Madison Cawthorn (politician)

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Hi all, I know, I’m very late to the party, but had to fix shit and took some days to think about our homeboys’ situation. This will be kinda long, but trust me it’s worth a read. First, the way Politico portrays him reminds me a lot of the type of straight guys I befriended in university: athletic, attention whores, ego-driven, uncaring, and hopeful, but also ambitious (life-wise rather than school), self-aware (to an extent), modest and the sort of person who takes few things seriously; they want to be friends with us, but with no one else knowing and using us as toys to figure themselves out. I think this quote by Jasmine Beach-Ferrara really puts it well together:
“Based sort of on my background as a minister, largely I see him as a young man who has been through a very traumatic, life-changing event and who has been politically radicalised by the far right, in a way where he also gains access to significant power and resources, and who’s now deploying that influence in very dangerous ways”
Let me put it in perspective. Men like Madison approached us gays in college because they were curious to an extent, but also saw something different in us that their previous male friends didn’t give them when growing up: a space to be vulnerable. Maybe some of you know what I’m talking about, but just in case, a small example: you meet a guy in class who comes to you because he needs help with his notes, talk for a while, become friends very slowly over the weeks, talk between yourselves in private while he’s with his pals and you on your own/with your friends, he opens up bit by bit and that’s when you get feelings for him but he only sees you as a friend. I saw this part of him mostly in his text messages with Brad Ledford (who he had the accident with). I have wondered for a bit who he could’ve become if he had gone to a big university and made friends with one of us. He became conflicted with his masculinity after the accident, and instead of processing it, he doubled-down on the asshole aspect of manliness. This doesn’t excuse his behaviour towards the women he harassed in his car, I’m just trying to connect points and explain the “why”. As a friend of mine said, he managed to enlighten a group of conservative women enough for them to discover feminism.

I could write so much more about Madison, but if there’s something I learned in my post-read clarity, is that Christian fanaticism, toxic masculinity and gender norms shouldn’t be imposed in people, as it breaks them like it did Madison and other men who know no escape out of the closet (coughlidnsaygrahamcough). I truly hope we don’t have to deal with another Schock queen; all he needs is just a quiet, happy life in a city with not-his-boyfriend (maybe one of you guys!) and to do whatever makes him happy (can college jocks find jobs outside of sport? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).

Ok I’m finished I swear. Now, GIVE US DICK MADISON plz!!
 

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Hi all, I know, I’m very late to the party, but had to fix shit and took some days to think about our homeboys’ situation. This will be kinda long, but trust me it’s worth a read. First, the way Politico portrays him reminds me a lot of the type of straight guys I befriended in university: athletic, attention whores, ego-driven, uncaring, and hopeful, but also ambitious (life-wise rather than school), self-aware (to an extent), modest and the sort of person who takes few things seriously; they want to be friends with us, but with no one else knowing and using us as toys to figure themselves out. I think this quote by Jasmine Beach-Ferrara really puts it well together:

Let me put it in perspective. Men like Madison approached us gays in college because they were curious to an extent, but also saw something different in us that their previous male friends didn’t give them when growing up: a space to be vulnerable. Maybe some of you know what I’m talking about, but just in case, a small example: you meet a guy in class who comes to you because he needs help with his notes, talk for a while, become friends very slowly over the weeks, talk between yourselves in private while he’s with his pals and you on your own/with your friends, he opens up bit by bit and that’s when you get feelings for him but he only sees you as a friend. I saw this part of him mostly in his text messages with Brad Ledford (who he had the accident with). I have wondered for a bit who he could’ve become if he had gone to a big university and made friends with one of us. He became conflicted with his masculinity after the accident, and instead of processing it, he doubled-down on the asshole aspect of manliness. This doesn’t excuse his behaviour towards the women he harassed in his car, I’m just trying to connect points and explain the “why”. As a friend of mine said, he managed to enlighten a group of conservative women enough for them to discover feminism.

I could write so much more about Madison, but if there’s something I learned in my post-read clarity, is that Christian fanaticism, toxic masculinity and gender norms shouldn’t be imposed in people, as it breaks them like it did Madison and other men who know no escape out of the closet (coughlidnsaygrahamcough). I truly hope we don’t have to deal with another Schock queen; all he needs is just a quiet, happy life in a city with not-his-boyfriend (maybe one of you guys!) and to do whatever makes him happy (can college jocks find jobs outside of sport? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).

Ok I’m finished I swear. Now, GIVE US DICK MADISON plz!!
This is a very interesting and thought-provoking point. Btw, where did you see his text messages with Brad Ledford?
 
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This is a very interesting and thought-provoking point. Btw, where did you see his text messages with Brad Ledford?
Thank you very much for the feedback, much appreciated. I didn’t see screenshots, but they were mentioned in the POLITICO article
 

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Guys, just a reminder. This is to talk about Madison’s body and life- NOT his politics. I don’t care how you feel about his politics or those of the GOP and neither does LPSG. If you disparage Republicans or go on a political rant your post will be deleted and you may be banned. I’ve seen ALOT of hate here against conservatives and republicans and it needs to stop. Thanks.
 

