Male Menopause

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  1. D_Prudence_Admonition_Drightits

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    I am not sure if this has been already posted, I did not see it in the search engine, but I wanted to share the information.

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    While not as severe as female menopause, the male version is lengthier, usually lasting 15 to 20 years. About 40% of men in their 40s, 50s and 60s experience some degree of lethargy, depression, increased irritability, mood swings, and difficulty in attaining and sustaining erections that characterize andropause.

    Now if you think you or someone you love may be going this, I am posting a website that gives you signs and symptoms.
    Here are just a few things to look for:


    Typical symptoms
    • Fatigue, loss of a sense of well being -- 82%
    • Joint aches and stiffness of hands -- 60%
    • Hot flashes, sleep disturbances -- 50%
    • Depression -- 70%
    • Irritability and anger -- 60%
    • Reduced libido -- 80%
    • Reduced potency -- 80%
    • Premature aging
    • Weight gain
    • Changes in hair growth and skin quality
    Here is the rest of the article:
    The Analyst - Internet Health Report: Condition: Andropause/Male Menopause

    Knowledge is power. We are all in this thing called life together, we have to support each other.:wink:
     
  2. Phil Ayesho

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    sorry... this is what they used to call "Aging".

    As to irritability, depression and such...
    seeing the grave rushing toward you ever faster, with ever less time ahead than behind...AND boner is not working as well as it used to... AND you realize you never are gonna be a rock/movie/porn/literary/corporate star you dreamed at 30....


    Well... that's bound to get a guy down now and again...
    but nothing on that list is anything but normal for folks getting on in years...


    Nothing like the massive changes that affect women in menopause...


    to me, this is just more of the pharmaceutical industry re-characterizing normality as disease... so they can sell a treatment. Money money money.


    Science is hard to come by... but what's available shows, for example, that people who get treatment for depression have the exact same recovery rate as those who get no treatment at all.


    As to reduced libido...
    Aristotle was asked how he felt about getting older... the loss of libido and all... his reply...
    "thank the gods, its like finally being able to get off the back of a wild horse."
     
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    will reach 40 in 2 years ahead, so i'm getting off the back of a wild horse soon?
     
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    Male Menopause




    Women may not be the only ones who suffer the effects of changing hormones. Some doctors are noticing that their male patients are reporting some of the same symptoms that women experience in perimenopause and menopause.

    The medical community is currently debating whether or not men really do go through a well-defined menopause. Doctors have reported that male patients receiving hormone replacement therapy (testosterone) have reported relief of some of the symptoms associated with so-called male menopause.
    What Is Male Menopause?

    Since men do not go through a well-defined period referred to as menopause, some physicians refer to this problem as androgen (testosterone) decline in the aging male. Men do experience a decline in the production of the male hormone testosterone with aging, but this also occurs with some disease states such as diabetes. Along with the decline in testosterone, some men experience symptoms such as fatigue, weakness, depression, and sexual problems. The relationship of these symptoms to the decreased testosterone levels is still controversial.

    Unlike menopause in women which represents a well-defined period in which hormone production stops completely, male hormone (testosterone) decline is a slower process. The testes, unlike the ovary, does not run out of the substance it needs to make testosterone. A healthy male may be able to make sperm well into his eighties or longer.

    However, as a result of disease, subtle changes in the function of the testis may occur as early as 45 to 50 years of age, and more dramatically after the age of 70 in some men.
    How Is Male Menopause Diagnosed?

    To make the diagnosis, the doctor will perform a physical exam and ask about symptoms. He or she may order other diagnostic tests to rule out any medical problems that may be contributing to the condition. The doctor will then order a series of blood tests which may include several hormone levels, including a blood testosterone level.
    Can Male Menopause Be Treated?

    If testosterone levels are low, testosterone replacement therapy may help relieve such symptoms as loss of interest in sex (decreased libido), depression and fatigue. But, as with hormone replacement therapy in women, testosterone replacement therapy does have some potential risks and side effects. Replacing testosterone may worsen prostate cancer, for example.

    If you or a loved one is considering androgen replacement therapy, talk to a doctor to learn more. Your doctor may also recommend certain lifestyle changes, such as a new diet or exercise program, or other medications, such as an antidepressant, to help with some of the symptoms of male menopause.

    Edited by Milton M. Lakin, M.D., Cleveland Clinic Glickman Urological Institute, January 2006
     
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    Bang on.

    Actually, I am pretty sure that that was Sophocles, who lived to the age of 90. Socrates quotes it in one of Plato's dialogues (The Republic, I think).
     
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    you are probably right...
     
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    I don't care what the medical establishment says about male menopause...

    This is the same crew that, up until the late 80s defined homosexuality as a disorder... the same crew that originally determined autism to be caused by cold and indifferent mothers.
    The same group that believes that repressed memories cause adult mental illness. ( despite ZERO evidence )

    The same groups that has 30% of american children on RITALIN!? because being bored in school is now a Disease?


    You can tell someone is selling you something the minute they ask for your money.
     
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    I'll be 49 this year and I can definitely tell a huge difference in my libido, it doesn't "drive" me anymore. I still like sex, but it's different now....like more of a closeness with someone rather than performance. Used to must have it at least 3 times a week when I was younger, now its more like once every two weeks thereabout. It is different when your older.
     
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    No such thing as Male Menopause; You are hot or not, You like to fuck or you will be fucked...it's very simple, lol
     
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    You have about 6-10 years before you'll begin to understand exactly what this thread is all about, Superman.

