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Where do you get the right to enter a culture you are new to, take exception to what's going on and has been going on before you arrived, and begin telling those who were here when you came in how they should behave?

Enter a culture I'm new to? I've been here for two years. I get the in-jokes. I know who likes who. I've met plenty of people here in real life. I'm not 'new' by any stretch of the imagination.

Far from what Cath implies, these aren't jokes. They aren't subtle nudges in the side. They're exactly what they look like at face value. "Fuck off" is the easiest, and shortest example, which is why I refer to it often, but its not limited to a particular person and a particular phrase.
 

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Enter a culture I'm new to? I've been here for two years. I get the in-jokes. I know who likes who. I've met plenty of people here in real life. I'm not 'new' by any stretch of the imagination.

Far from what Cath implies, these aren't jokes. They aren't subtle nudges in the side. They're exactly what they look like at face value. "Fuck off" is the easiest, and shortest example, which is why I refer to it often, but its not limited to a particular person and a particular phrase.
You have not addressed my question, so I will ask it again, and ask you to stop wiggling:

What gives you the right to dictate how people should behave around here?
 

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You have not addressed my question, so I will ask it again, and ask you to stop wiggling:

What gives you the right to dictate how people should behave around here?

Who's dictating anything? Harassment is against the ToS. These are rules that everyone are bound by, although enforcement seems to be markedly skewed.

To flip the question: What gives you the right to harass individuals and bully them at will?
 

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Who's dictating anything? Harassment is against the ToS. These are rules that everyone are bound by, although enforcement seems to be markedly skewed.

To flip the question: What gives you the right to harass individuals and bully them at will?

You don't like it, follow procedure and report it. Otherwise, Beat feet.

Jesus Motherfucking Jerusalem Christ in a Goddam SIDECAR! Is it that HARD?
 

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Who's dictating anything? Harassment is against the ToS. These are rules that everyone are bound by, although enforcement seems to be markedly skewed.

To flip the question: What gives you the right to harass individuals and bully them at will?
I was pretty sure you wouldn't answer my simple question, and you haven't.

My answer to you is this. I'm doing neither. There are no threats in what I'm saying to you, other than the ones you perceive in your own twisted mind. Harassment is unwanted contact. Let me clue you in: this is not a private conversation. I am allowed to participate in it, by virtue of the fact that you have chosen to post your opinions here. If I were sending you unwanted PMs, something I would NEVER do, you might have a leg to stand on. But you cannot have a private conversation in a public forum, so your facile labels and attempts to convert the majority to your own will simply fail.

If you don't want to see what I'm typing, put me on ignore.

Now, I ask you again, What gives you the right to tell me or anybody else how we should behave?

Can you answer it, or are you going to continue to prove yourself the spineless control freak I believe you to be?
 

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I imagine behaving that way could be perceived as quite antagonistic and would more than likely get peeps backs up. Just a hunch.


wise words, reds_rule. Those who are unaccustomed to Hickboy's pioneering efforts to redeem that fine Anglo-Saxon term, 'fuck', so that it is no longer considered an insult but a compliment, may be confused and put him on 'ignore'!
 

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I was pretty sure you wouldn't answer my simple question, and you haven't.

My answer to you is this. I'm doing neither. There are no threats in what I'm saying to you, other than the ones you perceive in your own twisted mind. Harassment is unwanted contact. Let me clue you in: this is not a private conversation. I am allowed to participate in it, by virtue of the fact that you have chosen to post your opinions here. If I were sending you unwanted PMs, something I would NEVER do, you might have a leg to stand on. But you cannot have a private conversation in a public forum, so your facile labels and attempts to convert the majority to your own will simply fail.

If you don't want to see what I'm typing, put me on ignore.

Now, I ask you again, What gives you the right to tell me or anybody else how we should behave?

Can you answer it, or are you going to continue to prove yourself the spineless control freak I believe you to be?

You continually attempt to define harassment in a particular way so as to avoid being touched by it. You'll notice the post you responded to in this 'second' wind didn't reference you at all. I simply pointed out the difference between disagreeing with someone and being verbally abusive towards them.

Yes, I get that reporting is helpful. No, I don't think that reporting is the only thing which needs to be done. If you look in the moderators actions thread, Quiet_man's ban is not recorded. Posts (of mine and others) have been deleted from this thread as well. There's a very palpable sense that the moderators' actions might not be as clean as they admit to.