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Hi all, I know, I’m very late to the party, but had to fix shit and took some days to think about our homeboys’ situation. This will be kinda long, but trust me it’s worth a read. First, the way Politico portrays him reminds me a lot of the type of straight guys I befriended in university: athletic, attention whores, ego-driven, uncaring, and hopeful, but also ambitious (life-wise rather than school), self-aware (to an extent), modest and the sort of person who takes few things seriously; they want to be friends with us, but with no one else knowing and using us as toys to figure themselves out. I think this quote by Jasmine Beach-Ferrara really puts it well together:

Let me put it in perspective. Men like Madison approached us gays in college because they were curious to an extent, but also saw something different in us that their previous male friends didn’t give them when growing up: a space to be vulnerable. Maybe some of you know what I’m talking about, but just in case, a small example: you meet a guy in class who comes to you because he needs help with his notes, talk for a while, become friends very slowly over the weeks, talk between yourselves in private while he’s with his pals and you on your own/with your friends, he opens up bit by bit and that’s when you get feelings for him but he only sees you as a friend. I saw this part of him mostly in his text messages with Brad Ledford (who he had the accident with). I have wondered for a bit who he could’ve become if he had gone to a big university and made friends with one of us. He became conflicted with his masculinity after the accident, and instead of processing it, he doubled-down on the asshole aspect of manliness. This doesn’t excuse his behaviour towards the women he harassed in his car, I’m just trying to connect points and explain the “why”. As a friend of mine said, he managed to enlighten a group of conservative women enough for them to discover feminism.

I could write so much more about Madison, but if there’s something I learned in my post-read clarity, is that Christian fanaticism, toxic masculinity and gender norms shouldn’t be imposed in people, as it breaks them like it did Madison and other men who know no escape out of the closet (coughlidnsaygrahamcough). I truly hope we don’t have to deal with another Schock queen; all he needs is just a quiet, happy life in a city with not-his-boyfriend (maybe one of you guys!) and to do whatever makes him happy (can college jocks find jobs outside of sport? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).

Ok I’m finished I swear. Now, GIVE US DICK MADISON plz!!


Does anyone have some popcorn?!?! In gonna need it to read this lol
 

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Guys, just a reminder. This is to talk about Madison’s body and life- NOT his politics. I don’t care how you feel about his politics or those of the GOP and neither does LPSG. If you disparage Republicans or go on a political rant your post will be deleted and you may be banned. I’ve seen ALOT of hate here against conservatives and republicans and it needs to stop. Thanks.
No one was talking about his politics specifically. This post was not needed
 
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Is our boy Madison getting a lot of media attention in New Zealand?
LoL not at all! I just read a lot of more American news because they’re my morning dose of drama. Nothing ever happens here, and so I fill my time with this latest season of America the TV show :joy:
 

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This is an interesting scenario, and the Politico piece is actually enlightening and thought-provoking (if not entirely unbiased).

I'm not saying Cawthorn is gay (or even bi) but I think that might explain much of his actions. (The mail-order bride, the focus on hyper-masculinity, the naked time with Stephen).

Dealing with repression and coming out can be hard at the best of times, but the accident, coupled with public life, AND a position in government must be unbearably difficult. (Especially since politics are SO corrosive now...)

That doesn't excuse or give a pass to his heinous policy stances, but that's outside the scope of this thread....

For his own sake, I hope he loses his seat and is able to retire and reflect, possibly with Steven (who clearly loves him quite alot.)
 
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This is an interesting scenario, and the Politico piece is actually enlightening and thought-provoking (if not entirely unbiased).

I'm not saying Cawthorn is gay (or even bi) but I think that might explain much of his actions. (The mail-order bride, the focus on hyper-masculinity, the naked time with Stephen).

Dealing with repression and coming out can be hard at the best of times, but the accident, coupled with public life, AND a position in government must be unbearably difficult. (Especially since politics are SO corrosive now...)

That doesn't excuse or give a pass to his heinous policy stances, but that's outside the scope of this thread....

For his own sake, I hope he loses his seat and is able to retire and reflect, possibly with Steven (who clearly loves him quite alot.)
Well put! Perhaps Steven knows something about Madison we don’t, but I will just sit and watch whatever happens next in this saga. I also think these situations end up hurting both parties emotionally (gay guys and straight dudes) with potential harmful consequences. Damn, I wish I could go back to University and study this stuff….
 
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LoL not at all! I just read a lot of more American news because they’re my morning dose of drama. Nothing ever happens here, and so I fill my time with this latest season of America the TV show :joy:
Since y’all are bored, I offer you a certain orange politician to spice things up. Sending him to New Zealand will be our gift from America. Kinda like when France gave America the Statue of Liberty.
 

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Since y’all are bored, I offer you a certain orange politician to spice things up. Sending him to New Zealand will be our gift from America. Kinda like when France gave America the Statue of Liberty.
BUAHAHAHAHA no thanks, i think the australians might want him instead!!