Madison Cawthorn (politician)

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Actually, maybe someone's grandparent's sibling's grandchild is a third cousin, not second. It's very confusing.
You start by finding the common ancestor:

Share parent -> siblings
Share grandparent -> first cousin
Share great-grandparent -> second cousin
Share great-great-grandparent -> third cousin

And then, the "removed" business is how many generations separate the two cousins who have the common ((great(-great)-)grand)partent.

So, for example, I and the grandson of my second cousin are second-cousins-twice-removed.

Where it really gets confusing is when there are double-cousins . . . sharing TWO ancestors.
 

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Just as it's well documented that men in prison often become situationally gay, so too can I imagine Madison dabbling in situational gayness in his current situation, where he's not exactly a prime catch for women due to his divorce and the harassment accusations (and the chair), but he's supported and elevated (literally and figuratively) by kind and fun Stephen, who would do absolutely anything for him, who's always there for Madison no matter what. In a set-up like that, you don't have to be born gay to do some kinda "gay stuff" that you can grudgingly agree feels good, is easy to do (no hassle-filled, desperate nights on the town), and makes Stephen happy. Maybe it's just letting Stephen give you a drunken handjob (even if it stays soft) that you don't discuss again; maybe it's full frottage; maybe it's cuddling; maybe it's just horseplay a half-stuff up from the hotel-room fake-humping, but longer and with Stephen noticeably hard.
And there are plenty of men who have an exclusive preference for females, but who also find gratification and enjoyment in knowing that they also give pleasure to males and arouse them. They enjoy teasing the fellows attracted to them . . . but I don't think they generally perceive their enjoyment as specifically sexual.
 

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And there are plenty of men who have an exclusive preference for females, but who also find gratification and enjoyment in knowing that they also give pleasure to males and arouse them. They enjoy teasing the fellows attracted to them . . . but I don't think they generally perceive their enjoyment as specifically sexual.
This comes to an area where people would disagree on the definition of sexuality. For example if given enough money I can probably find it in myself to have penetrative sex with a woman, while experiencing no enjoyment from it. Does that make me bi? Of course in Cawthorn's case the (hypothetical) sex happens not due to money but convenience/friendship but the point stands.
 

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And there are plenty of men who have an exclusive preference for females, but who also find gratification and enjoyment in knowing that they also give pleasure to males and arouse them. They enjoy teasing the fellows attracted to them . . . but I don't think they generally perceive their enjoyment as specifically sexual.
I can see Madison getting gratification from performing oral or using his hands with a woman, but what does he get out of being with a guy if he isn't at least bi.
 

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I can see Madison getting gratification from performing oral or using his hands with a woman, but what does he get out of being with a guy if he isn't at least bi.
Gratitude.

(I mean that mostly as a joke – but honestly in an extremely close friendship/relationship like he has with Stephen, seeing him profoundly happy might be a pleasure all in itself. He knows he can give his cousin the one thing Stephen wants most of all, and after all Stephen has done for him, maybe that’s a gift he can genuinely enjoy giving).
 

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No. When I said "They're" I meant Madison and his cousin. I should have said "They Are both from NC" .

Can you believe in this day and age that law is still valid and they will nt change it. I wonder why? Any clues?
Obviously it was a joke that we were both making. I assume such laws are still on the books in many states, it’s just that no one acts upon or enforces them because times have changed and there’s no real impetus to have to go through the legislative process of expunging them.

I suppose if I had a kid with a vestigial tail I’d probably go ahead and have the damn thing removed because that’s not how god created us, but perhaps I’m alone in that.
 
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You start by finding the common ancestor:

Share parent -> siblings
Share grandparent -> first cousin
Share great-grandparent -> second cousin
Share great-great-grandparent -> third cousin

And then, the "removed" business is how many generations separate the two cousins who have the common ((great(-great)-)grand)partent.

So, for example, I and the grandson of my second cousin are second-cousins-twice-removed.

Where it really gets confusing is when there are double-cousins . . . sharing TWO ancestors.

I get the last thing you said. My paternal grandparents were first cousins. My family tree is short a few branches.
 

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Gratitude.

(I mean that mostly as a joke – but honestly in an extremely close friendship/relationship like he has with Stephen, seeing him profoundly happy might be a pleasure all in itself. He knows he can give his cousin the one thing Stephen wants most of all, and after all Stephen has done for him, maybe that’s a gift he can genuinely enjoy giving).
What? Madison Cawthorn doesn’t seem to have one bone of gratitude in his body. (Not from the waist up, anyway.)
 

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Gratitude.

(I mean that mostly as a joke – but honestly in an extremely close friendship/relationship like he has with Stephen, seeing him profoundly happy might be a pleasure all in itself. He knows he can give his cousin the one thing Stephen wants most of all, and after all Stephen has done for him, maybe that’s a gift he can genuinely enjoy giving).
Madison seems way to narcissistic to ever feel gratitude. I get what you're saying for many people, but I don't think Madison has that in him. I mean he threw his friend under the bus for years saying he left him to die in the car accident and his parents had to set the record straight and tell the press that Madison wasn't telling the truth.
 
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Madison seems way to narcissistic to ever feel gratitude. I get what you're saying for many people, but I don't think Madison has that in him. I mean he threw his friend under the bus for years saying he left him to die in the car accident and his parents had to set the record straight and tell the press that Madison wasn't telling the truth.
Tbf his friend did cause that same car accident that left Madison paraplegic for life, so I can sort of understand him not being massively grateful in that case…
 
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Tbf his friend did cause that same car accident that left Madison paraplegic for life, so I can sort of understand him not being massively grateful in that case…
Yeah, but to be fair, I’m pretty sure everyone involved considers it an accident. And you have to move on from accidents.
 
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Yeah, but to be fair, I’m pretty sure everyone involved considers it an accident. And you have to move on from accidents.
I don’t think many people ever fully move on from an incident which leaves them paralysed, regardless of the cause. You can’t help but always be thinking of what you’ve lost.

Anyway, on the gratitude side, while Madison is generally a bit of a dick, I think he does show genuine gratitude to Stephen pretty consistently. Even just looking through Stephen’s Insta, pretty much on every post for several years since Stephen has been helping him, Madison is posting comments complementing him, saying what a great guy he is, or commenting on how good/cute he looks.
 
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Tbf his friend did cause that same car accident that left Madison paraplegic for life, so I can sort of understand him not being massively grateful in that case…
Madison was not sitting in a safe position when the crash happened, which is one of the reasons his injuries were so severe. He was partially un-belted with his feet on the dash.
 
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Madison was not sitting in a safe position when the crash happened, which is one of the reasons his injuries were so severe. He was partially un-belted with his feet on the dash.
What an idiot for sitting like that, honestly. Everyone bloody knows you only sit like that when the car is parked, plus it’s really uncomfortable for your back (this is a serious post, stay safe in the roads)
 

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Tbf his friend did cause that same car accident that left Madison paraplegic for life, so I can sort of understand him not being massively grateful in that case…
Gratitude and lying on someone to gain more sympathy is two very different things. Madison is a pathological liar and Predator. He has a history before the accident of recless driving and preying on girls. I'm sure he egged his friend on in that car and was partly responsible for that accident. Madison is not a victim.
 
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