Yes, breast implants are flippin' ridiculous. Why any woman wouldn't love their small breasts is beyond me. Breast implants pose major health concerns and are dangerous. Besides Mister Mark, I believe that there are no silicone injectors on this site. That is serious body modification! I am just sensitive to the "size that you were born with" thing. I pump, and the women I have been with absolutely drool with zeal at the size of my cock, I don't lie, I tell them. None of them were ever turned off. I think that the type of people that pump are the shy reclusive types. They are not usually running around having heterosexual sex with women. A lot of them are gay. Most women have absolutely no experience with men who vacuum pump, it is just not that common. Does everyone feel that health clubs or gyms are centers of "body modification"? Most people go to the gym for reasons of vanity, to make their arms bigger or thighs smaller. It takes a lot of dedication in the gym for someone to produce a beautiful physique. Stand a person that created his body through natural methods and hard work next to someone that was born with a beautiful body. Is there any difference, if anything society values the hard work and effort of the "self made man" in higher value then the "man of creation" who was just BORN THE WAY THEY WERE. So, shouldn't that translate to the concept of natural penile enlargement? Pumping for permanent gains requires years of hard work and dedication, something most men can't or aren't willing to do. Most pumpers aren't very serious and don't get serious results. Breasts are for milk production and play a very minor role in sexual relations between a man and a woman. They are not necessary for the "deed"! If anything, penile enlargement can have a biological use. It makes the penis larger, allowing for deeper penetration and more sexual stimulation for the female. This can have an effect on the sperms chances of reaching the egg. Increased girth allows for stimulation of the clitoris by pulling on the hood, increasing the chances for a female orgasm. A woman having an orgasm is more likely to get pregnant than one who doesn't. I know that's a stretch to corrolate PE with fertility, but I just wanted to say, not to hate on the pumpers. Pumping is not expensive, and is available to EVERY MAN if they so choose. It also is very safe. Surgical augmentation is very expensive and NOT SAFE! Huge difference, I hope I didn't irritate anyone with this post, just trying to shed some light on the "natural" vs. the "unnatural"