Long Dong Silver and related "freaks"--Real?

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Donk: First off, a couple apologies: (1) Sorry if anyone is offended by the reference to "freaks". (2) Sorry for reigniting a debate that has been discussed before (though I think not on the current version of LPSG). I brought up this topic in another thread recently and stated I did not intend to re-start an old debate. But I got inspired to do a Google search on the guys in question and then thought it would be interesting to get people's thoughts.

Most of us have heard of the legendary "Long Dong Silver" who was featured in some porn films of the late 70's or early 80's. LDS was a black guy who was claimed to have an 18" penis. Much less famous are two white guys who also appeared on film at about the same time--"Moby Dick" a.k.a. "The Texas Longhorn" was billed as having 17", "Mr. MX" (named after the MX Missile, which was in the news at the time) was supposed to have 16.5". (The actual inches are probably slightly exaggerated, but that's not really the point. All of these guys easily had well over a foot. The question is whether the penises were real in the first place.)

I first became aware of these guys when I was a teenager in the 80's from ads for videos that appeared in some old porn mags I acquired. The magazines dated from about 1980-82. I was fascinated by them--probably because these were penises that were actually bigger than mine and certainly made me feel like I was less of a "freak" myself! Most of my knowledge about them comes from these ads and the pics in them. In college, a friend of mine once got a video that had clips of LDS and "Moby Dick"/"Texas Longhorn" (who mysteriously spoke with a Cockney accent) so I got to see those two in action.

Anyway, for several reasons, I happen to believe these penises were for real. The main reason is that porn films of the time simply did not have the technology or the budget to do fancy special effects. And these penises look realistic, especially compared to some other photos/video clips where a guy is obviously wearing a rubber dildo. They also behaved like real penises of that size probably would--they did not really get hard, they ejactulated--with the cum just oozing out rather than squirting--and they did not actually penetrate the women in the videos. Finally, these guys were butt ugly and I would think the only way they could get into any kind of video would be based on their dick size (ala Ron Jeremy, but twice as big). Also, I have read claims that there are pics of Long Dong Silver where he just has a regular size penis, but I have never seen these and the people who mention that "fact" don't cite any references.

Anyway, I came across some pics at the following link: http://www.d-sex.de/_brd/long.html

There are two pics of LDS. The blond white guy (wearing the leather harness and with two girls in the pic) is a known fake with a rubber dildo strapped on who made videos in the early 90's under the name "Long Dan Silver." The other white guy pictured (with the barbell) is "Mr. MX." (Even though the text only refers to Moby Dick/Texas Longhorn, the guy pictured is actually the Mr. MX from the ads and Moby Dick is not pictured. This is the only photo of Mr. MX that I have seen outside of those ads. My Google search did not turn up any pics of Moby Dick.)

When looking at these photos, keep a couple facts in mind: (1) They are NOT digitally enhanced. These pics match pics that appear in pre-1982 magazines, when they did not have Photoshop or anything like it. (2) They are also not airbrushed--these are stills from videos where the guys were moving and interacting with women. The only possibilities are that the penises are real or--like Long Dan' Silver's--rubber fakes attached to the guys.

So, with all that in mind, what do you think? Were these guys for real?

 

[Pecker]

Nope, not for real.

Notice they either wore straps (which would be redundant with a real schlong) or they were pictured holding the base of the "penis", which would not be constantly necessary in a normal situation.

It was a curious, amusing fad for a while. I'm glad it ran its course but everything old returns eventually. Perhaps advances in prostheses will make the next phase a little harder to expose.

Pecker

 

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Donk: [quote author=bilbobagginsx link=board=meetgreet;num=1052830199;start=0#1 date=05/13/03 at 05:59:43]
Notice they either wore straps (which would be redundant with a real schlong) or they were pictured holding the base of the "penis", which would not be constantly necessary in a normal situation.
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I don't know if you looked at the pics on the page I linked to, but none of them are holding their penises and the only one with a strap that I can see is Long Dan Silver, the one obvious fake.

P.S. I'm not trying to pick a fight. Just wondering what the honest reaction is of people who compare the same photos I am looking at.

 

[Pecker]

Sorry, Donk, had I checked out your link before responding I would have been clearer.  The men I had in mind would hold the base of the "penis" when in action (remember "Rambone"?).

Not necessary in poses.

This is a good topic for discussion about an odd part of porn history.  You should get many interesting pro/con responses.

Pecker

 

[txquis]

It is difficult to tell,
but i think some of them probably were real, Donk.

I know that such "acts of nature" do happen
now and again.

I know what you mean about seeing those
guys in mags and thinking, "they are bigger than me".
That intrigued me too.

