My final thoughts.... IDK
Males bash females and vice versa.... thats bad.
However, I certainly don't feel like my sex is being bashed. I don't think I've been bashed (well at least not to my face). I really don't know what most women think about men anyway. Do they really think we're all dogs? that we just want sex? that we're stupid?
Here what I think should be done. Each woman is a test. Taking a test unprepared is will cause you to fail. So, the woman should teach how to pass the test. Don't let us just guess or pick "C" all the way through. Tell us what can we do to get you, to make you happy, to turn you on, to make you feel good.
Communication is all we need.
I don't think male bashing happens all that much. Ok, maybe just after a woman has suffered a breakup :biggrin1:, but I really haven't encountered anyone really bashing men. However, bashing women, that I've encountered so many times I can't keep count.
That's just astonishing given it was written in 1994. Time should be embarrassed for that article.
I think that's what feminism is turning into. With each generation the old school feminists and true misandrists like Germaine Greer fall more to the wayside as men and women come to see themselves as simply different sides of the same coin. I do tend to believe women are more conscious of men's needs as men are becoming more aware of women's needs. I don't mean that just sexually either. Women now graduate college more than men do, they do better at all levels of education in general, and they're rising through the ranks of business faster. If women had pay equality, they'd be the primary income producers in most American households. They work in nearly every profession and I don't think anybody my age or younger bats an eye.
I think women's studies is a worthwhile field as are any studies that focus on traditionally disenfranchised people. History doesn't need war to be written in the interest of the victor. It's important to learn what we may have missed and multiple perspectives are good for any field of study.
Every teacher and textbook writer has an agenda. What you do with the knowledge and how you present it is what matters.
I'm not familiar with Germaine Greer's writing so I can't really say whether she was bashing men. There has been a very small (emphasis on the words VERY SMALL) subset of feminism that hates men (Andrea Dworkin, etc.), but I actually consider that branch to not be true feminists. They believe that biology is destiny, although on one hand they'll say they don't - but then they come back with the same old stereotypes that the anti-feminists use! Sheesh! Plus this subset is generally anti-sex, and often reminds me of the religious right (which is notorious for being anti-woman).
I also agree that women's studies are valid as are any studies that focus on traditionally disenfranchised people.
Feminism is gender equalism.
WELL PUT!!! :smile: At least my type of feminism is gender equalism. (And I think that's true for most feminists, regardless of what people like Rush Limbaugh would tell you - well, he's very obviously anti-woman, or really, anti- anyone who isn't a rich, Christian, straight white man.
) My experience is that the people who say that feminists hate men tend to have views of women that would cause reasonable feminists (not the Andrea Dworkin, etc. types but MOST of us) to hate them for being sexist assholes (and I've heard the "Feminists hate men" line from WOMEN too, so it isn't a man thing - geez!)
