SilverTrain
Legendary Member
That's not twisting his words at all.![]()
No. It's not.
He's the one who complained about wealthy people's money being seized and given to illegal aliens.
That's not twisting his words at all.![]()
As seen I have responded to a number of posts. Let me add that I enjoy this site. It's great!
Now please allow me to give you some perspective from a socially liberal but fiscally conservative Republican, Tea Partier, etc.
You may not realize it but I am a friend to gay people. While I am heterosexual I fully support the rights of gay people. In a nutshell, I think gay people should be able to do anything that straight people can do including but not limited to marriage and adoption.
You may also not realize that straight, Republicans like myself, whom some of you seem to despise, are your allies in your fight for equality and fair treatment. Some of you seem consumed with hatred against some of us. I will encourage you to recognize that there are plenty of Republicans that have no issue with gay people.
Some of you also claim the Tea Party to be racist and discriminatory. That claim is untrue. I'll keep an open mind in case someone wants to provide examples of how this nationwide movement is, at the core, racist.
The Tea Party is about bringing fiscal responsibility to the federal government...pure and simple. It's not for or against gay rights, abortion, medical marijuana, foreign ventures, education, obesity, etc. It's about fiscal responsibility. Individual candidates will have a myriad of opinions on the afore-mentioned topics but one thing they will all agree on is that fiscal responsibility must be brought to Washington. Without it everything can be lost. It is the paramount issue in the USA.
Hi. Lifelong conservative, here. Let me try to correct a few of the misconceptions I've seen in this thread.
1) Democrat/Republican and Liberal/Conservative are not the same thing. There is a general correlation, but it's not a 1:1 relationship. I am conservative. I often (but not always) vote Republican.
2) Despite the bad press, the TEA Party (stands for Taxed Enough, Already) stands for limited government involvement in our lives, a reduced size and power of the federal government, and obviously a related reduction in the individual tax burden. The name harkens back to the original Boston Tea Party, which had as its slogan "no taxation without representation." A remarkably similar premise. Their goals are clearly and specifically enumerated, the participants are almost universally polite and well mannered, and the rallies are a positive reflection on their cause.
Those goals are consistent with our founding documents, and the way our government is "supposed" to work. And yes, I support those goals.
3) Gay rights are, essentially, just rights. It's wrong to discriminate against people...gay people included! Those who oppose "gay rights," usually oppose them on philosophical grounds, but are subjected to accusations of bigotry. It's not bigotry...it's logic! It's analogous to black rights, women's rights, etc...they're the same rights, but restated and reaffirmed for each minority group. Kinda' ridiculous when you view it through that prism.
Some of us are smart enough to realize this fact, and are resisting the current trend to break up the "American melting pot" into increasingly disparate groups of sub-categories.
It's easier to explain using a different example, though. Truism: Murder is wrong. Is a white man murdering a black man *more* wrong? No? Then why does "hate crime" legislation try to say that it is?
4) There are those of us who are not gay, who fully support full equality for gays (and all sexual minorities)...but that doesn't mean taking a specially enumerated "reverse discrimination" approach. And that's where a lot of the gay rights discussions invariably end up.
5) What does the size of my endowment have to do with my political views? Republicans (or conservatives) are not sexually repressed prudes...and even if we were, where else would one come for advice on underwear for big guys?
Heck, I found this site with a google search about "my balls fall out of my underwear," or something similar.
Most of us just don't have the desire to flaunt it in your face, like a circus side show.
Nearly half of Americans pay zero federal income tax and many of those collect entitlements from the provider class. There are millions more here illegally that are also collecting benefits. What do you believe is just? Do you favor seizing all the wealth from the so-called "1%" and redistributing it to the poor and those here illegally? Do you believe those that have worked hard and smart to become wealthy should have the fruits of their labors seized and given to someone else? I'm just trying to understand your rationale if, that is, you care to explain it. Thank you.
I dont think they are. Best I can gather both main british political parties are in some way left of democrats. As such, they would say they are centre left and centre right parties. The UK seems to have some fundamental differences to the US with regard to what is the unquestioned role of government. Republicans seem rather Stalinist, from here. UK political parties do not seem to tolerate extremists coming under their banner in the way US ones do.The Republican party are like the Cons in the UK, they talk nonsense (see Fox News) and they're totally unelectable.
Nearly half of Americans pay zero federal income tax and many of those collect entitlements from the provider class. There are millions more here illegally that are also collecting benefits. What do you believe is just? Do you favor seizing all the wealth from the so-called "1%" and redistributing it to the poor and those her illegally? Do you believe those that have worked hard and smart to become wealthy should have the fruits of their labors seized and given to someone else? I'm just trying to understand your rationale if, that is, you care to explain it. Thank you.
How do you explain GOPROUD or Log cabin Republicans? I for one think GOPROUD is something the Koch Brothers invented and pay for but that's another story.
No. It's not.
He's the one who complained about wealthy people's money being seized and given to illegal aliens.
Nearly half of Americans pay zero federal income tax ...