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I belonged to a rugby club, and there seemed to be quite a few 'hangers on" around the locker rooms. The first aid/medic guy, the guy who applied strapping tape, the water runners, coach, club president & vice president. When it was time for showers most of the 'officials" left, but still you wonder why do many were needed.
 

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You just took the words out of my mouth. While pedophilia is a form of sexual perversion, society's reaction upon hearing the the victim's abuse only reinforces the bad feelings in the victim by 1000%.

I'm not sure that in North America there can be a healthy, adult-like discussion on pedophilia, or human sexuality in general. We are not that civilized. Yet we have no problem handling all the pornography all around us on cyberspace, tv, media and in magazines. Another contradiction that merits total disrespect.

Why don't we ban locker under 18's from locker rooms, as well as keep all men away from children - even their own. Maybe then we'll come out of this pedophilia hysteria.


The pedophillia hysteria in America is really not that surprising since most boomer parents were shown videos like this when they were in school back in the 1960s and 70s. Boys Beware: Homosexual Awareness - YouTube

These are the attitudes towards homosexuality that any American over 40 grew up with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AXAOT_swIE&feature=related
 
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I disagree with some of your points. I am a nudist and visit nude beaches where there are nudist families. I have chatted with couples who have young children nude on the beach, in the water. Adults seeing children nude is not the issue. I would emphasize touching being 100% inappropriate...not seeing.

Totally agree with this post!!
 

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I think it's important you stress *sexually* attracted. As a single guy in my early 40s I don't expect that I'll ever become a father (not that I'm ruling it out I think just the odds are now against me) sometimes I see a father/son together showering in the locker room, or playing basketball on the court, etc. and I have attraction- social attraction- but it's based upon the joy I feel by recognizing how lucky the boy is to have a strong father role model -and a bit of selfish longing for what I won't have in my life--- to see it out in public appropriately modeled to others is awesome.

Sometimes I'm attracted to the beauty of youth - teenagers of both sexes- WHO ISN'T??? but hey folks that doesn't mean I'm a pedo. That means I recognize beauty, charm, intelligence... Acting puts fire under intent- and I hope people realize that passing thoughts don't mean you're wierd- it's actions and behavior that dictate whether you are inappropriate in any situation. At that point, the law is actually very freeing (remembering 'jailbait') because it provides a great envelope of protection- keeping you steered well away from danger. Part of being mature is learning to be responsible for your passing baser impulses, and showing self control and restraint. Otherwise, why not just grab a club and go out and find a mate to drag home by his/her hair like the caveman days? :)

Again I think the sad part is that it's nurture that helps to inform proper guidance and socialization, and helps keep young boys and girls out of trouble. Societal influences, pop culture and the internet all conspire to make it extremely difficult to keep a nuclear family together, and keep a young dude from feeling isolated, misunderstood, and alone. As men it's all of our jobs to watch out for the little dudes in danger, and set a great example for the next generation to follow.
 
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well said mplsingleguy.

I think it's important you stress *sexually* attracted. As a single guy in my early 40s I don't expect that I'll ever become a father (not that I'm ruling it out I think just the odds are now against me) sometimes I see a father/son together showering in the locker room, or playing basketball on the court, etc. and I have attraction- social attraction- but it's based upon the joy I feel by recognizing how lucky the boy is to have a strong father role model -and a bit of selfish longing for what I won't have in my life--- to see it out in public appropriately modeled to others is awesome.

Sometimes I'm attracted to the beauty of youth - teenagers of both sexes- WHO ISN'T??? but hey folks that doesn't mean I'm a pedo. That means I recognize beauty, charm, intelligence... Acting puts fire under intent- and I hope people realize that passing thoughts don't mean you're wierd- it's actions and behavior that dictate whether you are inappropriate in any situation. At that point, the law is actually very freeing (remembering 'jailbait') because it provides a great envelope of protection- keeping you steered well away from danger. Part of being mature is learning to be responsible for your passing baser impulses, and showing self control and restraint. Otherwise, why not just grab a club and go out and find a mate to drag home by his/her hair like the caveman days? :)

Again I think the sad part is that it's nurture that helps to inform proper guidance and socialization, and helps keep young boys and girls out of trouble. Societal influences, pop culture and the internet all conspire to make it extremely difficult to keep a nuclear family together, and keep a young dude from feeling isolated, misunderstood, and alone. As men it's all of our jobs to watch out for the little dudes in danger, and set a great example for the next generation to follow.
 

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Again, this hysteria about paedophilia misses the point. I was abused by the husband of my mother's sister from the ages of 6-13, because of the total trust given to him. Studies show that in the region of 90% of abuse cases are a close family member.

There is this stupid belief that we don't talk about sex with prepubescent kids - well that's when I needed it. I didn't need curtains in the showers, I needed a frank discussion at the age of 6 about what was and wasn't appropriate when people did it to me. This is what is going to stop abuse, not shower curtains.

Keeping under-18s out of the showers really is not the issue, and I think is detrimental. The real answer is adverts on the cartoon network and nick-teens to reach the kids whose parents won't talk to them since they feel that they are too young to understand that when an adult sucks their 6 year old penis, then this is a problem.

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Well said. People wonder why do people come forward oftentimes as adults? Its because its usually around this time when you fully understand just how inappropriate the actions were against you. Many children are not taught what is appropriate and what is not, and basically go on trust.There is also the issue of adults not being able to fully define what is considered and what is not considered to be child sexual abuse.I think it is important that we have these types of discussions. Sweeping it under the rug only makes it worse.