MoT's post in the thread dismissed the issue to playful jabbing; that's clearly not the case anymore. Your last line, that I'm a 'spineless control freak' isn't a playful jab (and its also odd, because going against the grain so persistently would imply a rather strong spine). Its just plain verbal abuse. Later you follow that up with the derogatory implication that I'm here just to aggrandize myself, this after indicating that:

-I'm new here
-I don't care about the site
-I'm a cunt
-I'm a control freak
-Etc. There's a lot more.

None of these are disagreements. They're attacks against me. They're not playful jabs, they're an attempt to discredit me as a source of argument.

Note that these 'jabs' aren't reciprocated. I don't think you're 'the problem'. I think there's something larger than you which sets the tone here. I think dancing around happily when someone has been driven to an angry outburst is a sign that maybe there's more of a predatory culture in here than the first few posts would like to admit.

This isn't an attempt to control what you say. Feel free to say whatever you want to. I've said this multiple times.
 

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You continually attempt to define harassment in a particular way so as to avoid being touched by it. You'll notice the post you responded to in this 'second' wind didn't reference you at all. I simply pointed out the difference between disagreeing with someone and being verbally abusive towards them.

Yes, I get that reporting is helpful. No, I don't think that reporting is the only thing which needs to be done. If you look in the moderators actions thread, Quiet_man's ban is not recorded. Posts (of mine and others) have been deleted from this thread as well. There's a very palpable sense that the moderators' actions might not be as clean as they admit to.

MoT's post in the thread dismissed the issue to playful jabbing; that's clearly not the case anymore. Your last line, that I'm a 'spineless control freak' isn't a playful jab (and its also odd, because going against the grain so persistently would imply a rather strong spine). Its just plain verbal abuse. Later you follow that up with the derogatory implication that I'm here just to aggrandize myself, this after indicating that:

-I'm new here
-I don't care about the site
-I'm a cunt
-I'm a control freak
-Etc. There's a lot more.

None of these are disagreements. They're attacks against me. They're not playful jabs, they're an attempt to discredit me as a source of argument.

Note that these 'jabs' aren't reciprocated. I don't think you're 'the problem'. I think there's something larger than you which sets the tone here. I think dancing around happily when someone has been driven to an angry outburst is a sign that maybe there's more of a predatory culture in here than the first few posts would like to admit.

This isn't an attempt to control what you say. Feel free to say whatever you want to. I've said this multiple times.

Wiggle wiggle wiggle... Spineless means you haven't answered the question that indicts you, control freak means you want to tell others how to behave.

Please stop equivocating. You have made blanket statements about what others should do, and how they should conduct themselves. It's one thing to say "I don't like it, please do that." It's another entirely to say that "Behaviour XXX is YYY. You shouldn't do that." If you deny using those words, I will go back and copy posts where you did, and paste them into my next reply to this thread.

I am asking you again: What gives you the right to tell other people how they should conduct themselves in this forum?
 
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Wiggle wiggle wiggle... Spineless means you haven't answered the question that indicts you, control freak means you want to tell others how to behave.

Please stop equivocating. You have made blanket statements about what others should do, and how they should conduct themselves. It's one thing to say "I don't like it, please do that." It's another entirely to say that "Behaviour XXX is YYY. You shouldn't do that." If you deny using those words, I will go back and copy posts where you did, and paste them into my next reply to this thread.

I am asking you again: What gives you the right to tell other people how they should conduct themselves in this forum?

Commentary on how to maintain civil discussion doesn't equate to control over statements. You're the one making the false equivalence. Pointing out how people can say the same thing without abuse doesn't imply that I'm controlling the content of statements. The comparisons simply help to demarcate the difference between disagreement and harassment.

As for my right to 'tell' people things, I'm pretty sure that if statements aren't against the ToS, they're allowed to go through. Would you say that my suggestion that people say "This is wrong" instead of "Go fuck yourself" is in and of itself harassment?
 

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Commentary on how to maintain civil discussion doesn't equate to control over statements. You're the one making the false equivalence. Pointing out how people can say the same thing without abuse doesn't imply that I'm controlling the content of statements. The comparisons simply help to demarcate the difference between disagreement and harassment.

As for my right to 'tell' people things, I'm pretty sure that if statements aren't against the ToS, they're allowed to go through. Would you say that my suggestion that people say "This is wrong" instead of "Go fuck yourself" is in and of itself harassment?
So you have to right to tell other people what to do?

Your evasive skills are lacking, no matter what your will demands you do.
 

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But you cannot have a private conversation in a public forum, so your facile labels and attempts to convert the majority to your own will simply fail.
Yes, you can. You can always choose people you will reply to. It won`t be PRIVATE in a literate way, but it comes close to that;)