MarkLondon
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Well I would say that I find that surprising. They have the occasional stupidity but numerous? I have no idea what is going on but i dare say it will be explained in due course.Oh, and on CNN they claim there have been numerous unexplained deaths in police custody. No sympathy for your bobbies after that.
Dunno. I would say things now are better than in the 80s. Generally. But property prices in London are still going up (eg, in Ealing), whereas over the whole country they are going down. So in London the disparity between rich and poor can only be getting wider all the time. It is the poor who riot. Want to be nice to your neighbour in leafy Ealing who works in a bank in the city? Ealing is quite a mixed area wealth wise.Ken Livingstone was saying that these riots are related to the recession; poverty/low incomes and high unemployment.
He drew parallels between these riots and the riots of the 80's. I dunno if it is related to the economy, if there is any real purpose to it. If I remember rightly, the riots in the 80's started off as protests with pickets etc then became violent.
Riots are usually quite effective in getting your point across. Even if that point is just there are a lot of generally disaffected youth out there and the matter is dangerously out of control.These riots just started off violent and seem to be staying that way. If they wanted to affect change then they are doing it the wrong way. Of course, I doubt they want anything except to cause trouble since most of them are teenage tearaways anyway.
I saw Clegg being filmed going round and talking to people. Ah, I thought, I see the lib dems are being shafted again, sent out to give more bad news.PS: David Cameron is just now cutting short his holiday to come to England and say how awful the riots are. It shows how much he cares about the country.
Underestimated as a quality store worth robbing.Even Best Buy is getting a kicking.
Even Best Buy is getting a kicking.
I dont believe that. Pretty much all benefits have been falling in real terms except perhaps those paying for rent, etc, which kinda have to keep up with market rates. I agree about the being paid to be at school bit, which i never understood. Suss may have gone, but i understand now they stop you on suspiscion of being a terrorist. Black terrorist's, for preference, but I expect they stop a few arab looking ones too.Let's face it, the suss laws have gone, stop & search only operates mainly on gangs of youths, kids are getting paid to stay at school, & the amount of benefit you get from having a child on social security is about 2.5 times higher in real terms than in the 1980s..
These riots just started off violent and seem to be staying that way. If they wanted to affect change then they are doing it the wrong way. Of course, I doubt they want anything except to cause trouble since most of them are teenage tearaways anyway.
I dont believe that. Pretty much all benefits have been falling in real terms except perhaps those paying for rent, etc, which kinda have to keep up with market rates. I agree about the being paid to be at school bit, which i never understood.
Ah you mean benefits givento people who are working rather than benefits to people who arent.
Nope, you get child tax credit if you don't work too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you're out of work, it's £59.36 for the 1st kid, & £48.93/wk for each subsequent one, plus child benefit! Therefore, my calculation should be £65, & £48 a week respectively better off in real terms re 1981
They just interviewed an eye witness to the sony fire who said he saw 20 guys leaving with goods and petrol cans. Wonder why sony was storing petrol cans there...oh silly me, the guys must have taken them along in case they wanted to dispose of waste cardboard from the electrical goods they were collecting.
Ken Livingstone talks out of his arse hole and always has.He will NEVER critizice those who he thinks will vote for him and will gladly make these vermin into heroes whilst blaming the police at the same time.THAT is why he is our EX mayor.Here in Croydon things are pretty normal today and for those of us that work and contribute to our community life is going on as normal.I have more faith in David Cameron than either Blair or Brown,who'd probably have given all the scumbag rioters £1,000 each to write a play about it!!!!Ken Livingstone was saying that these riots are related to the recession; poverty/low incomes and high unemployment.
He drew parallels between these riots and the riots of the 80's. I dunno if it is related to the economy, if there is any real purpose to it. If I remember rightly, the riots in the 80's started off as protests with pickets etc then became violent.
These riots just started off violent and seem to be staying that way. If they wanted to affect change then they are doing it the wrong way. Of course, I doubt they want anything except to cause trouble since most of them are teenage tearaways anyway.
PS: David Cameron is just now cutting short his holiday to come to England and say how awful the riots are. It shows how much he cares about the country.