Geez, TJ, how'd I come into this?
u do manage to sniff out EVERY post that contains anything about nick8 in it.......
i was timing you to see how long it would take for you to find my bait-post.
LPSG Friendships gone wrong.
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u do manage to sniff out EVERY post that contains anything about nick8 in it.......
i was timing you to see how long it would take for you to find my bait-post.
come on OY, u know me better than that.
nick8 knows it wasn't a slur,
we're like tiger cubs playing...it was a love bite.
you and I are in total agreement on tardis69 though, he totally makes my crank hard.
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Actually, much as you're embracing the facade of being a caring and concerned friend, you're actually being very hypocritical and sanctimonious in your approach. If you weren't, you wouldn't see any need to be disgusted by your friend. What qualifies you to look upon him with disgust? Most especially if you are able to identify that his behavior is brought on by issues that he is experiencing within himself? All in all, as someone looking on, I'd say that this is a classic case of transference and you may want to take a step back and re-evaluate the conclusions that you have drawn...and I am making you aware of that so that you may become aware of your own behavior and approach because you may have underlying issues of your own that may contributed to situation that you are now faced with.
Once again, you may want to ask yourself, "how much of my own behavior and attitudes have I projected upon my friend?" Ultimately, if you were sincere about your concern for him and have no intention to hurt him...because of your love for him, then for a start, you wouldn't have this kind of approach towards him, let alone see the need to publicly humiliate him. "love seeks out the best of and for the other, for the sake of the other" and if your approach truly reflected the precepts taught by Jesus, you would be aware that, "when someone deserves your love the least, it's when they need it the most".
And if you'd like to challenge what I'm saying, by all means....but you may want to look at this post along with your second one, because they speak for themselves... Ultimately, your behavior has led to your friend walking away smelling like roses more than you have so you may want to revisit using this kind of approach during fallouts because it leads to you losing credibility (at your own hand) in the process.
- It's preceeded by Jesus' discourse on the beatitudes and woes (Lk 6: 17-26; and much as it's referred to as "The Sermon on the Mount", it's in actual fact, "The Sermon on the Plain" (cf Lk 6: 17). The beatitudes contain complete opposites in every single one of them eg: "Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you will be filled" (Lk 6: 21) because there's the intention for it to create confusion; for the "listener" to walk away feeling confused and thus compelled to mull over the text ie it's a passage about self examination, most especially, a self examination of our state of internal being. The woes also contain complete opposites and for the very same reason, but they challenge our state of external being and once again is a call for self examination.
- The text is proceeded by Jesus' discourse on judging others (Lk 6: 37-42) and he pays particular attention to the issues of judging, condemning and being hypocritical.
These two passages set the stage for Lk 6: 27-36 where we find a discourse that speaks of redemptive love. ie, this text is sandwiched between two passages that tell us what NOT to do, in order to fully understand what we ought to do and to have the compulsion to do it.
Now that I've set the stage, let's examine the verse that you opted to use:
"If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also" (Lk 6: 29a)
However, it's interesting because we find Jesus doing the complete opposite of that: "If I said something wrong," Jesus replied, "testify as to what is wrong. But if I spoke the truth, why did you strike me?" (Jn 18: 23) Clearly there's a misinterpretation of what's meant by "turning the other cheek", so what then, does it mean?
Well for a start, it certainly doesn't speak about pacifism...if anything, it's a message of challenge and how to go about challenging those who ill treat us. On a scholarly level, this passage is presented by an ancient near-eastern peasant speaking mainly to other ancient near-eastern peasants. We therefore need to know something about their way of speaking; their typical use of language. If we do so, we'll find that they were prone to the use of strong language, bold metaphors and dramatic exaggeration for effect. In other words, on an intellectual level, the immediate reaction from the audience would be something along the lines of "WHAT?!!! You expect me to allow the person to walk all over me?!! NO FRIKKING WAY!!!!"
But let's look at things practically: The use of force normally takes place in order to intimidate the person into obedience etc. So visualise a scenario where someone comes up to and strikes you. You don't flinch and you don't flip out or lash back, instead, you look the person square in the eye and turn the other cheek. Now put yourself in the other person's shoes....would you REALLY want to strike the person a second time? Have you succeeded to intimidate that person? Would the turning of the other cheek be a sign of pacifism or would it be a challenge? "I DARE you to strike me again".
Ultimately, it's a lesson in how to challenge others; to do so without spite, vengeance and above all else, to be critical about the action and not the person. Now bear this in mind when we look at Jn 18: 23:
"But if I spoke the truth, why did you strike me?"
The action is being criticised and challenge at the same time. We are given a standard on how to challenge others and their approach towards us. Asking the person "WHY" they opted to do something is a big enough challenge on it's own. However the layout of all three passages remind us that we need to examine our behavior more than our examination of the behavior of others.
Be well....and please don't butcher the text any more? :smile:
Be well....and please don't butcher the text any more? :smile:
No one has asked for your opinion.
Ego, Cowardliness and Judging people is the topic I was talking about, the friend thing was just an example I gave to bring the picture closer to your mind.
Others put me under pressure and asked me for the name of this friend so this why it sounded more like a private matter, They were eager to know his name more than the butter of this topic, they didn't grasp the moral of this story, that includes you, sir, gentleman.....
Mind your own business please.
Some time I feel that I am addressing the walls, not humans.
No you didn't just take us to church!
i dunno about u, but i feel blessed by our heavenly father.
my own dad gave me some good stuff too...lol
You post something here, you'll get opinions. If you don't want any responses, then keep it private, otherwise, take what you get.
If your going to quote scripture here's one for you. I'm sure this will stir up all kinds of comments but I don't care. Also make sure you don't have a plank sticking out of your own eye when publicly talking about others.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
You are in the habit of getting the most posts in LPSG, Surely Babbling is one of your attributes Nick (OMG I am judging on somebody, and surely biguy2738 has something to say), Come again?
God is an animal and a barber according to the Bible.
Please, I beg of you to stop. You're making me laugh and I am trying to eat and the food keeps hurtling across the room. Are you and Eleve-Inch-Breeder in cahoots with each other?
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I'm sorry but you cannot really expect the Mods to close a thread simply because you start a discussion and it does not go the way you thought it would.
I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that you are posting this as an anti-homosexual text in the Bible? Fortunately, the original Greek translation says nothing about homosexuality. This passage is speaking about exploitive forms of sex between an older man and a younger boy outside of his family and cannot be used in arguments against committed same-sex relationships. They are two completely different contexts. If you are going to throw scripture like this out, make sure you know what the original text says...not the English translation please. Thanks.
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Fine, leave it open and unlocked, let us settle down and talk for the next days on some non-sense.
Refer to Deuteronomy: 23:2
