Life without make-up?

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Woman Goes Without Makeup for One Year | ABC News Blogs - Yahoo!

I just watched this ABC piece, and got kind of mad.
First I wondered... ...is she married?
Yes, yes she is. Let's see her try her experiment of life without make up as a single girl. Let's see if she, quote "feels more beautiful than she ever has before"

In Seattle, lots of girls have the granola, no make-up look. And a couple, (especially latinas who already have dark eyelashes) pull it off, and still look gorgeous.

But most of them, especially the light haired women, lose 2 or 3 points on the 10 point scale. It is amazing what a little mascara can do. And it is a competitive world. Mascara highlights the eyes through contrast, and has been shown to be more attractive to men for millenia. (make up was first used by prostitutes thousands of years ago).

On the mental level, I understand granola girls, but on the emotional level, I never think they are attractive.

OK.. life with out make-up?
 

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Why don't you post your questions in the ASK A WOMAN forum. YOUR opinions about women and make up are not a women's issue.

1. I'm not asking for my opinions. I just stated them to get some conversation going.

2. Ask a woman does not allow guys to interject, and I don't like the format that the OP in those forums are the only person allowed to keep asking questions. Seems just a little unfair and stifling to the environment of conversation.

3. Make-up is a woman's issue, and trying to live life without it would be a woman's issue.

4. Are you fucking kidding me?
 
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Dear Mods,

could one of y'all shuffle this thread over to Appearance Issues?
pretty *pretty in a natural way* please?


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1. I'm not asking for my opinions. I just stated them to get some conversation going.

2. Ask a woman does not allow guys to interject, and I don't like the format that the OP in those forums are the only person allowed to keep asking questions. Seems just a little unfair and stifling to the environment of conversation.

3. Make-up is a woman's issue, and trying to live life without it would be a woman's issue.

4. Are you fucking kidding me?

I'm sorry, did your post not open with some soliloquy about what you deem attractive about women and make up ? Yeah, your opinion is not a women's issue. Just because you throw a question on the end doesn't make it relevant. And if you want everyone's opinion on women and make up - post it in the appearances section like ML suggested. All you've done is litter the women's issues with asinine questions.
 

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I'm sorry, did your post not open with some soliloquy about what you deem attractive about women and make up ?

No, maybe you should re-read it. first I said it would not be the same if she was single.

Not my opinion on attractiveness and make-up. Opinion on how it would be easier for a woman to go without make-up if she were married. And how I bet she would not have tried her experiment if she were single.
All you've done is litter the women's issues with asinine questions.
Who cares? Just because you find them asinine does not mean everybody does. And just because the LPSG regulars are annoyed by it, doesn't mean the less regulars are too.

Why don't you lighten up? If you are so annoyed, go for a walk, get some fresh air. Do something else.
 
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I'm sorry, did your post not open with some soliloquy about what you deem attractive about women and make up ? Yeah, your opinion is not a women's issue. Just because you throw a question on the end doesn't make it relevant. And if you want everyone's opinion on women and make up - post it in the appearances section like ML suggested. All you've done is litter the women's issues with asinine questions.

The OP seems to piss women off, therefore creating an issue with women. Technically he's in the right place. :biggrin1:
 

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This thread caught my eye because lately I have been thinking about how makeup affects people's appearance. I have been thinking about how with men, what you see is what you get 99.9% of the time b/c most men do not wear makeup. But with lots of women this isn't the case b/c they wear makeup and we're not really seeing their natural, unadorned face in public, we're seeing a mask. At my friend's New Year's Eve party this past NYE, I noticed his gf was obviously wearing a good amount of makeup. Not a garish amount IMO, but enough that it was the first thing I noticed when she walked in the room. Sure enough when we left, 2 of my other friends (who happen to be str8) were joking about how she had "4 layers of makeup on" applied by Tom Savini (google him haha!) So maybe she had overdone it a bit after all.

I wonder what it's like for a woman when her boyfriend (who previously may have only seen her in full makeup) sees her without makeup? Is it a huge deal for her?

Also, I've been noticing male musicians that wear makeup. For instance, all 3 guys in Green Day wear eye makeup and it struck as silly. They're all in their 40's and u can see the age in their faces, and they've got mascara and stuff all around their eyes. I realize it does give off a certain vibe, especially in photoshoots, but once I focused on it consciously it just seemed strange.