    The only thing I've noticed that's not included in the list above is a rather drastic decline in my eyesight and hearing.

    I shudder to think what 60 would fel like (presuming I ever get there).
     
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    I'm going through this right now too - I can't for the life of me remember the last time I had a period.
     
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    :chairfall: :spankme:

    Now that you bring up the subject, why do men get so moody every month? All bitchy, crabby, complaining, whine, pout.

    I see my light bulb coming on....new thread......

    DO MEN SUFFER FROM THEIR OWN PMS

    Let me go research and I will be back with a thread!!!!
     
  13. horneyoldguy

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    Treatment with Testosterone
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    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Many men suffer needlessly because their testosterone is never checked or the wrong test is ordered. Men as young as 25 to 30 years in age are presenting with low levels of testosterone, which was not the case 10 or 20 years ago. This is possibly a result of environmental toxins, plastics, pesticides, pollutants and/or xenoestrogens in the environment. A large percentage of men who have been told their testosterone is fine actually have low testosterone. Often the total amount of testosterone is read as adequate, but the amount of usable testosterone is low. Men with low testosterone may have subtle to profound symptoms, ranging form poor motivation, anxiety, weight gain, and loss sense of well being to profound depression, and loss of sex drive. Men with low testosterone cannot only enjoy an improved quality of life with testosterone supplementation, but it will also provide a significant decreased risk for heart disease, cancer, diabetes and death. [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Low testosterone in men can result in: [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]1. Fatigue, tiredness or loss of energy[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]2. Depression, low or negative mood[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]3. Irritability, anger or bad temper[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]4. Anxiety or nervousness[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]5. Loss of memory or concentration[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]6. Relationship problem with partner [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]7. Loss of sex drive or libido[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]8. Erection problems during sex[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]9. Loss of morning erections [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]10. Decreased intensity of orgasms[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]11. Backache, joint pains or stiffness[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]12. Heavy drinking, past or present[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]13. Loss of fitness[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]14. Feeling over-stressed[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]15. Loss of drive and competitive edge[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]16. Stiffness and pain in muscles and joints[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]17. Falling level of fitness[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]18. Decreased effectiveness of workouts[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Testosterone replacement and optimization can result in: [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]1. Decreased aging of heart and circulation[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]2. Decreased risk of heart attacks and strokes[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]3. Decreased risk of diabetes[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]4. Decreased body Fat[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]5. Increased lean muscle[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]6. Increased blood flow to brain[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]7. Decreased brain aging[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]8. Improved memory and intelligence[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]9. Decreased risk of dementia and Alzheimer's[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]10. Increased sense of well being [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]11. Improved Sexual function[/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]12. Decreased Osteoporosis [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]13. Decreased risk of prostate cancer[/FONT]
     

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    Low testosterone linked to long-term risk of death in relatively healthy adult men
    ENDO 2007: The Endocrine Society Research Summaries Book June 5, 2007


    This study is another major report linking deficiency of testosterone in relatively healthy men with increased death from all causes, over time. “We have followed these men for an average of 18 years and our study strongly suggests that the association between testosterone levels and death is not simply due to some acute illness," said Gail Laughlin, Ph.D., assistant professor and study author.
    In the study, Laughlin and co-workers looked at death, no matter the cause, in nearly 800 men, ages 50 to 91 years, who were living in California since 1970. At the beginning of the 1980s, almost one-third of these men had suboptimal blood testosterone levels for men their age.
    The group with low testosterone levels had a 33 percent greater risk of death during the next 18 years than the men with higher testosterone. This difference was not explained by smoking, drinking, physical activity level or pre-existing diseases (such as diabetes or heart disease). Men with low testosterone were more likely to have elevated markers of inflammation, called inflammatory cytokines, which contribute to many diseases. Men with low testosterone were also shown to be three times more likely to have a waist measurement more than 40 inches, low HDL (good) cholesterol, high triglycerides (levels of fat in the blood), high blood pressure or high blood glucose (blood sugar).
    This study is further confirmation of previous studies that demonstrate an increased risk of morbidity and mortality with low or low normal testosterone:
    • In a study of male veterans, low serum testosterone levels were shown to increase the risk of death in the next few years by 88%, according to a report in the Archives of Internal Medicine.
    • In an earlier study, Dr. Molly M. Shores and colleagues from the University of Washington in Seattle and showed an increase in 6-month mortality among men with low testosterone levels.
    • The another study published in a 2006 edition of the Archives of Internal Medicine involved 858 male veterans who were at least 40 years of age, prostate cancer-free, and had repeated testosterone levels taken between 1994 and 1999 and were followed for an average of 4.3 years. It was found that men with low or low normal testoerone had a 23-75% increased risk of dying.
     
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    It's all individual, lol, and depends of life attitude as well. I know some who are without any of those symptoms in their 70s. And with rather active sexual life, also... But nowdays, everything has to be explained through gender issue, so man should also have menopause...
     
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    You are right. I would say "it gets worse" but I think your construct is more accurate: it gets "different" as in "progressively less important." I've heard it likened to being allowed to get down off the horse and relax. For me, the change between 40 and 50 was light years. Constant acceleration from early teens through late 40s and then, suddenly, in what seems like no time...yawn.

    Lesson for younger dudes...squirt one every chance you get. No matter how hot & studly you are (or think you are) now, it WILL pass, or you'll be a corpse. So enjoy whatever you do whenever you can.
     
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