Looks Like OBAMACARE is going down in flames!!!!!

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today, all the women's preventative health care measures, with no co-pays or premiums , go into effect as part of Obamacare. not only did it NOT go down in flames, it is gaining in popularity, especially among women(who are the majority in the voting population). this means preventative care for birth control and STD prevention are now mandated everywhere in the nation, as part of any health insurance coverage you may have. another victory for Obama.
 
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today, all the women's preventative health care measures, with no co-pays or premiums , go into effect as part of Obamacare. not only did it NOT go down in flames, it is gaining in popularity, especially among women(who are the majority in the voting population). this means preventative care for birth control and STD prevention are now mandated everywhere in the nation, as part of any health insurance coverage you may have. another victory for Obama.

You mean a big victory for insurers. And a decent victory for women.
 

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Interesting conversation today. Had the nieghbors (devout republicans who think Obama is satan) over for dinner and they said they got two checks in the mail from their health insurance company yesterday. They asked if I had gotten one. They seemed confused as to why they would get a check. They called their insurance company and asked. All they told was "It is a new policy to refund the excess funds that are not used for your healthcare." When I tried to explain that the 20% for the company and 80% for your healthcare and the refund of the unused money was a part of Affordable Care Act(aka Obamacare) they didn't believe me.

I had to pull up the ACA on the net and show them the actual words in the law. They just stared and mumbled "No that's not... Obamacare is... this is fake. Can't be right... No... We bought a new washer with that money." It's right infront of them and they still didn't believe it.

When I told them all the preventative care for women would no long cost them anything they again did not believe me. I had to scroll through the law and show them the section about womens preventative care. Again they looked confused "So I don't have to pay for my breast exam or... I can't believe this. This can't be right." They left shortly after.

A few minutes later I am taking out the trash and look cross the street. I see them arguing in their living room and occasionally pointing to a laptop on the coffee table... can't imagine what they could be talking about....
 
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Classic story! bet that kind of awakening is happening in quite a few republican households across the country right now.

(off topic....My cc interest was cut to .99% and a few of my friends in foreclosure had thier mortgage payments cut in half thank to regulations put in place under obama.)
 
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You mean a big victory for insurers. And a decent victory for women.

I don't know if it's a big win for insurers. Wall Street thinks it will be a wash since they will have to do a lot previously they declined to do like cover pre-existing conditions. They win is the hospitals who now can recover some of the billions lost on the uninsured.
 

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I don't know if it's a big win for insurers. Wall Street thinks it will be a wash since they will have to do a lot previously they declined to do like cover pre-existing conditions. They win is the hospitals who now can recover some of the billions lost on the uninsured.

We have mandated that people buy a product from the insurers for which we have very little control over the cost. You've already seen rates jump since the passage of the law, to account for things like this, and it will continue to go up.

Of course the bill is a big win for them.
 

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Yeah , actually it is a HUGE win for women, not only b/c of the preventative care but also prior to the passing of the ACA being a woman was actually considered a pre-existing condition. Yet again women are marginalized for no other reason than their gender, this should really incense Americans of all political stripes.
We ALL have a mother, sister, wife, aunt etc....how can we be comfortable with them being seen as LESS THAN men, in any form.

Be it in pay, especially in this day and age when women are nearly 50% of the breadwinners for the American household, or in being seen as LESS than a man where health is concerned.
Now when you demean women in policy in anyway, you're inadvertently hurting her whole family.

I think this is why there is such a huge gender divide between President Obama & Shitt Flopney

HH
 

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what evidence? please share

Really? *sigh*.

College
Why They Seem to Rise Together:Federal Aid and College Tuition

Just about all food.
The True Cost of Corn Ethanol : Greentech Media

The Postal Service.

That's just to name a few.

Yeah this is just fiction. 'Everyone wants free healthcare'. Seriously? I've never heard that from anyone. Is that something you just made up? They want affordable health care. There is reams and reams of evidence that the US pays the most and gets the least for healthcare.

You don't want free healthcare? If it was magically able to be provided at no detriment to anyone else you wouldn't accept it? Of course you would.
 

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Interesting conversation today. Had the nieghbors (devout republicans who think Obama is satan) over for dinner and they said they got two checks in the mail from their health insurance company yesterday. They asked if I had gotten one. They seemed confused as to why they would get a check. They called their insurance company and asked. All they told was "It is a new policy to refund the excess funds that are not used for your healthcare." When I tried to explain that the 20% for the company and 80% for your healthcare and the refund of the unused money was a part of Affordable Care Act(aka Obamacare) they didn't believe me.

I had to pull up the ACA on the net and show them the actual words in the law. They just stared and mumbled "No that's not... Obamacare is... this is fake. Can't be right... No... We bought a new washer with that money." It's right infront of them and they still didn't believe it.

When I told them all the preventative care for women would no long cost them anything they again did not believe me. I had to scroll through the law and show them the section about womens preventative care. Again they looked confused "So I don't have to pay for my breast exam or... I can't believe this. This can't be right." They left shortly after.

A few minutes later I am taking out the trash and look cross the street. I see them arguing in their living room and occasionally pointing to a laptop on the coffee table... can't imagine what they could be talking about....
I read your story and pictured my old neighbors, who were so anti-Obama they actually thought the story from World Net Daily about him being the AntiChrist was real news. I've voted Republican in the past, and genuinely like some of their ideas and ideals, but the party of today is a disgrace. It panders to extreme ideologues, practices voter disenfranchisement as if it were fair play, and relies heavily on the votes of the gullible idiots most susceptible to their mudslinging. If they continue on their present route, I think we'll see them fall from power entirely in the next couple decades. The baby boomer vote is huge for them, but what happens when those people start to die, and they have almost no popularity with the youngest voters emerging to replace them?
Yeah I'm sure the insurance industry is going out of business any day now.
The insurance companies don't need to go out of business, they just need to stop gouging people for their service. Seriously though, the 80% minimum spent on patient care is a big restriction. It keeps the price that goes into insurance relatively proportional to actual costs, while still allowing the insurance companies to make a tidy profit. It's just not an obscene profit like it used to be.

I will say that this is actually a big win for Obama though. More and more people are going to become attached to the bill, seriously decreasing the chances it could ever be repealed, even if Republicans took over both houses of Congress. The additional support also means that any attempts the insurance companies make to sabotage the legislation's workings will be more likely to have blame assigned where it belongs. It puts the insurance companies in a spot where, if they don't become the companies that we need, they'll bring either the public option or single payer healthcare down on their own heads. Either way it's a victory for the American people.
 

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The left is in full panic mode. Like with most issues, they thought reason was on their side on this one but like always, it wasn't.

Toobin: 'This Law Looks Like It's Going To Be Struck Down' - YouTube

Totally premature but I cannot resist myself:


You should have resisted. Repblicans have dodged a bullet today.

It looks like Obamacare has faced its last challenge.

A happy, healthy America is a strong America. Millions are benefiting from the ACA, and this will continue for a long time.