Lovin' Gaga's new vid!!!

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Am I the only one wondering who the fuck this person is and why anyone gives a shit about her?

Seriously...another pop tart with dubious talent and a penchant for saturating overproduced Autotuned sonic shit with insipid lyrics?

I couldn't stand her for the longest time. She looked like a talentless drag queen. I even wrote this earlier this year. I have since completely changed my tune: she is a great song writer (how many female artists write their own songs?), a great piano player, a decent singer, and she can really work a crowd like no other female artist.

I'll confess that I love Poker Face, despite the insipid lyrics.

Yeah, that's something for everyone to go gaga over. :rolleyes:
LMAO
 

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She also had a couple of great performances on SNL, including a medley of "LoveGame," "Bad Romance" & "Poker Face"... with some piano-only and acapella passages... AND, speaking of brilliant self-marketing, just such a phenom from about a quarter century ago (with much less vocal talent) was featured in a skit on that same show... surprise guest Madonna, in an all out mock-fight with her present-day version :cool:

Gaga's SNL Performances! - Lady Gaga's MySpace Blog |

Love ya, OC!

MUAH!!! thanks FLM :)
 

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I didn't get what the fuss was about ... and even her Papparazzi video and performance on MTV with the fake blood, etc...still wasn't getting it. I thought he was more about production with her fashion and outfits...and then I heard Bad Romance and I like it. I like the arrangement, even the overproduced synthetic sounding "you know that want you.."

I like it.. or maybe because I've had my share of bad romances.
 
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I didn't know much about this gal myself except for jokes and references to her rather bizarre tastes in fashion... until I saw her on the AMA. Then I realized 1) this girl has a nice little bod, 2) a quite pretty face (once she uncovers it from under whatever she happens to be wearing over it, and 3) she can sing her ass off. Add to the above her penchant for the visually unusual.

The result, imo, a talent well worth the attention.
 

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Serial Kisser is right. Lady Gaga uses a lot of occult symbolism and uses it accurately.

My response was to the article author's assertion that Gaga, Rhianna, Beyonce and others had been subjected to MK Ultra brainwashing by the Illuminati who are apparently in control of the music industry.

I don't deny her use of symbolism, I just doubt that it's subliminal leakage of traumatic reprogramming. She's more than intelligent enough to have engineered this additional mystery.

I should have been more specific in my post.
 

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Hmm Lady Gaga. i had never known much about her before I saw her on the AMA's and I thot she was good. Later her interview on Jay Leno was interesting but she struck me as someone who was trying too much to be interesting. I like her songs tho not my usual fare. She seems a a hybrid of the other performance artists Karen Finley and Phoebe Legere....if those two women had a child. She interesting but I think ultimately what will bore people w/her is that she chose that stupid stage name. Hopefully not but probably.
 

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She actually can sing, a lot better than most shit on the radio... NEED A I MENTION LIL' WAYNE.

I love Lady Gaga.. i think she is amazing at what she does...

What She does: create a huge media shit storm for her self , and SELL lots of records
 

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Serial Kisser is right. Lady Gaga uses a lot of occult symbolism and uses it accurately.

Though the material SerialKisser linked is correct inasmuch as many occult references and symbols are recognized and labeled, the conclusions are equal parts medieval and McCarthyite. Comment #7 after the first link (scroll down) sums up the fear and ignorance of the entire exercise, I think:

damian0815 November 15th, 2009 2:45 pm : I just wanted to know:
Isn´t ROMA some kind of gypsy-tribe? Do the gypsys actually pray to Ra ?
I have no idea to what intent Lady Gaga has in using such imagery; whether she is doing so:

1) Because she is a Satanist;
2) Because she finds such imagery erotic; or
3) Because she finds such imagery merely provocative.

I would guess that it's more a mixture of options (2) and (3): there is much about the video that is blatantly erotic though the song itself is proported to be a critique of the music industry. As such I'd hazard that she's equating the industry with evil (nicely personified by the Satanic symbolism) and prostitution (another theme symbolized quite well).

Assuming a nefarious scheme to recruit unsuspecting American youth to Satanism misses the point completely; if anything, it's doing quite the opposite. But such distinctions are likely lost to fundamentalists such as he or she who wrote the post linked.
 

