Log Cabin Republicans support John McCain

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  1. Wyldgusechaz

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    Interesting is that they endorsed John McCain but declined to endorse Sarah Palin. Don't they know they come as a set?
     
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    I'm not against gay conservative politics but those guys need help if they want to stay with a party that hates and doesn't accept them as colleagues and as people.
     
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    Now who is being prejudicial?

    Obama is against gay marriage. I am very conservative and 1000% in favor of gay marriage. It just ain't that easy. There are segments of the Republican party that a stridently anti gay, but I never run nito them. Most if not all my friends are rich white Republicans and all are in favor of gay marriage save one.



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    <SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=2> &#8220;On the most important issue that LGBT Americans faced in the last decade&#8212;the federal marriage amendment&#8212;Sen. John McCain stood with us. Now we stand with him,&#8221; said Log Cabin Republicans President Patrick Sammon. &#8220;Sen. McCain is an inclusive Republican who is focusing the GOP on unifying core principles that appeal to independent voters.&#8221;

    Sounds like gays and lesbians mght be able to get some dialogue with this guy.
     
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    FIGHTING
    DISCRIMINATION
    Obama
    Supports Legislation To Outlaw
    Employment Discrimination On The Basis Of
    Sexual Orientation And Gender Identity.
    Obama Sponsored Fully Inclusive Employment
    Non&#8208;Discrimination Act Bill In Illinois The bill
    later passed after Obama had been elected to
    the US Senate.
    McCain Voted Against Extending the Civil
    Rights Act To Prohibit Job Discrimination
    Based On Sexual Orientation. McCain said &#8220;I
    don't believe that [homosexuals] belong in a
    special category. [&#8230;] That's why I voted the
    way that I did.&#8221;
    ADOPTION
    Obama
    Supports Full Adoption Rights For
    Same Sex Couples. Obama believes that LGBT
    people should have the same adoption rights
    as heterosexuals.
    McCain Opposed Gay Adoption. McCain said
    &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe in gay adoption.&#8221;
     
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    DEFENSE OF
    MARRIAGE ACT

    Obama Supports The Complete Repeal of
    DOMA. Obama believes we need to fully
    repeal the Defense of Marriage Act and enact
    legislation that would ensure that the 1,100+
    federal legal rights and benefits currently
    provided on the basis of marital status are
    extended to same&#8208;sex couples in civil unions
    and other legally&#8208;recognized relationships.
    McCain Voted For DOMA. McCain voted for
    passage of the Defense of Marriage Act, which
    denies federal legal rights and benefits for
    same&#8208;sex couples
     
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    MARRIAGE
    AMENDMENTS
    Obama
    Voted Against A Federal Amendment
    To Ban Same&#8208;Sex Marriage. Obama sided with
    the vast majority of Democrats opposing
    attempts by the Republican leadership to bring
    up a vote on a constitutional amendment to
    ban same sex&#8208;marriage
    Obama Opposes Discriminatory Constitutional
    Amendments. Obama &#8220;opposes all divisive
    and discriminatory Constitutional
    amendments, state or federal.&#8221; This includes
    the proposed amendments In California,
    Arizona and Florida.&#8221;
    McCain Said He Was Proud to Have Led an
    Effort To Ban Same&#8208;Sex Marriage In Arizona.
    McCain said &#8220;I'm proud to have led an effort in
    my home state to change our state
    Constitution to protect the sanctity of marriage
    between man and woman.&#8221;
    McCain Supports The California Gay Marriage
    Ban. In an e&#8208;mail to protectmarriage.com,
    McCain said &#8220;I support the efforts of the
    people of California to recognize marriage as a
    unique institution between a man and a
    woman, just as we did in my home state of
    Arizona.&#8221;
    McCain Says He Would Sign the Federal
    Marriage Amendment Into Law. When asked
    if he would sign the federal marriage
    amendment if elected President, McCain
    replied, &#8220;of course,&#8221; although he voted against
    the amendment in the Senate.
     
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    RELATIONSHIP
    RECOGNITION
    Obama Supports Civil Unions That Confer
    &#8220;The Equivalent Legal Rights As A Marriage
    License.&#8221; Obama said, &#8220;I am a strong
    supporter of civil unions&#8230;But I also believe that
    civil unions have to have the equivalent legal
    rights as a marriage license&#8230;Right now, there
    are about 1,200 legal rights that are available
    to married couples that aren't available to
    same&#8208;sex couples, even if the state recognizes
    civil unions&#8230;And that's not fair &#8208; that's
    discriminatory, and it's going to need to
    change.&#8221;
    McCain Opposes Civil Unions, Supports Few
    Legal Agreements For Same Sex Partners.
    HIV/AIDS
    PREVENTION
    Obama
    Voted For Increased Funding For AIDS
    Drug Assistance.
    Obama Worked To Reauthorize The Ryan
    White Act. Obama worked to reauthorize the
    Ryan White CARE Act, one of the largest
    sources of federal funds for primary health
    care and support services for HIV/AIDS
    patients.
    McCain Voted Against Increased Funding For
    AIDS Prevention And Treatment. McCain
    voted against increased funding for AIDS drug
    assistance and increased funding for the Ryan
    White CARE Act.
     
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    GAYS IN THE
    MILITARY
    Obama
    Supports Repealing Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t
    Tell. Obama believes we need to repeal the
    &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; policy and allow all
    servicemembers to serve openly. Obama will
    work with military leaders to repeal the current
    policy and ensure we accomplish our national
    defense goals.
    McCain Believes That Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell Is
    Working. McCain said &#8220;I believe that the don't
    ask, don't tell policy is working in the military.&#8221;
    McCain Said LGBT people &#8220;Intolerable Risk.&#8221;.
    In a 2007 letter, McCain said that the law,
    "unambiguously maintains that open
    homosexuality within the military services
    presents an intolerable risk to morale,
    cohesion and discipline."
     
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    My Momma always told me to keep my mouth shut if I didn't have anything nice to say about somebody but ... Gay Republicans? It doesn't make any sense. Idustrialsize has said it all! Read and heed!
     
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    HATE CRIMES
    Obama
    Passed Law in Illinois To Identify Hate
    Crimes, Add “Conspiracy Against Civil Rights”
    To List Of Hate Crimes
    Obama Said He Will Enact Federal Hate Crimes
    Legislation. In an open letter to gay voters
    Obama said, “I will place the weight of my
    administration behind the enactment of the
    Matthew Shepard Act to outlaw hate crimes
    and pass a fully inclusive Employment Non&#8208;
    Discrimination Act to outlaw workplace
    discrimination on the basis of sexual
    orientation and gender identity.”
    McCain Repeatedly Voted Against
    Strengthening Federal Hate Crimes Legislation
    To Include Gender And Sexual Orientation.
    McCain voted against adding sexual orientation
    to federal hate crimes legislation in 2000, 2002
    and 2004.

    These are the reasons the vast majority of Gay People are Democrats
     
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    Wyldgusechaz, realize that civil rights for gay & lesbian people go FAR beyond gay marriage. It's a biggie, but not the entire picture.

    But it looks like Industrialsize has this on lockdown. No need to dwell over this one.
     
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