machines vs. men

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  1. Kevbo

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    I know a lot of women do not (or perhaps cannot) achieve orgasm through regular PIV(*) intercourse unless their clits are stimulated as well. Does this situation change if the penis is a vibrator or more exotic toy such as a Sybian or Rabbit? Does vibration/rotation at rates unachievable by human males make climax possible for some women, without clit stimulation needed?

    In a related vein, is there value-added when a machine is used that will relentlessly (and without emotion) push a woman right past her limits?

    (Anyone who browses the Adult Website forum may've seen my post on Sybians -- in some of those vids, the women have to pull themselves off their toys and just lie there, exhausted and sated and very very happy.)

    Thanks,
    Kev

    (*) PIV = penis in vagina; there's always someone who hasn't seen the acronym :smile:
     
  2. ManlyBanisters

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    I'm the other way around - I won't say 'never' but it is extremely rare that I can acheive a vaginal orgasm with just a toy and no clit stimulation, whereas I cum quite easily when my man fucks me.

    I've never used a Sybian, though I'd like to :biggrin:, and understand they are quite different. The Rabbit doesn't quite fit your question because it does clit stim and vaginal (and anal, depending on the model) at the same time.
     
  3. Ldnn

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    Why not bring a vibe into the bedroom aswell?

    A couple of women I've been with said their former partners saw it as a 'rival' in the bedroom instead of just way of pleasuring her (which made it difficult for her to enjoy herself in front of him while using it); whereas I'd rather I saw my woman writhe in pleasure even if she wanted to use toys to feel like that.

    I don't see it as "vs." I think you'd get the best fun for all concerned if you think of it as "&" :)
     
  4. Kevbo

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    Didn't mean to imply a "vs." -- certainly there are no "either/or" rules here -- I was just wondering if technology was able to achieve something that carbon-based life-forms could not :smile:. If there is any "vs." to be considered here, it might be that some women's clits seem to become a bit desensitized to "normal" touch after using a vibrator regularly. I'm not sure that would be true of women here, but there was a website for a while that was devoted to breaking women of the vibrator habit. (I just went looking for it -- I think it was simply called "TheClit" -- and I couldn't find it.)

    Kev
     
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    Kevbo, a rabbit gives me a type of orgasm I cannot have with a penis. I have gotten this type of orgasm with a partner's finger's, but when I am home alone (which is often since my boyfriend is a Coastie) only a rabbit can scratch that particular itch. Well, sometimes a g-spot vibrator can do something similar for me, but they tend to be either too firm, or too soft, and also not always the right angle. I am the rabbit destroyer. I go through rabbits like some people go through lovers. I guess that isn't relevant though.
     
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    you cant cuddle up to a machine or get out and have fun!!!!
     
  7. Kevbo

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    Thanks for the feedback -- it reminds me of the Loveline (MTV call-in show) episode where a young woman called in and was wondering if she was grinding her vibrators out :tongue:. What makes the Rabbit special? Is it that it attends to multiple spots at once?

    Cheers,
    Kevbo
     
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    That does not address the question: "Does vibration/rotation at rates unachievable by human males make climax possible for some women, without clit stimulation needed?" Who cares if I can cuddle the toys, or take them out for fun? No one asked if one was better than the other. The question asks to what extent the two are different. And believe me: just as no toy would make me stop wanting my man, no man could make me stop wanting my toys. EVER.

    She might have been! I squeeze and squeeze as I get closer to climax, and eventually they short out, overheat, refuse to rotate, or snap! I am the rabbit killer, unfortunately. I have two on order right now, so help is on the way! LOL

    The rabbit is special because the rotation means that a sensitive spot I have on the posterior wall of my vagina, and my g-spot both get stimulated in such rapid succession as to make it feel simultaneous. This sensation is mind-blowing, and can't easily be duplicated by any human means. This combined with the clitoral stimulation from the rabbit ears is other-worldly. Frequently, however, when I want to make it last a little longer, or I want a more intense orgasm, I shut off the rabbit ears, and forgo the clitoral stimulation. These orgasms I can feel washing over my whole body. A few times I have used this with a lover, and he has made me use the rabbit ears immediately after which is extremely overwhelming, but in a good way.
     