Also recently, I was looking at a photo of Scott Weiland, the lead singer of Stone Temple Pilots. His face looked very plain and bland to me for some reason, and I couldn't think why that was. Then I realized, in dozens of other photos I had seen of him over the years, he was wearing eye makeup!

Ok it's very late I'm going to bed ;-0
 
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Wait, wait, wait. But she is wearing excellent makeup during her tv appearance! It is warm, subtle, and pretty. She's beautiful! When they show photos of how she made up herself, it is eye makeup that is too dark, lipstick that is too red, base that is too white, blush that is garish... it's gross. No one ever taught her how to apply makeup (or she wore it on purpose for that photo). Of course she would, if that's really how she left her house every day, feel way more beautiful without the makeup! She was! But she was plain. So ordinary. Completely unremarkable. Yet, the makeup that Couric's people put on her was so simple and elegant looking. She was very attractive for the show.

On the other hand, dint get me started on the show's little "beauty experiment". They were surprised that people felt apprehensive when they sent Maureen out without makeup? How stupid do they think the audiance is. No one else is bundled up, but she has on skme kind of 50-below zero coat with an igloo for a hood. You can barely see her face. She looks fucking suspicious next to person after person with no hat, and few with a scarf. Get out of here.

Me? I love makeup. Sometimes I put on as many as 12 products, sometimes just two or three, but I'm always happy with the results. I have acne and wrinkles, but people go out of their way to come up to me and compliment my skin. They want regimen advice sometimes, and wint hear me when I insist that its a combination of decent genes and amazing makeup. It takes me a total of ten minutes to do hair and makeup. It takes another ten minutes a day (cumulatively) of facial skin care. But I'd double it to fet these results if I had to. My husband's in love. He always thinks I look beautiful, or so he says. But you'll get my makeup away from me when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. Even the process of applying it just makes me feel better about the coming day. Get the fuck outta here.

This thread, as it was presented offers up a video and the OP's comments for discussing. He seems to want to know what we think of the article/video, and whether or not we agree with his opinions. I don't see why this isn't a women's issue. You all know full well the appearance section goes to discussing male appearance, and that many of the women here never or seldomly venture over there.
 
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The title of the thread. The last sentence in the OP.

I realize I'm being nitpickiy, but that's not actually a question. It's sticking a question mark after a noun.

Green Cars? Trees with birds in them? Jobs that pay well?

I think it's fine to bring up make-up as a topic in women's issues forum, but the way you "ask" it just leaves your intent for the discussion a little unfocused and it's a bit irritating.

Are you asking my opinion on women who don't wear makeup? Are you asking if I think it's appropriate that women should feel pressured to wear makeup? Are you asking if I think it would be hard for women to live without makeup? Are you wanting some freeform theoretical discussion about all things to do without makeup?

Bleh.
 

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I realize I'm being nitpickiy, but that's not actually a question. It's sticking a question mark after a noun.

Green Cars? Trees with birds in them? Jobs that pay well?

Sorry you don't like my writing style.

I think it's fine to bring up make-up as a topic in women's issues forum, but the way you "ask" it just leaves your intent for the discussion a little unfocused and it's a bit irritating.
Oh no! I irritated some highly irritable people! I bet they are the types that like profuse amounts of apologies too for minor infractions! Sorry sorry sorry!

Are you asking my opinion on women who don't wear makeup? Are you asking if I think it's appropriate that women should feel pressured to wear makeup? Are you asking if I think it would be hard for women to live without makeup? Are you wanting some freeform theoretical discussion about all things to do without makeup?

Bleh.
I was asking your opinion if you could live life without make-up. well, actually, I put it in women's issues, so I was kind of asking women. But if you wear make up regularly, how would you feel about trying to go a year without it, and how do you feel life would be different if you didn't wear it?

Also, I am wondering if you even watched the linked video first, before trying to figure out my opening post? I seem to think you didn't.

Which is..... ..."irritating".
 
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wow you sound like a douche. this is why so many women have poor self esteem and feel the need to cake themselves with makeup and whatever fake products or "enhancements" are out there.

I wasn't even born when make-up became incredibly popular in America post WW I.

And like i said in the OP. It is a competitive world.

Women get the advantage of wearing make-up, but also the disadvantage of having to play the make-up game to keep up in the attraction game.

Because it is pretty well known that make up helps women look more beautiful. Are you going to deny this? Ornamentation is used almost universally by all cultures, and it is used by women far more than men.