But around here, there are lots of people
bigger than me, so i stay intrigued

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

I've met a couple of people who knew 'Moby Dick'. They tell me that the accent was fake, but the cock is real. I asked if it was actually as big as the text claimed. They said that they never measured it personally, but it was easily over a foot, and easily bigger than Jonah Falcon's.

 

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pjtack69: Long Dan Silver and several other rubber wonders of the late 1980s were fakes curtesy of Ranch-O-Rama video productions. They all wore the same leather strap and were only shown with one, fixed state of dildo-like erection.
Long Dong Silver, the Texas Lonhorn, and Mr MX on the other hand were quite real as evidenced by the wide range of erection states they were shown in. Long Dong appeared in several photo spreads and a couple of videos. Unfortunately both of his hardcore scenes are fake (including one with Seka) with no penetration so it's not clear his equipment actually worked. Mr. MX appeared in one photo spread and video (Club Magazine). In these he does have sex with a skinny blonde. In both cases you could see them flacid, erect and in between. The Lexas Longhorn on the other hand only appeared in one video from which there was also still shots. All he does is show it off and have it gingerly handled by a very nervous woman. It too goes from semi to hard and was obviously real. He also offers the woman the chance to try it out which gets a real cold reaction. There were a couple other super hung guys in the golden age of porn, but all of them were relatively annonymous. Mr 18" is their equal today though he honestly only has about 12" (when fully hard which is rare) and usually fakes his cum shots.
Guys who are honestly in the 12" club are very rare and those willing to do porn are much rarer still. Anyone who qualifies and wants to set up their own amateur site might find it very profitable because there's no competition.

 

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Donk: [quote author=bilbobagginsx link=board=meetgreet;num=1052830199;start=0#3 date=05/13/03 at 06:17:45]Sorry, Donk, had I checked out your link before responding I would have been clearer.  The men I had in mind would hold the base of the "penis" when in action (remember "Rambone"?).
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I appreciate the clarification and I know the videos you mean. The thing is, in these videos and even still pics from them ("Long Dan Silver" is the one example I have actually watched) the fakery is obvious. Aside from the straps and hands at the base, the penises just look like they were made of rubber.

But the guys I'm talking about just don't look like obvious fakes and don't have the telltale clues you mention. If they were fakes, they were excellent fakes.

For example, in the video clips I saw of Long Dong Silver and Moby Dick, they weren't always holding the base with their hands, though they did sometimes. (Although I don't think that's an automatic disqualifier. When a very long penis is in a somewhat "squishy" state, squeezing it at the base can make it stiff enough to stuff into an opening. I speak from experience here. ) I also observed the different states of erection mentioned by another poster (though neither of them ever got really "hard").

My point is just that I know there are alot of fake giant penises on video, but I happen to believe that these three were genuine freaks of nature and the existence of fakers doesn't change that. (BTW, I would also put "Dick Rambone" in the category of real based on a photo spread I once saw of him with several very close-up stills from a video. But his length was obviously exaggerated (I think he claimed 16") and it seemed he could not get a hard erection.)

 

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Curtis: I bought a "Long Dong Silver" VHS tape 15 or so years ago, answering one of those magazine ads. The tape was quite poor quality and didn't show much detail. It featured LDS and a Sandy Haired white guy in separate scenes.

The white guy was videotaped during a photo shoot that included him and a scantily-clad woman who, judging by her reaction upon his entrance, had not seen him before. Both had British accents. His penis hung around 14" (my guess). I would bet that this cock was a fake. There was something quite unnatural about the way it moved and swung about. The woman in the scene barely touched it, and I never saw the skin move on its surface like penis skin does.

There were three scenes with LDS, (made famous by Professor Anita Hill - remember that snippet of American History?) including the pretend copulation with Seka mentioned in a previous post. One scene showed him on a stage dancing around with two women who touched his "trouser snake" only very gently. He swung it around, slapping these two women on the ass with it. While I won't swear to its authenticity, it did seem to have the flexibility and characteristic movement that one would expect from a flaccid penis. In another scene it was slightly larger and seemed more stiff.

It does seem strange that someone so unique and amazing would show up in only a few scenes and then disappear into thin air. You would think that a guy like that would get more work (even if its ability to function was limited) and that there would be much more photos and video footage floating around.

Curtis

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

I would be willing to bet that the video you saw was from the Electric Blue series shot in England. It featured Seka, LDS and Moby Dick (who was probably the 'sandy haired' guy you referred to. There were several grainy bootlegs in the US in the early 80s. I have been assured that Moby Dick (or the Texas Longhorn, if you prefer) sported a truly stupendous organ. Someone else (someone who supposedly knows) recently told me that LDS's cock is as big as it looks, but he has never been able to produce an erection firm enough to achieve penetration. Believe it or not: a porno star who is a virgin in regard to intercourse!

 

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Donk: That sounds like the same tape I saw. The white guy was "Moby Dick" (aka "Texas Longhorn").

