Mainstreamed consumerism was soon followed by mainstream homosexuality

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  1. B_Gravedancer

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    Because in post-industrial societies, people seek instant gratification, superstimulus, and demand any moral code to be modified so that what they think feels good is OK.

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    instant gratification is absolutely a symptom of our society.
     
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    Did you even read my post :rolleyes:
     
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    what examples of "post-industrial" societies might you be able to name?

    how many have attained that status?
     
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    The entire western world...
     
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    So homosexuality is anti-moral?
     
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    Uh, is it in secret code?
     
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    We are a sensate society, according to sorokin. A society that is obsessed with the physical, the immediate, the temporal, the sensual (As opposed to the ideal, the spiritual, the transcendent, the embodied). This is no more obvious than in the artistic expressions that come out of our culture as well as our collective moral consciousness.There is little room for morality in this vision of life, at least a morality that is grounded in a transcendent source. For it disembodies virtue from the physical. It trivializes the body (all bodies, i.e. humanity, nature, art, etc.) and makes it a means to pleasure, a commodity, and a target of the will. This in itself destroys morality. For without essence, reality (and therefore morality) become the victims of perpetual violence as they are made and remade in the image of the human will. No doubt main-stream homosexuality is an expression (or celebration) of this world-view. It subverts nature, denies essence, disembodies morality, and embraces a solopsistic view of reality that revels in nihilism. It appears that Nietzche and foucault rule the West from their graves.
     
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    Homosexuality isn't mainstream?

    Wasn't Will & Grace on primetime tv for a few years?
     
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    and the post-industrial economy relates how?

     
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    in a post industrial society, more production is geared towards luxury, leisure and convenience.
     
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    Another Newbie flinging digs at us old Homies.

    Discuss.
     
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    Sorry if i wasnt clear Nick444.
    It has been argued that our post-industrial, consumeristic economy has led our society to value the sensate, rather than the idealistic or ideological (pitirim sorokin).
     
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    Homosexuality existed even before the concept of money. It existed in nature with all species of animal and has been proven using a little thing called science. Just like other minorities and women beforehand, there wouldn't be a need to adjust "moral codes" for another social class of people if the ones who made them for their own social and political agendas didn't try to outcast or deny them in the first place. And besides, with the economy in such a decline the nation SHOULD consider things like legalizing same sex marriage and marijuana. Why? Not just because of the need to adjust moral standards because, let's face it, most people who scream the loudest about morals rarely ever practice good ones themselves. But because of the money that can be generated on such things. AND, it's not as if we would be the only country to have done such a thing. We're supposed to be the ideal society that every other country aspires to be, yet we have an army of bible-thumping religious freaks all up in arms because Adam & Steve kissed each other on a street corner.

    Unless you're suggesting that a gay or lesbian doesn't deserve to have the same rights as yourself, just why ARE you making such a ridiculous comment?
     
  16. marleyisalegend

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    Why is this being tied to homosexuality? If you hate gays, just say so, don't go creating these cryptic ass threads that don't make a thimble-worth of sense.
     
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    Post-industrial just happens to be the time when western society was getting a real handle on removing religious influence from government.

    And alleged “moral” codes? Which ones are you talking about, Christians repressing women, children & minorities? Fuck the Christians and their alleged god.
     
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    Getting a real handle on removing religious influence from government? HA! Religious has had government by the balls for decades now and that isn't going to change any time soon.
     
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    What grade are you in?
     
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    ^His spelling is pretty good so I'd say third or fourth.
     
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