first to join the reunion because he doesn't have a lot going on, lol the irony) and Harry were failed attempts of attention seeking.

Also, it helps that Niall is basically drama free and a lot of people in the industry likes him for being a nice guy, he has charisma, something that Liam lacks in general. Niall and his team actually cares about promoting - promoting is the basic thing an artist can do.

Don't try to use Niall as an excuse for Liam's poor career choices and events lol


no his career choices and management aren't the best, you kinda just repeated what i was saying about niall and his team cares about promoting, and the whole conversation started by saying liam and his team doesn't as much and someone disagreed with me