 

[musc069]

I saw several vids with Dick Rambone including one amazing one with an older woman who coaxed his cock from relatively small and very flaccid to full fledged (and rarely attained) erection. It was as if he blew up like a ballon and was very hot and sexy. He really seemed to get off on this woman. I would agree though with those who say no way was he 16". My guess was closer to 11-12. But on those rare shots when it was fully erect, it was quite the specimen.

 

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CardiffDillon: Around 10 years ago I taped a late-night 'documentary' which had an interview with the guy who claimed to have made the Long Dong Silver video and photshoot, and I still have the video somewhere.

In the interview he claimed that the thing was done on two levels - very high quality prosthetics and makeup for the stills photography, to convince doubters with magnifiers looking for the join, and slightly less convincing, but more functional, latex prosthetic cocks for the action sequences. Several cocks were used for the production and he produced a box containing one of the latex cocks used during the shoot, which was in a very sad state of repair.

I remember how disappointed I was to hear that LDS was a fake and even then I thought it was real but that the only way you'd get a guy with a 17" cock on TV was to claim it was a fake! Real conspiracy theory stuff

cheers,

Dillon

 

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pjtack69: Both Rambone and John Holmes had admitted that they were 10" long. Both were advertised as being much bigger which many people accepted having never seen even a 10" dick. Both Holmes and Rambone lived in the pre-Viagra age and had to deal with keeping it hard. In Holmes case drug abuse played a big part in his sizable decline. In Rambone's case, probably his dissatisfaction with the industry didn't help his enthusiasm on screen. The scene mentioned where he get's truly fully size is an amateur scene where he's obviously much more focused on the woman than worried about a director and camera men. For size comparison, Lex Steele is currently the 'Big' man in the industry and in one of his earliest video scenes a girl measures him at 9 3/4". He now claims he's 11" and most people accept it. It's like they say, the camera can add pounds and/or inches.

 

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Jimbo: Pjtack69:

Actually Lex Steele is not the current length winner in today's porn circuit. Here is link to a site with a guy who used to bill himself as "Mr. 18" or "Tony T" and has now come "down" to calling himself Mr. 13 on his website (most of his vids still have the older names though). I have seen some of his vids and he appears to actually be in the 11+ range in my estimation, but rarely gets fully hard. At least one of his vid clips is floating around on Kazaa showing him doing a Mexican lady (type "big dicks" in video category search and it will turn up).

http://www.mr13inch.com/

 

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two_fister: mr 13 inch is big, but like everyone else has been saying.....he hardly ever acheives a full erection......the guy with the biggest dick who always is very, very hard is Mandingo, I think he has a new line of tapes out, made with West Coast Productions.
I've also been hearing of this new guy, Mr. Bigg, but I've yet to see him in action.

 

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CardiffDillon: Mr Bigg is the 'straight' screen name of gay porn performer 'Bam'. Bam, also known as Virgil Cannon in his Playgirl photoshoot, has been in gay porn since the mid 90's and has hundreds of titles to his name including Black Balled, Chocolate Dessert, Black Heat, Bam and Bam 2.

Bam, billed as being 13", has also suffered with serious wood problems during his career although, even when it hangs half-hard, his dick is mightily impressive . Lets see if the ladies can do any better than the guys in raising that monster

cheers,

Dillon

 

[Zot57]

[quote author=Jimbo link=board=meetgreet;num=1052830199;start=12#14 date=05/16/03 at 07:21:57]Pjtack69:

Actually Lex Steele is not the current length winner in today's porn circuit. Here is link to a site with a guy who used to bill himself as "Mr. 18" or "Tony T" and has now come "down" to calling himself Mr. 13 on his website (most of his vids still have the older names though). I have seen some of his vids and he appears to actually be in the 11+ range in my estimation, but rarely gets fully hard. At least one of his vid clips is floating around on Kazaa showing him doing a Mexican lady (type "big dicks" in video category search and it will turn up).

http://www.mr13inch.com/[/quote]


I think he also goes by "Tony Duncan" and "Tony Titanic" as well.

-- Erik

 

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lksbigone:
Have seen the "Mr. Bigg & His Bitches" series, #1-6. They're da bomb. Pretty girls, good lighting, humor and Bam has transformed himself into Mr. B-I-G-G. Wood problems are in his gay video past. True, he's not the manhood of Mandingo but at least you can tell when he's truly excited.

My top five in the performers size category (no order preference): John Holmes; Mandingo; Tony "Mr. 18 Inches" Duncan; Rambone; Chad Hunt; honorable mention for Chad Thomas--as "eye candy".

 

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spd: I can't find it now but somewhere I read an interview with John Holmes and he admitted that he was " a wide based 7 1/2 inches " and not actually as big as claimed. Not to take anything away from him, he was impressive whatever his real size was.