  9. Kevbo

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    Thanks for understanding what I was asking and getting the thread back on track.:rolleyes:



    And this is exactly what I was expecting to hear from somebody -- thanks so much (again) for understanding what I was asking and directly describing what the differences are. And you also make the good point that this doesn't exclude men from the equation -- we are not being mechanically cuckolded :wink:. It's merely a matter of improved technology in one facet of sexual activity.

    It's interesting how careful one has to be sometimes with the smallest of phrases. By putting "vs." in the title, I may have made this look more adversarial than intended. I was going for brevity... :biggrin1:

    Cheers,
    Kevbo
     
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    i'm not ashamed to admit... a machine would probably get her off more and better than i could. heh
     
  11. AlteredEgo

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    Welcome to the LPSG! Please read more than just the thread titles. kevbo said half an hour ago that he never meant to make it a competition between men and toys, (he said it a few days ago too). The question is really asking what exactly the difference is.

    No worries!

    I think that is a real fear for many men: mechanical cuckolding. I remember the first time I demonstrated a rabbit for my current boyfriend. He said, "Wow. Men are obsolete!" He was also worried that if my vagina could break them, it could hurt his penis. That's not the case, by the way. The contractions that destroy toys do so because I force the toys (with my hands) to resist the contractions. A penis just gets forced out painlessly and has to be re-inserted.

    It's hard to communicate when text is the sole medium.
     
  12. Kevbo

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    Nonsense. You clearly have the equipment. If something ain't aright with your relationship(s?), a bit of practice (physically and emotionally) should pay huge dividends.

    And, as has been pointed out, a machine could make a good teammate, not competitor, in the bedroom :wink:.

    Kev
     
  13. Kevbo

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    Unless her ladyship locks those legs in place across the gentleman's back (seems to be a reflex :rolleyes:), in which case the gentleman may not be able to escape. At that point, the gentleman usually doesn't want to, but the difference may be that the penis also has some "give" to it, compared to a hard toy. So one of those "crushing handshakes" you extend to your Rabbits may be absorbed better by the lucky penis visiting your wonderland :wink:.


    Agreed. Perhaps you could demonstrate your Rabbit-breaking in video? (j/k -- I note that we've both been on here a while now and neither one of us has much of a profile filled out -- which I think should be respected since anonymity can be done in levels.)
     
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    Rabbits are not hard generally. They are pretty squishy.
     
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    I've heard from every woman I've been with that a toy is no substitute for the real thing, then again look where we are talking. I'm not sure if the same is true for all or most, or just those who are hung.

    My gf was shy with the vibes because all her exes were too intimidated and had issues with them; usually resorted to calling her a whore for having them, as well as pornography. She was quite surprised when I not only condoned their use, but actually bought her a few pretty nice toys.

    Now, all is well, and the only time she is called a whore is while I'm fucking her, which is followed up by an "I love you" after we are done, which apparently makes me a misogynist and bad person according to Mdme Rouge.
     
  16. B_Mr. Davis

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    HI all.

    Don t laugh at me. My girlfriend and I are using toys for years now ( vibrator and dildos ) and having a lot of fun.

    But what is a rabbit??? Never heard of that b4.

    anyone has a link or something so I can see what u re all talking about?

    Many thanks
     
  17. Kevbo

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    Try YouPorn.com Lite (BETA) - Porn. Note the "ears" which bracket the clit and, according to reports :smile:, do wonderful things there.

    Hopefully it is obvious, even from this short clip, that the Rabbit can be "reversed" so that the shaft goes in the pussy, which doubles (or perhaps quadruples?) the wonderfulness...

    Kev
     
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    I agree Marlboro. Nothing wrong with supplementing your sex life with a few (or many lol) toys. Our newest is a beautiful rawhide flogger. Too hardcore for me, but she loves the way it feels.
     
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