Manchester next

[Chrysippus]

you just dismissed the entire Tübingen school, which held that Paul was utterly opposed to the disciples

Oh wow, the Tübingen school on a cock site: res-erectus est!

 

[TexanStar]

'whoever breaks the smallest of the commandments wont enter the Kingdom of Heaven' .

Where does it say this, dude?

The bible is printed all over the internet. Please directly quote and source a version of the bible which reads "won't enter the Kingdom of heaven" in that bible verse. Just quote the text and let me know which bible version reads "won't enter the Kingdom of Heaven".

 

[798686]

Where does it say this, dude?

The bible is printed all over the internet. Please directly quote and source a version of the bible which reads "won't enter the Kingdom of heaven".

Hmm - ok, actual wording is 'called least in' - you got me there.

King James Version
'Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.'

However - it still reinforces my original point that he was backing up the Commandments, not abolishing them. Your turn.

 

[Drifterwood]

Please tell me you're trolling.

Really. I guess this is as good as an acknowledgement that you have no education nor interest in history.

But to be sure, what is the actual point you are contesting?

Can you manage that?

 

[marinera]

What if one practices but doesn't teach? And what about this:
For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.…

Now I am more righteous than Pharisees, not sure about scribes though.

 

[deleted37010]

you are both correct

What if one practices but doesn't teach? And what about this:
For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.…

Now I am more righteous than Pharisees, not sure about scribes though.

scribes feel pretty righteous to me...

 

[malakos]

Really. I guess this is as good as an acknowledgement that you have no education nor interest in history.

But to be sure, what is the actual point you are contesting?

Can you manage that?

For starters, I suspect you are confusing the concepts of "gospels" and the canon, so could you provide a definition of these two terms from which I can answer your questions?

 

[TexanStar]

Hmm - ok, actual wording is 'called least in' - you got me there.

King James Version
'Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.'

However - it still reinforces my original point that he was backing up the Commandments, not abolishing them. Your turn.

I said the contract is abolished, and it is. It's not that Jesus doesn't want people to respect and follow the ten commandments, he clearly does. But they're not directly, in and of themselves, the path to salvation. The wording of the contract is different now.

 

[798686]

For starters, I suspect you are confusing the concepts of "gospels" and the canon, so could you provide a definition of these two terms from which I can answer your questions?

He's an incurable heretic, and is going straight to hell, via Merthyr Tydfil.

 

[798686]

I said the contract is abolished, and it is. It's not that Jesus doesn't want people to respect and follow the ten commandments, he clearly does. But they're not directly, in and of themselves, the path to salvation. The wording of the contract is different now.

That's fine. What are we arguing about, exactly?

 

[798686]

What if one practices but doesn't teach? And what about this:
For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.…

Now I am more righteous than Pharisees, not sure about scribes though.

Well, I acknowledge that I'm an absolute sinner - so that's half the battle already, hehehe.

 

[marinera]

That's fine. What are we arguing about, exactly?

And most important: why are the clauses written in those damn small characters?

 

[798686]

And most important: why are the clauses written in those damn small characters?

Terms and conditions apply.

 

[Drifterwood]

I am talking about the gospels that make up the new testament.

But tbh, you can fuck all this shit, I want no part in an ignorant discussion that has flamed an OP that actually matters to me, that concerns the callous murder of kids.

Please don't bother to respond. I'm out.

 

[Chrysippus]

What are we arguing about, exactly?

Damned fine question, Joll: it sure ain't Manchester!

 

[798686]

Damned fine question, Joll: it sure ain't Manchester!

Weirdly enough, about a year ago, my bro was trying to teach his 3 year old daughter about God (he's a bit zealoty) - with comedic results.

Niece: 'Where Dod?'
Bro: 'He's in heaven'
Niece: 'Heeheehee, noooo. He in Manchester!'

Don't ask.

 

[TexanStar]

Damned fine question, Joll: it sure ain't Manchester!

Yeah, but as derails go, it was a more comfortable discussion to have than arguing with people who are basically implying that Islam as a whole is a religion of terrorists.

 

[marinera]

I think we are on topic. Wait and see if a religion war between christians doesn't begin. It will shed light on the subject.

 

[798686]

I think we are on topic. Wait and see if a religion war between christians doesn't begin. It will shed light on the subject.

Heaven forbid!

 

[deleted37010]

Yeah, but as derails go, it was a more comfortable discussion to have than arguing with people who are basically implying that Islam as a whole is a religion of terrorists.

dialectical... agreed