losing male virginity
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ColonialBoy
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Ooh thats easy.
Just tell him to fuk chicks in the ass. They are still 'technically christian virgins'. She can use a strapon too.
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CowboyJosh
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no jerking off is not losing your virginity, however you get your man card the first time you actually ejaculate a respectable load.
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I think it's any time you perform a sexual act with another person, such as sucking dick, getting sucked, licking pussy, or getting licked. And, yeah, penetrative sex is a given. Masturbation, no. Stroking someone, or getting stroked, possibly.
IMO, if you touched someone else's genitalia, or they touched yours in a manner to give some gratification, then that is having sex.
IMO, if you touched someone else's genitalia, or they touched yours in a manner to give some gratification, then that is having sex.
Is masturbation sinful? Yes - if you are a member of a tiny desert tribe that needs every fertile member to be pumping out babies to keep the tribe going when they all die in childbirth. The bible says no less. And is appropriate for a tribe needing 25 babies in the 25 years of fertility of the ladies - requiring men who might die in war to start fucking them before an age which would be appropriate on this website.
At 24 this man is 13 years beyond his prime, and is living by the laws of a desert tribe from 2500 years ago. And he probably laughs at the Amish for not using toasters.
Remind him that (biblical) God intended us to be dead at the age of 40, and ask him whether he wants to see his grandchildren (the bible generally believes he will be dead by then).
Ask him too why 98% of American marriages are entered into with non-virgin entrants, and whether his Christian resistance has any relevance in modern society. and the ask him what is the point he is trying to prove. If he must be the 2% for religious reasons, then let him be. I don't agree with him, and I don't think you do OP, but have the discussion, tell him it is ok if his hand slips one night, and that God will understand, but if he really wants to remain celibate then you respect that.
A more logical approach for him which I think the whole world would enjoy, is that he should enjoy as much sex as he has available to him without pissing off anyone else. Jerking off watching porn at home - very cool; jerking off on the subway on an stranger - no. Having a great date with a hot chick with big tits and going back to her place for coffee ... she pulls out your penis and you shoot on her tits - very cool; you hold her down to fuck her mouth while she tries to get away - no. Some of this stuff needs to be explained to a 24 yo who thinks that jerking off is wrong - and if jerking off becomes ok then any girl being nice is the devil anyway. If I'm going to hell because she touched my dick, then I may as well have sex, whether she wants it or not.
Your goal as a good friend is to introduce sex as God intended for the 21st century. Since we're in our prime in our teens and marrying in our 30s, the point is for sex to be recreational, pleasurable, and respectful. It is bad for the testicles not to be emptied on a regular basis in the teens and 20s. It is silly not to learn about relationships earlier than marriage given the changed nature of marriage/coupledom.
You also need to be sensitive - this guy sounds a bit like me in college - terribly closeted and hiding behind religion. If this is him, same things apply - get his rocks off, and respect others he comes into contact with.
M
At 24 this man is 13 years beyond his prime, and is living by the laws of a desert tribe from 2500 years ago. And he probably laughs at the Amish for not using toasters.
Remind him that (biblical) God intended us to be dead at the age of 40, and ask him whether he wants to see his grandchildren (the bible generally believes he will be dead by then).
Ask him too why 98% of American marriages are entered into with non-virgin entrants, and whether his Christian resistance has any relevance in modern society. and the ask him what is the point he is trying to prove. If he must be the 2% for religious reasons, then let him be. I don't agree with him, and I don't think you do OP, but have the discussion, tell him it is ok if his hand slips one night, and that God will understand, but if he really wants to remain celibate then you respect that.
A more logical approach for him which I think the whole world would enjoy, is that he should enjoy as much sex as he has available to him without pissing off anyone else. Jerking off watching porn at home - very cool; jerking off on the subway on an stranger - no. Having a great date with a hot chick with big tits and going back to her place for coffee ... she pulls out your penis and you shoot on her tits - very cool; you hold her down to fuck her mouth while she tries to get away - no. Some of this stuff needs to be explained to a 24 yo who thinks that jerking off is wrong - and if jerking off becomes ok then any girl being nice is the devil anyway. If I'm going to hell because she touched my dick, then I may as well have sex, whether she wants it or not.
Your goal as a good friend is to introduce sex as God intended for the 21st century. Since we're in our prime in our teens and marrying in our 30s, the point is for sex to be recreational, pleasurable, and respectful. It is bad for the testicles not to be emptied on a regular basis in the teens and 20s. It is silly not to learn about relationships earlier than marriage given the changed nature of marriage/coupledom.
You also need to be sensitive - this guy sounds a bit like me in college - terribly closeted and hiding behind religion. If this is him, same things apply - get his rocks off, and respect others he comes into contact with.
M
In many faiths, Christian and otherwise, masturbation is considered sinful - though that sin is separate from the sin of sex for non-procreative reasons. So whether he is, in our opinion or his own, losing his virginity is immaterial.
If he is not comfortable in his own faith and philosophy with masturbation then, really, what's it to you?
If he is not comfortable in his own faith and philosophy with masturbation then, really, what's it to you?
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