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"The Lost City of Atlantis?" Skull, you're out of your skull--wasn't it a continent?

Anyway, various clues have been planted. It heals some injuries. One of the books seen in the hatch was "Incident at Owl Creek Bridge" by Ambrose Bierce.
THE THIRD POLICEMAN by Flann O'Brien. The weird insistence that it is a science experiment. (Aliens?) People watching people watching people. The island is in some sort of vortex which enables it to be missed by Radar.

Etc. Slow? Not really, but the writers and producers wanted it to be compact, and not wear out its welcome like the X FILES did.
 

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Just to explain further my Atlantis theory. Atlantis has been theorized to exist somewhere in or near antarctica. Thousands of years ago, when it was said to have existed, the antarctic was much more warm and lush. Buried beneath all that ice is a lush, green, tropic-esque environment.

The advanced civilization of Atlanteans, in response to the changing climates of the ice ages created a machine, or had the technology, to create an electro-magnetic field around the island, extended up to the heavens. This forces any cold weather around the electromagnetic field and the island. Ever see the electromagnetic field surrounding the earth and how it extends out from the poles? That is where our aurora borealis come from, when solar wind particles can enter our atmosphere and react see Image:Magnetosphere schematic.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe this EMF doesn't allow the land to be found. Any compasses go crazy when near the island so it is never found. Maybe some type of anomaly occured when the plane got too close or whatever. But nonetheless these people on the island would like to keep their find (or if they are descendants their land) a secret from the outside world at large and will do anything to protect it.

I don't watch enough of the show to go into details about everything that happens, but sometimes a basic, more realistic example often proves correct. The principle of Occams Razor states that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory.

This is often paraphrased as "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best." In other words, when multiple competing theories are equal in other respects, the principle recommends selecting the theory that introduces the fewest assumptions and postulates the fewest entities. All these little events and details on the show are just to plug a storyline in as the show moves along. In the end, its not just about where they are, because once you know thats all the show will be, but if it creates an intricate story line along the way it will be more memorable (think sopranos).

So what is more realistic; that oceanic flight whatever19 somehow magically wandered into a portal and magically wisked themselves away to another dimension or fell into a wormhole and now live in a land buried underneath the sea or they simply stumbled across an unknown land that has been impossible to find because an advanced peoples made it so?

I also found the four toed statue interesting. Possibly the Atlanteans were a different race of humans like neanderthals, except they were brilliant or what have you. Although one could argue the four toes would be from a human in our future as the use of our pinky toe causes us to lose it in the future. But whatever people, Occams Razor in the house (even though its just a show and not a scientific theory).

I hope the creators don't make it something really far fetched and stupid. It should be more plausible. If it is something dumb then that won't be cool.
 

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The plane on the show was traveling from Australia to the United States, in opposite of the direction your are hinting at--further South.

Plato's account of Atlantis has it beyond the Pillars of Hercules--the gap between Spain and Africa--which would place it in the Atlantic.

It's TV show, Skull, and the final explanation might be far more far fetched than the reality grounding you are seeking.

THE THIRD POLICEMAN, one of the books mentioned on the show has a policeman arresting someone's bicycle. Why? After years of bouncing up and down on the Irish roads, it must contain half the criminals molecules, so the police hanged the bicycle.

THE OWL CREEK story has a man live a vast life just before being hanged. Escape, freedom, the whole works. Then the door drops.

That Atlantis was actually Antarctica has been a recent theory press in recent years, owing the various maps drawn a thousand years old that show the southern content as it appeared without ice. (There are many many other details in this, and whole bnooks have been written about it).
 

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I don't get what your saying about the books.

And a lost theoretical civilizations called Lemuria is thought to have existed in Indonesia, so that would be more along your flight path.

And regardless of where Atlantis was though to have existed, Plato or any traveler would have to cross the Pillars of Hercules to the mediterranean sea no matter what. So really, anything outside of the mediterranean area would be beyond the Pillars of Hercules, including New Jersey.
 

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A couple of books titled FINGERPRINTS OF THE GODS, MESSAGE OF THE SPHINX, and a cluster of the '2012" Maya Cosmogenesis titles seem to center some of this thinking around it.

Lemuria was a concept developed by Madam Blavatsky in the 19th Century. Most of her material was channeled.