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Though the material SerialKisser linked is correct inasmuch as many occult references and symbols are recognized and labeled, the conclusions are equal parts medieval and McCarthyite. Comment #7 after the first link (scroll down) sums up the fear and ignorance of the entire exercise, I think:

I have no idea to what intent Lady Gaga has in using such imagery; whether she is doing so:

1) Because she is a Satanist;
2) Because she finds such imagery erotic; or
3) Because she finds such imagery merely provocative.

I would guess that it's more a mixture of options (2) and (3): there is much about the video that is blatantly erotic though the song itself is proported to be a critique of the music industry. As such I'd hazard that she's equating the industry with evil (nicely personified by the Satanic symbolism) and prostitution (another theme symbolized quite well).

Assuming a nefarious scheme to recruit unsuspecting American youth to Satanism misses the point completely; if anything, it's doing quite the opposite. But such distinctions are likely lost to fundamentalists such as he or she who wrote the post linked.

I know what you're saying. I don't necessarily think that she's trying to convert people to satanism or anything like that, but the symbolism is latent in her videos.
 

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I know what you're saying. I don't necessarily think that she's trying to convert people to satanism or anything like that, but the symbolism is latent in her videos.

It's actually quite explicit; there's nothing latent about them at all (though I find the equation of gazelles with goats to be a mighty big stretch). My question is why these symbols are being used. Gaga, for all her faults, is not dumb: I sincerely doubt that she was unaware of the symbolism in the vid or in some of her more bizarre outfits recently.

She's trying to communicate something. The question is what, exactly? The problem with symbolism, no matter how explicit, is that it's still open to interpretation. And in the absence of any clear statements, such interpretations are wide-ranging. Personally, I honestly believe that her main intent was to generate buzz through provocative imagery, not any attempt to prosthetize Satanism. I'm glad you agree with me on that.
 

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Oh I agree. I highly doubt she's leading youth to Satan. That's so blasé these days; something kids' parents did.

While I agree the occult symbolism is blatant, I disagree with the conclusions drawn by that blog. There is a great deal more to occult religions and spiritual practices than the blogger understands.

As far as the Bad Romance video is concerned, I see it as a continuation of a theme she's presenting on the dual nature of fame. I don't see the isolation chamber labeled, Monster, as anti-Christian in the least. The symbol on it is more a sword than a cross. The sword, in occult symbolism, represents mental power. It is reason and, therefore, control. Western occult tradition uses the sword in ritual ceremonies as a representation of the power of the mind to cut through what is occult (literally hidden), to discover the truth of revelation. It is the power of our mental faculties, those of reason, which allow us to control occult forces.

The bat is a dual symbol. It does have a connection with vampires and evil but its much older association is that of resurrection. Bats live in caves (vaginas), emerge at night (born in the death of night), return at day (die temporarily), and emerge again (resurrection) to feed. They are, in pagan and other cultures, symbols of good fortune.

The bath and the drink of vodka seem to me to be symbols of rebirth. At first resisting, then submitting, Lady Gaga is transformed into the fame whore but, in fact, she is not completely transformed. The burning bed and the immolation of the john show that Gaga is in control of her faculties. Her john burns while she remains untouched by the flames she apparently generated. Fire is a very ancient symbol of purification; one used by various religions to purify and, in the case of Catholicism, to allegedly purify heretics by burning them alive.

Whether or not the trophies represent the Devil or not, I don't know but it is possible. Note that in western esoterica, the Devil is not Satan. Baphomet is not Satan (despite what that blogger says). Instead, in western esoterica, the Devil represents our vices and self-destructive tendencies. There is no external deity or angel or anything else. There are just our inner demons which we construct and are slave to at our own will. If the Devil has hold over us, it's because we allow it to do so. What can destroy the Devil? The sword. The strength of our own mind, our own character, is what can defeat and destroy the Devil (or Devils) within us. We slay our own Devils with our own swords once we discover we have the means and the strength to do so. Our enslavement is, in western occult practice, entirely of our own free will. It seems to me that Lady Gaga is saying that she chooses this particular Devil, very aware that she is voluntary enslaved to it. She also seems to say that her self-awareness allows her to control the fame Devil (or as she says, monster).
 
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