Indonesia is north and west of Australia, not north and east.
 

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Forgive my naivety, I still don't understand what you are getting at with the books.

And Lemuria, Mu, I always thought was a polynesian story passed down over time. Of a lost continent that sunk into the ocean after a giant tsunami, and that it extended from polynesia to the pacific ocean. Hawaii and the pacific islands are said to be the remaining mountain peaks of the lost continent.

My mention of Pacifica (lemuria) in the Indian ocean would be the eastern (or it is western over there) part of the continent, extending east through the pacific ocean.

Lemurians are believed to have had advanced mental powers of ESP, telepathy, and teleportation. And survivors of the cataclysm are said to have populated other areas of the world, such as the mayans. The only 2012 link I can bring to those books you mentioned is the end of the world mayan calender date, which to me would fall in line with a past civilization dealing with cataclysms etc...

And blatavskys Lemuria was based more on the occult and she was responsible for it coming to the attention of western society (i think), not the stories passed down over the generations is my understanding. She was one of the original people to coin the name Lemuria (although not the first I believe) as it was known as Mu before then.
 

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Last season's episodes were slow and plodding and I was sure that this season would be the last. But having seen the first two episodes I've been bitten with the island bug again. It is one of the best shows on TV.

I'm just pissed that Charlie got axed.
 

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Last season's episodes were slow and plodding and I was sure that this season would be the last. But having seen the first two episodes I've been bitten with the island bug again. It is one of the best shows on TV.

I'm just pissed that Charlie got axed.
I liked Charlie too, he was a decent bloke.

The plane on the show was traveling from Australia to the United States, in opposite of the direction your are hinting at--further South. This is true but the pilot who eventually died in the first or second episode of the first season, said that they were approximately 1500 miles of course. Who knows in which direction or course they were going when they went down.

Plato's account of Atlantis has it beyond the Pillars of Hercules--the gap between Spain and Africa--which would place it in the Atlantic. That's what I had always been led to believe. Hence the name Atlantis! :rolleyes: :duh:

It's TV show, Skull, and the final explanation might be far more, far fetched than the reality grounding you are seeking. Agreed.I don't think it's prudent to look for a logical explanation in this or any other television show.

THE THIRD POLICEMAN, THE OWL CREEK
Re: the aforementioned books, IMO it is at best foolhardy to read anything into these or any other books seen on the island. IGiven the crap that proliferates the airwaves lately, I don't think script writers believe most Americans can read.:rolleyes::tongue:
 

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The more I think about it the more I think they are at one of the poles...why was hurley drawing an igloo and an eskimo? What about the sunburned penguin that michael drew for walt? You should read up on hollow earth theory as well.

All the magnetic anomalies goin down...arctic expeditions. The ho-hos, and the H-O game of horse between jack and hurley. Ho Ho Ho. santa clause be chillin at the poles.

Isn't dharma interested in climate control as well?
 

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I like the Atlantis idea. One problem: there are no penguins in the north pole and no polar bears in the south pole.

I've been wanting to know what that black cloud is since the first episode. They asked Ben what it was in the last episode and i thought, "finally." But, as usual, the question wasn't answered.

Why can John walk?
What is in that room that makes your thoughts come true?
WTF is Dharma for?
What was that symbol on the polar bear's collar?
How could that scottish guy see the future?
Where does the magnetic field come from?
How did Sun get pregnant if the women become infertile?

I have hundreds of other questions but those are the first that came to mind.

Sawyer kicks ass. I like Freckles too. Great characters on that show.
 

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The more I think about it the more I think they are at one of the poles...why was hurley drawing an igloo and an eskimo? What about the sunburned penguin that michael drew for walt? You should read up on hollow earth theory as well. Sorry but that sounds terribly boring Skully.

All the magnetic anomalies goin down...arctic expeditions. The ho-hos, and the H-O game of horse between jack and hurley. Ho Ho Ho. santa clause be chillin at the poles.

Isn't dharma interested in climate control as well? I think they are. But why can no woman deliver a baby on that island? Is it because of all the magnetic force fields?

Hurleys rehab place was in SANTA rosa as well. So its ho ho ho, santa rosa, and hurleys igloo painting in one episode...
Yeah that was weird but only because we never new he could draw before. Why did he lie to the cop about knowing his partner, whats-her-name Lucia?